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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed May 11, 2022 5:26 pm

    It's pathetic what Ukraine has subjected itself to

    And for what? When the next US president comes, Trump will punish the Ukrainians for costing him 2020

    So they got banged and abused by the world

    The europeans give token support, and Ukraine is worse than Turkey for them, lot of cheap prostitutes and janitors, never joining the EU, stupid Ukrainians react only now and help Nord Stream 2 get started

    Meanwhile democrats and neocons fight to the last Ukrainian

    These hohols really are the assholes of the world

    Russia is going easy on them, and after 60k dead and gone, these stupid assholes don't wake up that they are a used condom for the west

    How fucking sad for this country of deranged zombies , to be so utterly used and discarded, and willfully do it , to spite a superpower that simply slaps them hoping they wake up

    Imbeciles, just imbeciles

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed May 11, 2022 5:32 pm

    What's even more sad, is even the ANA had the sense to surrender when Americans abandoned them

    And they had American presence for 20 years

    The Ukrainians got nothing, and go to die for what? For some token flags to be hung in western country and 100 euro to be prostitutes?

    It's so sad they are the condom of west

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    Post  diabetus Wed May 11, 2022 6:00 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:
    Isos wrote:Tu-22 launching kh-22 at ground targets.





    This should be Kh-32, as right after launch it climbs upwards. Also wasn't this missile exclusively built to take out the NATO carriers? I didn't know it had land attack capability as well.



    Kh-22 does it too. It can be used vs large ground targets. Azovstal would be a perfect target for it.

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    Post  diabetus Wed May 11, 2022 6:02 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Man what was that missile?

    https://t.me/intelslava/28563

    Shocked

    guided Smerch i believe

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    Post  flamming_python Wed May 11, 2022 6:04 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Broski wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:Man what was that missile?

    https://t.me/intelslava/28563

    Shocked
    Most likely a supersonic missile since we didn't hear anything before the explosion (and neither did they).

    One frame shows the incoming missile, too smeared however to tell.

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    As I read it's an Iskander-M
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    Post  flamming_python Wed May 11, 2022 6:06 pm

    SolidarityWithRussia wrote:I hope one of those youtubers will make a short documentary about the failed Ukrainian attack on Snake Islands. Zelensky's incompetence has drawn my interest now.

    There were even reports of a British major and American Lieutenant-Colonel being involved on the first day. And then the US/UK pressing Zelensky to send more forces over the coming days to retrieve their bodies over the failed assault; only resulting in further catastrophe

    But I'm skeptical. This snake island thing was just the propaganda stunt that the British suggested to Zelensky. They wouldn't be stupid enough to participate in it themselves, neither the Americans. Even the Ukrainian general staff was cold to the plan.

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    Post  mnztr Wed May 11, 2022 6:09 pm

    diabetus wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:
    Isos wrote:Tu-22 launching kh-22 at ground targets.





    This should be Kh-32, as right after launch it climbs upwards. Also wasn't this missile exclusively built to take out the NATO carriers? I didn't know it had land attack capability as well.



    Kh-22 does it too. It can be used vs large ground targets. Azovstal would be a perfect target for it.

    Makes sense to clear out the old stock, I am sure they have lots of them. Use all those KH-22 and 32 up and replace with Tsirkon. TU-22 can probably carry 6 Tsirkon easily.

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    Post  diabetus Wed May 11, 2022 6:19 pm

    mnztr wrote:
    diabetus wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:
    Isos wrote:Tu-22 launching kh-22 at ground targets.





    This should be Kh-32, as right after launch it climbs upwards. Also wasn't this missile exclusively built to take out the NATO carriers? I didn't know it had land attack capability as well.



    Kh-22 does it too. It can be used vs large ground targets. Azovstal would be a perfect target for it.

    Makes sense to clear out the old stock, I am sure they have lots of them. Use all those KH-22 and 32 up and replace with Tsirkon. TU-22 can probably carry 6 Tsirkon easily.


    And no nasty fuel to deal with anymore

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    Post  Kiko Wed May 11, 2022 7:03 pm

    Moscow reacts to the possible accession of Kherson to Russia, 11.05.2022.

    The Kherson regional authorities have announced that they will ask Russian President Vladimir Putin to incorporate their territory into Russia. The Kremlin reacted and said that this is something for the inhabitants of that region to decide.

    "The inhabitants of the Kherson province should be the ones to determine their own future," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said at a press briefing.

    Earlier, the Kherson authorities announced their intention to ask the Russian government for the accession of the province, located in the south of Ukraine.

    Peskov stressed that this issue has to be thoroughly evaluated by jurists.

    "Crucial decisions of this kind must have an absolutely clear legal foundation and legitimate grounds, as in the case of Crimea," he stressed.

    For his part, the deputy head of the military-civil administration of the province, Kiril Stremousov, stated that the authorities of the Kherson province will address the Russian president requesting to incorporate this region into Russia.

    "Kherson is Russia, no people's republic of Kherson will be created on its territory, no referendum will be held. A provision will be issued based on the response to the request that the Administration of the Kherson province will address to the president of Russia, to include it as a region in the Russian Federation," he added to journalists.

    He also noted that the Kherson province plans to come under Russian jurisdiction during the current year.

    The Russian military during the special operation for the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine took under its control the Kherson province (south of the country) and the part adjacent to the Azov Sea of Zaporozhye province. Military-civilian administrations were formed there, broadcasts of Russian television and radio channels began, trade ties with Crimea are restored.

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    Post  Ispan Wed May 11, 2022 7:06 pm

    Quite extensive and detailed report today. Advance is slow but several reports of Ukrainians suffering huge casualties and morale cracking. The report on biolabs is at bottom

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/05/11/noticias-de-la-guerra-11-05-2022/

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    Post  diabetus Wed May 11, 2022 7:13 pm

    Ispan wrote:Quite extensive and detailed report today. Advance is slow but several reports of Ukrainians suffering huge casualties and morale cracking. The report on biolabs is at bottom

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/05/11/noticias-de-la-guerra-11-05-2022/

    "▪The supply of arms and ammunition to the front-line positions has been organized. In the last two days, trains with ammunition and diesel fuel arrived at the Udachnoye station. Unloading was carried out at night."

    I'm surprised that was allowed to happen.
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    Post  flamming_python Wed May 11, 2022 7:14 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:What's even more sad, is even the ANA had the sense to surrender when Americans abandoned them

    And they had American presence for 20 years

    The Ukrainians got nothing, and go to die for what? For some token flags to be hung in western country and 100 euro to be prostitutes?

    It's so sad they are the condom of west

    Go die for the pat on the back from your betters, and for the attention they are lavishing upon you. They might even treat you as well like with those cookies Nuland brought around last time.
    You know the ones you served for free in Iraq, Afghanistan, the ones who bought up all your privatized industries and where your oligarchs all own their homes and yachts and send their young to be educated.. oh whoops, nevermind talking about that last part!

    Forget it. Remember instead - Ataboy Ukraine, go get those russkies and show them who's boss!

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Wed May 11, 2022 7:26 pm

    nomadski wrote:
    It is normal , that Russia helps Russian speakers in Ukraine , against ethnic cleansing . It is also normal for non - Nazi Ukrainians , to " defend " their homeland against  this " invasion " . It is also normal for the " West " , to oppose Russian " expansion " . It is normal within the historical perspective of human experience , given more mundane reasons of mutual social conflict , over- population and lack of resources etc . It happened before , and happens now , and will happen again . This is all natural and expected . What is not normal , is the existence of Nazism in Ukraine , that led to this debacle . After the catastrophe of WWII and genocide in concentration camps !


    Prolonged wars are bad and should be avoided . They are bad for the economy , and for morale . A war lasting any longer than a few months or at maximum a year , should be avoided . How much is this war costing , per day ? Per month ? When morale fails , it is then , that bullets reach the bone ! It is then , that irrespective of material superiority , the war is lost . But the war is not lost , as long as morale is high , irrespective of material inferiority .

    What use are reserves and not deploying conscripts , when enemy reaches our lands ? When they attack our resources ? Therefore commit full forces and win in good time , rather than later . Extend the offensive , into enemy territory , if necessary , from the same columns of strong points . Keeping our forces concentrated and collected in advancing column , allows for local concentration , for destruction of forces . Prioritise one target , at a time . Win a series of small battles , along a narrow front , than winning simultaneously many battles , along a wide front .




    What are you talking about? The West has nothing to do within Russia's sphere of influence and put its national security at risk.
    It is a criminal act.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Wed May 11, 2022 7:54 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:It's pathetic what Ukraine has subjected itself to

    And for what? When the next US president comes, Trump will punish the Ukrainians for costing him 2020

    So they got banged and abused by the world

    The europeans give token support, and Ukraine is worse than Turkey for them, lot of cheap prostitutes and janitors, never joining the EU, stupid Ukrainians react only now and help Nord Stream 2 get started

    Meanwhile democrats and neocons fight to the last Ukrainian

    These hohols really are the assholes of the world

    Russia is going easy on them, and after 60k dead and gone, these stupid assholes don't wake up that they are a used condom for the west

    How fucking sad for this country of deranged zombies , to be so utterly used and discarded, and willfully do it , to spite a superpower that simply slaps them hoping they wake up

    Imbeciles, just imbeciles

    Because it's not just about Ukraine. There is something broader and I said it in the previous message: Russia is one of the few countries in the world that has not joined the globalist agenda. Let's be honest and clear: when we talk about this agenda, we are talking about the program of an elite, basically billionaires and Jewish intellectuals.
    I am convinced that the problem continues to be the Jews, as they have always been. Today USA is a country under the Zionist lobby. It is their main colony. They want to destroy traditional values, the family, the birth rate, women, youth, etc. to strengthen their domination. The West doesn't exist anymore, it's a piece of shit controlled by a Jewish elite. The problem is that they want to spread to other civilizations that oppose this program (Russia, India, China, parts of Latin America, Africa)

    But I understand that the war against Nazism is something very sensitive and part of the Russian heroic history. Putin has always been careful to get along with Israel and not offend anyone, but deep down we know what a problem these people represent. I thought Lavrov's lucidity in speaking for the first time about the Jewish issue was great.

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    Post  Regular Wed May 11, 2022 8:04 pm

    Siverskyi Donets river crossing.

    Posted by Ukrainian 17th Tank Brigade recon and claim it was from recent fighting.

    Like fish in a barrel

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    Yet, doesn't look like recent greenery...

    Thoughts?

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    Post  diabetus Wed May 11, 2022 8:09 pm

    Regular wrote:Siverskyi Donets river crossing.

    Posted by Ukrainian 17th Tank Brigade recon and claim it was from recent fighting.

    Like fish in a barrel

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    Yet, doesn't look like recent greenery...

    Thoughts?

    Those are destroyed Russian vehicles?
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    Post  0nillie0 Wed May 11, 2022 8:19 pm

    Some of the wrecks look like BMP-2, MT-LB & various T-72B variants. What is the Ukranian narrative about this?

    *edit*

    If it looks like a botched river crossing, it probably IS a botched river crossing.


    It would be interesting to see if this is the only one they where able to stop, or if there are more. I am sure the Russians would not put all their money on a single crossing attempt.
    If the Russians did establish a bridgehead, then it does not bode well for the remaining Ukranian forces, even if they did a good job repelling this specific crossing.


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed May 11, 2022 8:35 pm

    Would not be the first time the Ukrainians post their own destroyed vehicles and pass it off as Russian

    Example A1- Mi8 on snake island

    Example A2 - T64 burnt hulls in Chernigov and Sumy being passed off as T72

    Example A3 - Ukrainians dressed in Russian uniforms giving fake interviews

    Example A4 - trainer jets painted blue claimed to be su34


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    Post  sepheronx Wed May 11, 2022 8:35 pm

    russia did showcase a few pontoon bridges Ukraine setup getting smoked by guided missiles.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed May 11, 2022 9:08 pm

    Well one needs to ask where this would be, where are rivers in Ukraine the Russians would need to be crossing in the donbass area?.

    If Ukraine is truly on the defensive as everyone claims, they would not be building bridges.

    So giving right now Russia is the one trying to advance, This would be a fair judge to be russian armor.

    The only place this could be if it was Ukie armor is Khakrov where the Russians are being pushed back.

    end of the day only clueless bootlicker fanboys will defend this lack of deployed manpower, you can still advance slow and bring in big numbers, and having reserve forces allows you to take advantage of exploited enemy positioning.

    But spin all you want the end of the day, this war will go on longer than necessary because of it

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    Post  caveat emptor Wed May 11, 2022 9:18 pm

    Ukrainians are trying to force Severskiy Donets south of Balakleya, where few pontoon bridges were destroyed. It is hard to tell, as both sides use same weapon systems.

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    Post  limb Wed May 11, 2022 9:28 pm

    diabetus wrote:
    Regular wrote:Siverskyi Donets river crossing.

    Posted by Ukrainian 17th Tank Brigade recon and claim it was from recent fighting.

    Like fish in a barrel

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    Yet, doesn't look like recent greenery...

    Thoughts?

    Those are destroyed Russian vehicles?

    Allegedly they're the O grouping of Russian forces. It's unclear though. You can't discern a T-64 from a T-72 from a grainy image from above. We also see mainly BMP-1s which raises some questions.
    We also see BMP-3 hulls which leans towards the vehicles being Russian.

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    Post  Isos Wed May 11, 2022 9:35 pm

    That's weired to have a grouping of vehicles in front of the bridge. Once they cross they get away from there to make space for the others behind.

    It seems a staged scene for propaganda.

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    Post  flamming_python Wed May 11, 2022 9:38 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Well one needs to ask where this would be, where are rivers in Ukraine the Russians would need to be crossing in the donbass area?.

    If Ukraine is truly on the defensive as everyone claims, they would not be building bridges.

    So giving right now Russia is the one trying to advance, This would be a fair judge to be russian armor.

    The only place this could be if it was Ukie armor is Khakrov where the Russians are being pushed back.

    end of the day only clueless bootlicker fanboys will defend this lack of deployed manpower, you can still advance slow and bring in big numbers, and having reserve forces allows you to take advantage of exploited enemy positioning.

    But spin all you want the end of the day, this war will go on longer than necessary because of it


    The Ukrainians have been the ones trying to cross the river at multiple points and building pontoon bridges

    It's Ukrainian armour I'm confident

    As for Russians being pushed back, again I think no more than they were in Kherson a month ago, when they withdrew from the axis of the Ukrainian advance, only to later ambush them with artillery and Su-25s. This time we'll probably see something similar.


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    Post  lyle6 Wed May 11, 2022 9:41 pm

    Russian vehicles make use of prominent grouping markers: those massive Zs, Vs, Os are IFF for their aircraft. Not even the intact vehicles have them.

    Also, if this was a failed Russian crossing then what's stopping the Ukrainians from sending in a recon squad for some photo-ops on their side of the river?

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