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    Post  lyle6 Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:39 am

    ahmedfire wrote:Is this a heat source to trick HEAT warheads like Javelin ? is it proven ?

    It very well might just work. I don't think they updated the Javelin target library to include profiles of the T-72 with the cage on. Javelin should also have some means of excluding hulks from intact vehicles. A T-72 with an irregular shape and localized heat spots that are not consistent with a running tank could be mistaken for a destroyed tank by the missile, which will be forced to either abort or divert to more juicier targets in the vicinity.

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    Post  Hole Fri Oct 28, 2022 12:26 pm

    Belisarius wrote:Or better saying "shitblade" because it had no impact on the battlefield so far.
    Shitblade made a lot of impacts on the battlefield, but didn´t hit anything. Just fell from the sky.  Laughing

    Latest example:
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30 - Page 28 Fgjiua10


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    Post  Hole Fri Oct 28, 2022 12:29 pm

    Firebird wrote:It doesn't need to or want to annex Galicia etc.
    A local strongman will sufffice. Over time, it could become a "gimp state" like Jap and Ger are to Uncle Sham.

    Malorossiya ie the Central region will require deradicalisation.
    The S and East are already happy to join Russia, more or less.
    Because someone speaks about "Ukrainians" doesn´t mean that 404 will not be liberated completely. Maybe there will be 3 new Federal Districts, Novorossiya (eastern and southern regions), Malorossiya (centre and northern regions) and THE Ukraine (western regions).

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    Post  Arrow Fri Oct 28, 2022 12:31 pm

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:03 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Firebird wrote:It doesn't need to or want to annex Galicia etc.
    A local strongman will sufffice. Over time, it could become a "gimp state" like Jap and Ger are to Uncle Sham.

    Malorossiya ie the Central region will require deradicalisation.
    The S and East are already happy to join Russia, more or less.
    Because someone speaks about "Ukrainians" doesn´t mean that 404 will not be liberated completely. Maybe there will be 3 new Federal Districts, Novorossiya (eastern and southern regions), Malorossiya (centre and northern regions) and THE Ukraine (western regions).

    No Russia isn't going to annex it all, they have no desire to. You can wish for this, but the reality is, its not going to happen

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    Post  franco Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:14 pm

    The expert explained the ratio of combat losses in the Donbass

    The ratio of losses of one to seven, eight or ten suggests that the battles are being fought by Ukraine not at the expense of skill, but at the expense of people, military expert Vladislav Shurygin told Izvestia.

    "They are trying to create multiple numerical superiority and rely in many ways only on it. It is most often not implemented and almost always leads to catastrophic losses. We also see that Ukraine is not able to provide good medical care to its wounded. The ratio of dead and wounded with modern means of protection should be one to four or to five, and in Ukraine-one to one and a half. People who are wounded simply do not survive, they remain on the battlefield," Vladislav Shurygin said.

    The expert stressed that Kiev has only one hope — for the newly mobilized. At the same time, Shurygin noted that the number of Ukrainians who can be called up for service to participate in the special operation "is not infinite."

    On October 27, Russian President Vladimir Putin said at the plenary session of the Valdai International Discussion Club that the Kiev regime does not spare its own citizens, so the Ukrainian troops suffer huge losses, sometimes the ratio reaches one to ten.

    The President also stressed that from the very beginning of the special operation, assistance to Donbass was a priority task for the Russian Armed Forces. The Head of State reminded that the people of Donbass saw their future only with Russia.

    On the same day, Russian troops repelled all enemy attacks and destroyed a factory for the production of explosives and rocket fuel in Pavlograd, Dnipropetrovsk region.

    https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/ru-en.en.5830b5af-635bb835-0c83641e-74722d776562/https/iz.ru/1417238/2022-10-28/ekspert-obiasnil-sootnoshenie-boevykh-poter-v-donbasse

    Read more in the exclusive material of Izvestia:

    At the cost of lives: Putin spoke about the losses of Ukrainian armed formations

    https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/ru-en.en.5830b5af-635bb835-0c83641e-74722d776562/https/iz.ru/1417052/andrei-fedorov-bogdan-stepovoi-anton-lavrov/tcenoi-zhiznei-putin-rasskazal-o-poteriakh-ukrainskikh-vooruzhennykh-formirovanii

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:18 pm

    walle83 wrote:The new elected government in Sweden is planning to step up its weapon delivery to Ukraine.
    The Archer artillery system and the RBS70 missile system is now on the table.

    https://www.di.se/nyheter/ob-mer-stod-till-ukraina-ar-att-vanta/

    All 3 of them?

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    Post  kvs Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:34 pm

    Belisarius wrote:
    Russia has about a two month window with the drones. Eventually the west will provide Ukraine with thousands of similar systems.

    It has already happened. Or have you forgotten that the West sends thousands of Switchblade kamikaze drones to Ukraine?
    Or better saying "shitblade" because it had no impact on the battlefield so far.

    What a total joke. Western crap that has no impact on the battlefield is hyped up as game changer but I see videos about the Geran-2
    on YouCrap whinging about it being "quantity over quality". GTFO, losers.

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:37 pm

    limb wrote:
    We won't be surprised if this is true.
    These generals want a lot from their personnel, but often do little to ensure that it is adequately implemented.
    And by the way, no one was imprisoned for failures in the NWO (but it should be)!


    ❗Commander of the grouping of Russian troops in Ukraine "Center" Colonel General Lapin (https://t.me/sotaproject/47326) personally put a gun to his temple and threatened to shoot the mobilized who retreated to Svatovo

    This is stated in the appeal of one of the mobilized Muscovites (the name, the agenda and the document itself are at the disposal of Sota), who spent several days without command and supplies on the front line and, as a result, retreated without an order along with his colleagues.

    According to the text of the document, written by the wife of the mobilized from his words, the Muscovite was called up on September 22, received a rusty machine gun and already on October 7, without training, except for one day of shooting, was taken from the Belgorod region to Ukraine.

    There, the situation developed over the course of several days as follows (a typical fragment from an appeal):

    “In the afternoon, a massive shelling of mortars began at us. Our 2nd platoon and 1st platoon hid in the forest belt, 5th and 6th companies also hid in the forest belt. As a result of a two-hour shelling, more than 4 were killed and 3 were wounded. Also, after the shelling, the 5th and 6th companies fled to the school in the basement. A communications company and KamAZ arrived, loaded with ammunition and mines. We ordered the communications company to lie down in the forest belt. The driver of the second KamAZ, realizing what was the matter, quickly drove back.

    In the evening of that day, shelling began on us. The commanders of the communications company ordered to sit behind the hangar, as a result of a two-hour shelling, the second hangar was destroyed and an infantry fighting vehicle without a crew was destroyed.

    The next morning, a massive shelling began on us, which lasted more than 4 hours. The communications company dispersed in panic during the shelling. In this connection, more than 6 people were killed, more than 3 people were injured.”

    As a result of all these events, the author of the text, together with his colleagues, retreated to Svatovo, where they were forced to wait for new orders, since the fleeing military were not allowed into the city:

    “Since there were no officers and command, we set ourselves the task of finding the headquarters and asking about further actions. We were standing at a gas station, Colonel General Lapin came to us with his personal guards. Having learned the situation about the retreat, Colonel General Lapin put a pistol to the head of the commander of the 5th company, Lieutenant B *, demanding to go back, and he also sounded a lot of insults against us (traitors, deserters and a lot of swear words).

    Toward evening of that day, the personal guards of Colonel General Lapin noticed a drone, at the same moment Colonel General Lapin and Colonel Rumyantsev left deep into Svatovo, leaving us in the open and placing two VP (military patrol - ed.) fighters to protect us from order "step to the right, step to the left - execution." After 1.5 hours, Colonel Rumyantsev arrived. We asked him for food and water, to which he answered us: “A carrion like you should neither eat, nor drink, nor sleep,” after which he ordered the VP to take us to the forest to the mountain, as a result, we had to sleep back on earth.

    On the morning of the next day, Colonel Rumyantsev arrived again in a state of intoxication, began to speak in an offensive form and verbally humiliate, thereby putting pressure on the psyche. Then in the afternoon he brought food and water. An hour later, fighters from the Wagner PMC came to us, who also began to insult us (they called us traitors to the motherland, cowards, deserters), and fighters from the 5th company went to them. Toward evening, two KamAZ trucks arrived and took us to the Russian border near Belgorod.”

    Now the wife of the author of the appeal has complained about what is happening to the military prosecutor's office and the ombudsman: a woman raising two small children alone is counting on her husband's demobilization. He and his colleagues remain in a unit in the Belgorod region without any supplies, they are under pressure to return to the front.

    Collective complaints about the situation are also written by other relatives of mobilized people who have fallen into a similar situation.

    All the cliches

    Rusty machine gun
    Mobilized and sent to the front line immediately with no training
    Abandoned by command
    Intoxicated superior officer
    Taken out back by the commisar for execution

    It reads like a propaganda account of the Eastern Front during WW2. Like those films Mikhalkov made; Burnt by the Sun

    Wouldn't put any stock in this pulp account

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:47 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    All 3 of them?

    Pay some respect, maybe even four!

    Laughing Laughing

    @re Switchblade, I suppose that there are some hits, yet Ukrs lack the means to document that. It is not like the Russkie who record most of the attacks with the bigger drone hanging above and making battle damage control Twisted Evil

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:48 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote: Kadyrov is most likely mad about losing 23 troops in that HIMARS strike on the chechen garrison in Kherson

    Although Lapin was already seen in the front line apparently with photos to prove it

    With Kherson it's shit luck, guys happened to be located by the enemy, and got fucked by a rocket

    That's why it's important to maintain opsec, and to move around due to the danger of these weapons,

    Without air defense or drones,  infantry is going to be vulnerable when these weapons are deployed

    How to clear them? Hunt the HIMARS, and use better dispersion

    I seen videos where the HIMARS launcher is being fired at a very low angle.
    With the explanation being that it helps the rocket to avoid air defence systems.
    And that does make sense. The lower the altitude that is maintained by the rocket, the narrower the windows for its engagement. Especially in any sort of forested, hilly or urban locale.

    However firing at such a low angle would also necessitate the HIMARS systems to be closer to its target, a lot closer in fact.
    More effort should be expended on hunting them down now that less ground needs to be monitored.

    Glad to hear only 23 have died, such as it were.. as opposed to initial reports which suggested 30 or more.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:22 pm

    FP, how is the mobilization viewed in Russia? Is it deeply unpopular as the western media claim?
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:23 pm

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:29 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    All the cliches

    Rusty machine gun
    Mobilized and sent to the front line immediately with no training
    Abandoned by command
    Intoxicated superior officer
    Taken out back by the commisar for execution

    It reads like a propaganda account of the Eastern Front during WW2. Like those films Mikhalkov made; Burnt by the Sun

    Wouldn't put any stock in this pulp account


    He is almost right ! yet this was not about Russians but ukrop 4th wave of cannon fodder.






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    sling like a modern trebuchet :d

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:34 pm

    @Rybar's Analysis: Russian Strikes on Ukraine's Energy System on 27 Oct 2022⚡

    🔎 Rybar's team continues its daily analysis of the consequences of systemic fire attacks on Ukraine's energy system.

    💥 In 24 hours, our team has recorded two strikes:

    ▪ Kievskaya 750kV substation - autotransformer hit confirmed
    ▪ Belotserkovskaya 330kV substation - probable damage

    🩸 Today's strike on the Kievskaya 750 substation has had a far greater impact in terms of efficiency than all previous strikes on the Kiev power grid combined.

    ➖ At least one single-phase 750/330kV autotransformer was destroyed. The shields separating the single-phase autotransformers from each other may have protected the other transformers from damage, but the destruction of at least one of the three renders the remaining two useless.

    ➖ The capacity of one autotransformer is 333 MVA: The RF Armed Forces have deprived the Kiev power district of the technical possibility of receiving 1000 MVA of capacity from the Rivne and Khmelnitsky nuclear power plants. And that is a lot.

    Yes, we understand that the transformer may not have been used at 100%, but we assume that the second three single-phase transformers were damaged as a result of previous strikes (unfortunately, objective control facts are lacking).

    ▪ This is a very serious blow to the Ukrainian power system. And the consequences were not slow to hit Kiev: a wave of unscheduled power cuts swept across the capital and the region.

    Despite #Kiev's own sources of generation - CHP-5, CHP-6 (which also suffered from the strike and lost half of its generating capacity), and the Kiev HPP, as well as the Tripolskaya TPP in the immediate vicinity of the capital - their energy is clearly insufficient for normal operation of the energy system.

    🚨 This leads to the conclusion that isolating the nuclear plants from the rest of the grid and consumers is currently the most effective scenario for influencing the Ukrainian energy system.



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    Post  Erk Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:46 pm

    Mark Sleboda giving an overview of the Geran-2 drones.

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    Post  ludovicense Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:28 pm

    Robert.V wrote:
    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:
    The MIG-31BM can only shoot slow Targets with the R-37m, they said ...


    It's a Mach 6 missile   ..what idiot would say that ?    Perhaps you mean it's not ideal for  maneuvering targets.   Which is also stupid frankly.  Since it's designed to engage target up to 8 G's.    Which is about what modern jets can do while carrying a normal  payload unless pure light air to air load.    

    In which case all modern planes  are rated up to 9 G's and most will even easily overload up to 11+ G's with a pair AAM's.

    But even then a pair of fired  R-37M will  be a treat.   As  the lead missile will  cause the target to maneuver and exhaust energy  for the second missile to have a  chance.

    This is common sense in the Western "specialist" environment. R 37 would be suitable for bombing and AWACS but not good enough to fight a fighter. Another myth propagated around here, being demolished.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:52 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Belisarius wrote:Or better saying "shitblade" because it had no impact on the battlefield so far.
    Shitblade made a lot of impacts on the battlefield, but didn´t hit anything. Just fell from the sky.  Laughing

    Latest example:
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30 - Page 28 Fgjiua10

    Those remind me of the 10 million dollar wonderwaffle dousing rod ied detectors we sold the Iraqis. Only difference is I felt sorry for those guys. I don't for the Ukes.

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    Post  calripson Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:45 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    Belisarius wrote:Or better saying "shitblade" because it had no impact on the battlefield so far.
    Shitblade made a lot of impacts on the battlefield, but didn´t hit anything. Just fell from the sky.  Laughing

    Latest example:
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30 - Page 28 Fgjiua10

    Those remind me of the 10 million dollar wonderwaffle dousing rod ied detectors we sold the Iraqis.  Only difference is I felt sorry for those guys.  I don't for the Ukes.

    Why would you feel sorry for Ukrainians? They are not paying for them. Feel sorry for the US taxpayer.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:46 pm

    Shoigu announced the completion of partial mobilization in Russia - the main statement from the report of the Minister of Defense to the President of the Russian Federation

    - the task of partially mobilizing 300,000 people has been completed, the military registration and enlistment offices will continue recruiting volunteers and candidates for contract service;

    - the average age of those called up as part of partial mobilization is 35 years;

    - 13,000 Russians went to the troops as volunteers, without waiting for summons from the military registration and enlistment offices;

    - 218,000 mobilized are at the training grounds and are undergoing training and combat coordination, 82,000 people are currently in the SMO zone, of which 41,000 are operating as part of units;

    - all the problems that arose at the initial stage of partial mobilization have been resolved;

    - The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation must be equipped with modern types of weapons.

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    Post  franco Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:49 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Shoigu announced the completion of partial mobilization in Russia - the main statement from the report of the Minister of Defense to the President of the Russian Federation

    - the task of partially mobilizing 300,000 people has been completed, the military registration and enlistment offices will continue recruiting volunteers and candidates for contract service;

    - the average age of those called up as part of partial mobilization is 35 years;

    - 13,000 Russians went to the troops as volunteers, without waiting for summons from the military registration and enlistment offices;

    - 218,000 mobilized are at the training grounds and are undergoing training and combat coordination, 82,000 people are currently in the SMO zone, of which 41,000 are operating as part of units;

    - all the problems that arose at the initial stage of partial mobilization have been resolved;

    - The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation must be equipped with modern types of weapons.

    Link please...
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    Post  Arrow Fri Oct 28, 2022 5:28 pm

    300k soldiers for a 1000km front is still not that much. It is not enough to conduct aggressive offensive actions.

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