Russian special military operation in Ukraine #18

Russian Armed Forces have destroyed 1,188 Ukrainian drones since the beginning of the special operation

Since the beginning of the special operation, Russian forces have destroyed 201 Ukrainian aircraft

MOSCOW, June 12 - RIA Novosti. Since the beginning of the special military operation, Russian troops have destroyed 201 Ukrainian aircraft, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov said on Sunday.
"In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 201 aircraft, 130 helicopters, 1,188 unmanned aerial vehicles, 338 anti-aircraft missile systems, 3,514 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 508 multiple rocket launchers, 1,870 field artillery pieces and mortars, as well as 3,570 units of special military vehicles," he said.

https://ria.ru/20220612/minoborony-1794868168.html

ucmvulcan wrote:

Sujoy wrote:Ukrainian forces using French-supplied Caesar howitzers to target Russian forces

How long before DPR and LPR get Frog supplied artillery?

If u mean Frog-7 forget it it's very old out of service and very inaccurate. Tochka and smerch is good enough for them. Or get Belarus to send them Polonez.

Sa-13 taking out Ukrainian drone

https://www.armyrecognition.com/ukraine_-_russia_conflict_war_2022/russian_soldiers_use_sa-13_air_defense_missile_system_to_shoot_down_ukrainian_furia_drone.html

ucmvulcan wrote:

I am against the death penalty, but I would be all for him doing hard labor for the next 20 to 25 years, ideally in the Donbass where he and his fellow mercs will help clear away the rubble and rebuild the cities and settlements that they helped destroy.  

I disagree
https://t.me/globalthinker/113

Plenty of other pows who aren’t mercenary nazi scum who can clear rubble.

Ukraine’s ambassador to Germany: Kyiv to receive first PzH 2000 howitzers in June

https://defence-blog.com/ukraines-ambassador-to-germany-kyiv-to-receive-first-pzh-2000-howitzers-in-june/


“7 self-propelled howitzers [PzH 2000] that will be handed over to us – we will receive these systems sometime on June 22; and self-propelled anti-aircraft systems, the so-called Gepard,” Andriy Melnyk told the Ukrainian media agency.



Panzer against Russia on 22nd of June. Fucking ukro nazi scum

ucmvulcan wrote:

GunshipDemocracy wrote: Panzer against Russia on 22nd of June. Fucking ukro nazi scum

I think Putin needs to get on television and make it very clear that if Germany gives even one bullet to Ukraine on June 22, that the German people will beg for the treatment they received in April and May 1945

me thinks date was specially mentioned by Orc ambassador to Germany, not necessarily promised by die beleidigte Leberwurst

So what are some theories about the change of tone around Zelensky ?

I don't think they are going to tear him down or replace him just yet. Unless they have someone else that they are really high on. Maybe it is all a distancing act. The Anglo axis just wants to distance itself from the military loss.

When is the next election ?

ucmvulcan wrote:

Regular wrote:

owais.usmani wrote:

https://twitter.com/thesiriusreport/status/1535893478772727809

Something will happen very soon

Western media:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/a-judgment-day-is-coming-for-volodymyr-zelensky

I would actually hate to be him.  The west has an unethical history of martyring someone once they are no longer useful.  The question is, after they decide he should no longer be around what happens? Prison? Putsch and violent death, assassination by a "pro Russian traitor" to facilitate the arms scam.  Sorry, but 55 billion of my tax dollars going to Ukraine with little oversight as to where these weapons end up is a scam.  

Its not your tax dollars, its mostly money stolen from the rest of the world through the dollar denominated trading system

d_taddei2 wrote:Sa-13 taking out Ukrainian drone

https://www.armyrecognition.com/ukraine_-_russia_conflict_war_2022/russian_soldiers_use_sa-13_air_defense_missile_system_to_shoot_down_ukrainian_furia_drone.html

The SAM has to cost at least 10x the price of that rinky dink drone.

Backman wrote:So what are some theories about the change of tone around Zelensky ?

I don't think they are going to tear him down or replace him just yet. Unless they have someone else that they are really high on. Maybe it is all a distancing act. The Anglo axis just wants to distance itself from the military loss.

When is the next election  ?

For 2 weeks now, the west has been distancing themselves from Zelensky, the US have been saying crazy things like we don't know how the 40billion has been spent or where the weapons we sent have gone, or what the Ukrainian military strategy is. Which of course is utter BS. The US knows exactly whats going on, they have known since day one how the battle has been going, providing airborne, satellite and other intelligence, plus "advice".

In other words, the blame game has started in the media.

French artillery geo located shelling Donesk

not sure if this news belongs here of to 22160 project ships

Black Sea ships of project 22160 will be reinforced with an air defense system, taking into account the experience of the special operation

They will install anti-aircraft missile systems "Tor-M2KM"

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14893649

Let's wait for ASW suite and we got ta da a corvette      

https://www.stalkerzone.org/peace-treaty-for-ukraine/
There will be no peace treaty, according to the author. Mood in the Kremlin and the public is against it.[/quote]

[quote]

There will be no peace treaty

The goal and idea of the United States and partners is primitive – to take a pause, prepare Ukraine for a new confrontation, weaken and shake up the situation inside Russia, while maintaining economic pressure. No one is going to lift sanctions and return stolen currency reserves. They sincerely believe that, having stopped military operations, they will be able to discuss exclusion from the lists for years on one item, demanding concessions for each, as it was almost 8 years with the Minsk Agreements.

Thats a good article. there is zero incentive for russia , to negotiate anything with puppets in kiev
under control by NATO , any cease of fire or "peace deal" ,that allows NATO or Europe to keep their control and influence over any city in ukraine , means an open door for the collective altlantic west , to use the "cease of fire" or "peace deal" to rearm ukraine ,provide more weapons , and recruit and infiltrate more soldiers. For Russia government , what they facing in ukraine should be seen as no less that an attempt of NATO for the total destruction and collapse of russia.. The only thing worse that what nato did in ukraine would be a nuclear strike on moscow to decapitate its leadership..
because the attack of the west , was not only military ,but economical too , and biological attack plans for the future too, using the biolabs pentagon build in ukraine..

So anything less , that unconditional surrender of ukraine government and military and demand them give away all their weapons , with the arrest of the neo nazis parties for racist crimes , and the arrest of kiev parliament and zelensky , and the full control of all ukraine , or at least 80% to 90% of it.. Anything less ,that reversing the coup of 2014, and taking full control of vast majority of ukraine ,
will only help nato to restart the war again at a later date and with a better retrained and rearmed military.

what russia should do there is neither take over of land , under russian flag.. but instead the creation of several new nations, with new flag a federation of regions . Ukraine needs to become a full protectorate under full russia military control and protection. and novorrosiya and malorossiya created . the name ukraine needs to be erased from russian and ukraine education books ,in order to block any kind of new euromaidan.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:
not sure if this news belongs here of to 22160 project ships

Black Sea ships of project 22160 will be reinforced with an air defense system, taking into account the experience of the special operation

They will install anti-aircraft missile systems "Tor-M2KM"

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14893649

Let's wait for ASW suite and we got ta da a corvette      

The Chinese are taking a different tack, and going full drone.
https://www.rt.com/news/557028-china-drone-ship-voyage/

I wonder if that's the way of the future or just a gimmick?

Airborne drones have certainly played a roll in Ukraine.
A good way to keep the body count down if you don't have any bodies.

Regular wrote:I am glad that at least Russians be it, socialists, nationalists, and everyone apart from liberals are on the same page. You even see imperialists shaking hands with communists now. I don't think I have ever seen Russians more united, western response backfired.

By the way, check this assessment on Sky News. No wonder West has no clue what is actually going on...  

Would have checked it out



But Sky News doesn't want Russians to know the truth it seems, shucks

Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

High-precision air-based missiles near Udachnoe railway station in Donetsk People's Republic have destroyed a large number of weapons and military equipment delivered to a group of Ukrainian nationalists, including from the USA and European countries.

In addition, temporary foreign mercenary deployment site near Fedorovka, Lugansk People's Republic and 2 batteries of multiple rocket launchers near Progress, Kharkov Region, and Volcheyarovka, Lugansk People's Republic, have been destroyed.

Operational-tactical and army aviation have hit 1 command post, 1 radar station of Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile system near Lisichansk, Luhansk People's Republic, as well as 63 areas of AFU manpower and military equipment concentration.

The attacks have resulted in the elimination of more than 120 nationalists, 2 tanks, 7 field artillery mounts and 11 special vehicles.

Russian air defence means have shot down 8 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Shevchenkovo, Kostromka in Nikolaev Region, Balakleya, Borodoyarskoe in Kharkov Region, Staromikhailovka, Opytnoe in Donetsk People's Republic, Smolyaninovo, Popasnaya, Lisyichansk in Luhansk People's Republic, including 1 Bairaktar TB-2 near Lugansk, overnight.

Missile troops and artillery have hit 247 areas of AFU manpower and military equipment concentration, 13 command posts, 63 firing positions of AFU artillery units, including 7 multiple rocket launchers near Artemovsk, Slavyansk, Soledar and Sol', as well as 1 radio-electronic warfare station near Pokrovskyi in Donetsk People's Republic.

In total, 201 Ukrainian airplanes and 130 helicopters, 1,196 unmanned aerial vehicles, 338 anti-aircraft missile systems, 3,525 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 515 multiple launch rocket systems, 1,933 field artillery and mortars, as well as 3,583 units of special military vehicles were destroyed during the operation.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine #Briefing
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I would actually hate to be him. The west has an unethical history of martyring someone once they are no longer useful. The question is, after they decide he should no longer be around what happens? Prison? Putsch and violent death, assassination by a "pro Russian traitor" to facilitate the arms scam. Sorry, but 55 billion of my tax dollars going to Ukraine with little oversight as to where these weapons end up is a scam.

Obviously has to be novachok or polonium.

I am against the death penalty, but I would be all for him doing hard labor for the next 20 to 25 years, ideally in the Donbass where he and his fellow mercs will help clear away the rubble and rebuild the cities and settlements that they helped destroy.

I am against the death penalty for innocent people but this guy went to a country with the express purpose of overthrowing and subdewing the Ukrainians of the Donbass, which he and his compatriots claimed were Russians invading Ukraine. He has spent the last few years shelling and killing civilians... now he is getting his.

He can avoid the death penalty as soon as he brings all the people he helped kill back to life and undoes the destruction they caused.

Looks like he quit UK military on March, it wasn't some dusty war veteran. I am no conspiracy theorist, but it does look fishy.

Sounds like a bored soldier looking for excitement so he quit his position in the UK army and went the the Ukraine to be a hero and kill some Russians because from what he had heard it was probably like shooting fish in a barrel.

Lots of New Zealanders signed up for a war in Europe in 1914 because it was an adventure... and it will probably be over by the time they get there so they can drink and sleep with sexy european women and visit some places before coming home... reality was of course very different.

Maybe, or he will flee to Florida. I mean, he will be more useful dead to the US than him being alive and all. But if they do kill him off, it may raise too many eyebrows.

Did you have to repost that conversation to make that comment?

My guess though is that he is shot by a "pro-Russian" of some flavor because Ukraine wants to become a one party junta and the west wants to justify giving Ukraine even more guns.

Please take the time to edit your post to remove the large conversation attached to it... and Seph too please...

If u mean Frog-7 forget it it's very old out of service and very inaccurate. Tochka and smerch is good enough for them. Or get Belarus to send them Polonez.

That is what I thought he meant at first, but Caesar is a French system, so Frog in that sense.

Plenty of other pows who aren’t mercenary nazi scum who can clear rubble.

There should not be a shortage...

A semiotic religion, yes, that brought knowledge, order and discipline to a group of scattered pagan peoples. Do you believe that the pagans were innocent and did not murder? Those who defend the pagans remind me of the idiots who defend the indigenous in America. They speak of the cruelty of the Spanish but not of the Aztec beasts that killed and sacrificed innocents.

Not all Russian nobility were Germanic. Was Ivan the Terrible or Alexander Nevsky German? It was a viking nobility mixed with the local nobility of the Slavs.

Please take the time to edit your post to remove the large conversation attached to it...

Its not your tax dollars, its mostly money stolen from the rest of the world through the dollar denominated trading system

Please take the time to edit your post to remove the large conversation attached to it...

The SAM has to cost at least 10x the price of that rinky dink drone.

It is doing what it was designed to do and they likely made millions of those... and they are still making them, so Russian workers get to work and Russian soldiers are protected from enemy systems.

The money they would make selling a single Javelin on the black market would cover the cost of thousands of SA-13s.

I wonder if that's the way of the future or just a gimmick?

The problem is obvious... decent air defence systems can deal with drones and current experience means drone defence is only going to get much better with new jammers and lasers and new short range missiles etc etc as well as gun launched airburst shells...

Drones are useful but you don't want to overcommit.

For China they are probably a great idea because their main enemy is the west which is still air power focussed so their ability to deal with thousands of Chinese drones will be pathetic and expensive.

This thread is going to get shorter over the next hour or so... you will be notified as to where the missing posts are going in good time.

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