Russian special military operation in Ukraine #28

https://t.me/ChDambiev/19901

franco wrote:...Melikov’s wrath was caused by reports of a police car driving around with a loudspeaker on and calling on all male residents of the city of Derbent to “urgently come” to the local military recruitment center....

Mobilize those cops and their boss (they should fit both age and health criteria perfectly)

famschopman wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Such a response will not stop anything.

You have to go in and flush them out, or stick to blasting purely military targets

You need other specialties to flush them out.

All these actors are definitely not hiding in one of Kiev's government buildings, at least not sitting with a gorgeous view on the trees outside. I strongly doubt Zelinsky is even in Ukraine right now. So, you need to employ the FSB 'Jason Bourne' types of guys to whack them. Carefully planned and executed assassinations. One by one.

The only thing you achieve by going in with mass force is lots of casualties on both sides without achieving your main target. What the actions of today might do is cause civilians to get upset with the reckless behavior of their government which makes it easier moving forward to execute a reverse style regime change.

Once they cannot charge their iPhone or watch TikTok anymore, they will start to get really upset and propaganda loses its value. That is the point where you start with subliminal messages pointing out the betrayal of western actors versus opportunity for growth. It's a softer strategic approach but with higher potential than alienating the people.

Yeah that sounds like NATO's modus operandi

Make things so miserable for the civilian population that they overthrow their leaders for you

Only it has to be paired with information dominance and the whole rainbow of colour revolution technologies, which Russia simply doesn't have anything of in the Ukraine

Thus the only thing that such strikes can achieve, if not the groundwork for an upcoming general advance - is to try and deter the Ukraine's leaders from crossing any more Russian red-lines.
But this is a futile tactic when it comes to Kiev. They don't care what is destroyed in the Ukraine. If they had then they never would have agreed to this whole plan in place of the Minsk agreements, to become a vassal of NATO and serve their people up as cannon fodder in this fool's venture to try and collapse Russia. And they certainly would have made peace back in April when that plan failed.
All this I can only explain by observing that their homes, wealth, assets are all abroad. Inside the country I suspect their job is just to turn the nation into a suicidal torpedo and avatar for NATO to attack more Russian infrastructure through. And these outside instructions they will keep carrying out regardless.

Some scattered reports that round 2 has begun are trickling in. No solid confirmation yet, though.

edit: and jesus, the freaking gall of the eurocrats. Where was this outrage re Serbia, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, yadda yadda yadda? It physically hurts my eyes to even see the names von der Leyen etc these days, like a Pavlovian response to what I know the statement will be like.

edit 2: the unknowing suicide bomber, is it confirmed that he was Azeri? Has Azerbaijan said anything?

Big_Gazza wrote:That idiot Ukropi "ambassador" Melnick is getting trolled biggly by some German politician named Sven Tritschler, a regional legislator from the right-wing Alternative for Germany (AfD) party.

“I wonder a bit how Mr. Melnik wants to drag half of the world into this war, while his 20-year-old son is comfortably studying in Germany instead of fighting. The Americans call such a thing ‘chickenhawk,’ Tritschler, a lawmaker from the western state of North Rhine-Westphalia, wrote on Sunday.

Melnik quickly responded to Tritschler with profanities, tweeting: “That is none of your f***ing business, you s**t stain.”

Tritschler replied: “Oh, but it is exactly my business, if German citizens should pay not only for your tanks, but also for the studies of your draft-dodger son, you Bandera fanboy.”



full story on RT

Class act

And this is the Ukrainian ambassador to Germany we're talking about. This is an extremely senior post, given Germany's importance in general and as an ally of the Kiev regime.
Yet such public outbursts overwhelm not only all sentiments of the very concept of 'diplomacy', but basic decency as well. Even taken into account how the Ukraine seems to be dictating to Germany what it should be supplying and when, and calling its president a liver sausage - safe in the knowledge that Germany is just another US vassal like themselves and will be complying regardless.

Half these Ukrainian ambassadors are like that. Foul-mouthed ogres who throw around insults, provocations and profanities. The one in Kazakhstan as well. Not to forget the former foreign minister who Poroshenko actually dismissed from his post for calling Putin a fucker in front of a crowd; because even in Poro's time such speech was inadmissible.
After the 2014 coup it seems the diplomatic service of the country was adjourned and in their place they recruited some former internet-trolls

flamming_python wrote:
Half these Ukrainian ambassadors are like that. Foul-mouthed ogres who throw around insults, provocations and profanities.
After the 2014 coup it seems the diplomatic service of the country was adjourned and in their place they recruited some former internet-trolls

Goes for a lot of other officials too. They both look and behave like bar brawling simpletons.

That is because they don't care.
Nobody will call them in line, they can do&say whatever they want.
It is a part of the same project.

ALAMO wrote:That is because they don't care.
Nobody will call them in line, they can do&say whatever they want.
It is a part of the same project.

I mean, look at the guys who took charge during the coup to begin with. Like a motley collection of stereotypical gangster types, could be from any Guy Ritchie movie.

Oh, and that morbidly obese nazi guy too, forgot his name.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Some scattered reports that round 2 has begun are trickling in. No solid confirmation yet, though.

Seems confirmed? New arrivals in multiple cities.

No matter of how crazy it sounds, the Poroshenko regime seems quite civilized if we compare them with those clowns.
Things are getting crazier and crazier.
An "ambassador" calling the chancellor of Germany a "Leberwurst" is something unbelievable a few years ago only. He would be summoned within minutes, and probably expelled in the times of Merkel, not to mention Schroeder.
It is an idiocracy.
Those people are crazy, this is an end result of negative selection process.

And yes, it is confirmed. Kiev gets a boost vaccine right now.

Edit : Kremenchuk and Krivy Rog ale flashing, too.

ALAMO wrote:
And yes, it is confirmed. Kiev gets a boost vaccine right now.

Edit : Kremenchuk and Krivy Rog ale flashing, too.

Poltava too, some say.

Updates will probably be spotty, there are blackouts and lack of internet.

What is your favorite air strike so far?

Mine is the attack that severely damaged one of the most modern buildings in Kiev. This one also damaged the German consulate.

love this photo edit, he is happy bros.

Oh yes, that is a very good point

For a while now, there are hardly any new materials uploaded. But it does not mean that the sky stopped to falling on them. It still is, only they lack the electricity and Internet to upload it. In Dnepr it was some huge cell phone infrastructure blown to pieces, so I suppose there is a gap either.
What we know, is from official structures reports in TV.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:

flamming_python wrote:
Half these Ukrainian ambassadors are like that. Foul-mouthed ogres who throw around insults, provocations and profanities.
After the 2014 coup it seems the diplomatic service of the country was adjourned and in their place they recruited some former internet-trolls

Goes for a lot of other officials too. They both look and behave like bar brawling simpletons.

Because they have the impunity of the international Jewish press. The big media support them and can say anything.

mr_hd wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Such a response will not stop anything.

No response would have been better. Because it would have left the Damocles Sword of one dangling

But Israel-style deterrence will not work. Again, Kiev's rulers care neither for their population nor their own underlings. They take their orders from Washington and receive their scripts from PR agencies. They're actors, and only acting as leaders.

You have to go in and flush them out, or stick to blasting purely military targets

I agree that this response will not achieve much - 0 from military point of view. And Ukraine will use it as very powerful tool - to further demonize Russia internationally as existential aggressor toward itself (and possibly other countries) and to go into Russian collective mind and prove that after all in Ukraine there is huge war ongoing, the largest in Europe since second world war and not some limited military operation as Russian authorities are claiming officially.

Rulers in Kiev are more independent in their decision making than people here acknowledge - it is not US that makes all moves and even know all cards Ukraine has. As weaker side Ukraine is using two tier fight, one on the battle fields and second behind the lines as cover operations, partisan work, sabotages etc...
In both tiers it is forced to use very smart, usually low tech strategies in order to be able to stay in the fight since numbers and overall power is on Russian side.

This second part is very interesting - Russia is huge country, it is almost impossible to make secure all important sights and areas. In addition Ukraine so far was striking here and there, then going into the dark, then striking again new targets but with different approach each time - so there are no good patterns for Russian security forces that could predict and anticipate next move and thus block it.

So all in all conflict is steadily spiraling more and more and is getting more bloody too. So far nothing good came out of it and it is nowhere near to be over.

If the rulers in Kiev were that competent and independent they would never have let it all get to this stage in the first place.
An all out war with the Ukraine stuck in the middle and its people being goaded by one side to march into the other side's waiting artillery.

Hell they wouldn't have let any of the last 30 years happen, where the Ukraine, in 1991 one of the strongest and most advanced industrial economies in Europe, with a 50 million population, half highly-educated, and without any social or ethnic conflicts between any of them - would turn into what it did, even before the war.

But I digress.

As to its 'very smart, usually low tech strategies', well we're seeing the consequences of that smart, low-tech suicide bombing of the Crimean bridge today.
And regardless of whether it achieves anything for Russia, it's certainly nothing good for the Ukraine. With now its metallurgical plant out of power, probably being the biggest loss. It won't help in demonizing Russia - everyone that was on the Kiev regime's side has been on it for years now, and before these strikes and before the war. And new allies it probably won't get.

And what are these very smart partisan strategies you are referring to in your last paragraph exactly?
Where has it been striking, and to what effect?
More than anything else they have been executing their own civilians in the territories they've retaken control of.
But little inside Russia so far, except shelling some border villages. Is that supposed to terrify Russians out of the war?
Yes it can conduct terrorist strikes. It can even have its agents poison the water supply of some small town for example; wouldn't put it past Kiev. But that won't win the war for them either, it's just a rehash of the same Banderite tactics from the 40s and 50s.

This was also a good one

During the morning strikes on Kiev, the head of the department of the “Cyber Police“, Colonel Mykola Eatshit was destroyed. The information has already been officially confirmed.

@boris_rozhin

These 70 missiles are Surovikin's presentation. I like this guy.

Once seizing Odessa, install a IC procedure for investigating the Trade Unions House criminal arson strike of a few years back.

The head of the Investigative Committee of Russia instructed to initiate a case on the fact of the persecution of Medvedev by the SBU

The head of the Russian Investigative Committee Alexander Bastrykin instructed to open a criminal case in connection with the illegal persecution of the deputy chairman of the Russian Security Council Dmitry Medvedev by the Security Service of Ukraine.

https://russian.rt.com/russia/news/1059525-sk-delo-sbu-medvedev

flamming_python wrote:Such a response will not stop anything.

No response would have been better. Because it would have left the Damocles Sword of one dangling

But Israel-style deterrence will not work. Again, Kiev's rulers care neither for their population nor their own underlings. They take their orders from Washington and receive their scripts from PR agencies. They're actors, and only acting as leaders.

You have to go in and flush them out, or stick to blasting purely military targets

But doing nothing was accomplishing nothing.

The only way to end it is to chase the Kiev regime out of the country. Yes taking Kiev would be a bloody mess. But so was taking cities back in ww2.

Maybe attacks on Kiev will drive most of the civilians out and then Russia can just send in the troops. Just physically remove the regime.

Backman wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Such a response will not stop anything.

No response would have been better. Because it would have left the Damocles Sword of one dangling

But Israel-style deterrence will not work. Again, Kiev's rulers care neither for their population nor their own underlings. They take their orders from Washington and receive their scripts from PR agencies. They're actors, and only acting as leaders.

You have to go in and flush them out, or stick to blasting purely military targets

But doing nothing was accomplishing nothing.

The only way to end it is to chase the Kiev regime out of the country. Yes taking Kiev would be a bloody mess. But so was taking cities back in ww2.

Maybe attacks on Kiev will drive most of the civilians out and then Russia can just send in the troops. Just physically remove the regime.

Yes, precisely

Backman wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Such a response will not stop anything.

No response would have been better. Because it would have left the Damocles Sword of one dangling

But Israel-style deterrence will not work. Again, Kiev's rulers care neither for their population nor their own underlings. They take their orders from Washington and receive their scripts from PR agencies. They're actors, and only acting as leaders.

You have to go in and flush them out, or stick to blasting purely military targets

But doing nothing was accomplishing nothing.

The only way to end it is to chase the Kiev regime out of the country. Yes taking Kiev would be a bloody mess. But so was taking cities back in ww2.

Maybe attacks on Kiev will drive most of the civilians out and then Russia can just send in the troops. Just physically remove the regime.

It shouldn't be impossible. Taking kyiv is a possibility if a counteroffensive is launched and Belarus supports. Even low intensity nuclear weapons could be used in the Ukrainian military cores.
It all depends on Russia

Backman wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Such a response will not stop anything.

No response would have been better. Because it would have left the Damocles Sword of one dangling

But Israel-style deterrence will not work. Again, Kiev's rulers care neither for their population nor their own underlings. They take their orders from Washington and receive their scripts from PR agencies. They're actors, and only acting as leaders.

You have to go in and flush them out, or stick to blasting purely military targets

But doing nothing was accomplishing nothing.

The only way to end it is to chase the Kiev regime out of the country. Yes taking Kiev would be a bloody mess. But so was taking cities back in ww2.

Maybe attacks on Kiev will drive most of the civilians out and then Russia can just send in the troops. Just physically remove the regime.

I mean you do not need to go into Keiv, it has no ability to sustain itself, your better off just encircling it and forcing them out that way.This would take a while sure but trying to force your way into Kiev is going to be massive bloodbath for both sides

There are new arrivals of cruise missiles in the Cherkasy region.

https://t.me/intelslava/38874

Reports of explosions in Sumy, Kirovograd, Cherkasy, Dnepropetrovsk, Kiev


http://t.me/battleinsights

Another wave of "calibration" of Ukraine (the third or fourth already)

https://t.me/intelslava/38875


Explosions occurred at a military training ground in the Odessa region near the village of Mayaki on the border with Moldova, local residents told RIA Novosti

https://t.me/intelslava/38876