Russian special military operation in Ukraine #31

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ALAMO wrote:
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Today it was reported that Italy postponed the next tranche of military assistance to the 404 - people are trying to figure out if we talk about postponing or ceasing. That might effect in return of Russian energy products to Italy, that is a 3rd Euro economy and advanced technologically developed industrial country. They would be happy as a puppy having the advantage of cheap energy over the German economy ... You know, the European integrity in its natural souse.

You are not somehow aware that it is over with Russian status as energy supplier to EU. It will cost EU 200 billions to overcome energy crunch and few years but main outcome is already visible basically. Gas storages are record full, prices are falling, huge LNG infrastructure projects are launched and most importantly - gas is now treated as any other fossil fuel and its consumption is to be further suppressed systematically.

mr_hd wrote:You are not somehow aware that it is over with Russian status as energy supplier to EU. It will cost EU 200 billions to overcome energy crunch and few years but main outcome is already visible basically. Gas storages are record full, prices are falling, huge LNG infrastructure projects are launched and most importantly - gas is now treated as any other fossil fuel and its consumption is to be further suppressed systematically.

Nice try. Even if you put together all the LNG in Qatar, the US, and Australia it would not replace the natural gas the EU imports from Russia. And those LNG supplier countries have long term contracts with Asian countries, like Japan, South Korea, and China to fullfill.

As for your "estimate" of cost, Germany alone is going to spend 200 billion EUR this year. And who knows about next year. I would not be surprised if this energy "transition" in fact cost the EU over a trillion EUR or more. And you do not have to listen to me about the energy transition time, the Qatari gas minister told that the supply situation to the EU won't improve in less than 5 years and that they better sort out their relationship with Russia if they want supply in the meantime.

An M109 got yeeted by a lancet. I think it hit the engine compartment. Finally this western objectively trash SPG was destroyed by a drone. Hopefully giatsints, malkas, mstas and koalitsiyas can do their job as counterbattery next time.

https://t.me/ghostnewsx/1999
What is going with the ugledar offensive? Is the russian army still advancing there?

It seems like the launchet didn’t damage that m109

lancelot wrote:
Nice try. Even if you put together all the LNG in Qatar, the US, and Australia it would not replace the natural gas the EU imports from Russia. And those LNG supplier countries have long term contracts with Asian countries, like Japan, South Korea, and China to fulfill.

And, of course by mistake due to poor knowledge of English, the Qatari minister of the economy already called the EU, so that countries who will apply the price cap for the Russian oil won't be even considered for LNG deliveries

lancelot wrote:
As for your "estimate" of cost, Germany alone is going to spend 200 billion EUR this year. And who knows about next year. I would not be surprised if this energy "transition" in fact cost the EU over a trillion EUR or more. And you do not have to listen to me about the energy transition time, the Qatari gas minister told that the supply situation to the EU won't improve in less than 5 years and that they better sort out their relationship with Russia if they want supply in the meantime.

Not that I would be much interested in discussion with the zoo specimens that it is but right now Poland is supposed to "negotiate" the deal with Westinghouse and Koreans for construction of two NPP. The Westinghouse one is claimed to be +E20 bln, and the Korean one slightly less. So two out of three NPPs Poland is considering makes E38 bln alone, and we talk about the complementary of an existing system of energy generation and a time horizon of 2035+.
And that are not contractual prices but barely some early calculations, and the only company in the world that kept the prices of constructed NPPs is Rosatom. All the others faced giant price hikes over the contractual ones, so ... make it double already.

Aside from the fact that this moron obviously doesn't get the point that natural gas supplies are for the multiple branches of industry, and can't be replaced. No gas means no fertilizers. No gas means no polymers. No gas means no plastic. No gas means no chemical industry. No gas means no technical gases for construction, shipbuilding, bridge/rail construction. Last but not least, no gas means the whole of metallurgy, ceramics, a fukin' bread baking non existent, because switching to electric power requires giant investments in the whole infrastructure, and the existing already energy production cap that is non existent. Making the whole process not the matter of money the EU don't have anymore facing giant debts, inflation and destruction of money printers - but rather a time consuming process that can be considered in a decade long horizon, not for this winter season.
Those fukin trolls are so utterly stupid, that it jumps out of any given box.

Ursula Wünder rightly deserves a Nobel for shithead initiative.

limb wrote:An M109 got yeeted by a lancet. I think it hit the engine compartment. Finally this western objectively trash SPG was destroyed by a drone. Hopefully giatsints, malkas, mstas and koalitsiyas can do their job as counterbattery next time.

https://t.me/ghostnewsx/1999
What is going with the ugledar offensive? Is the russian army still advancing there?

It would be so cool if they made the kamikaze drones look like a mini Japanese Zero...just sayin

DerWolf wrote:It seems like the launchet didn’t damage that m109

It possible it did not destroy it, but I would be pretty shocked if it was undamaged .

3 arrivals in Kiev. Hits in Kharkov, too. Krivoy Rog, Nikopol, Dnjepropetrovsk... It is Monday again?




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Sprinter Monitor
@SprinterMonitor
The Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy dreams of going to Crimea next summer after the Ukrainian victory


"Your" people sit in the dark, your "soldiers" are slaughtered ... and you make jokes?
Is there no man in Ukraine with eggs who makes a coup and surrender immediately? Do you have to send people like the guy up there every day?

Nazi Merc Tracker
@TrackANaziMerc
When they say there are no Nazi's in Ukraine, send them this.
https://t.me/TrackAMerc/1052


@Scholz and @Baerbock
"No matter what my German voters think, I will never give up Ukraine".
As we see ... your fascists roll troops.

mr_hd wrote:

ALAMO wrote:
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Today it was reported that Italy postponed the next tranche of military assistance to the 404 - people are trying to figure out if we talk about postponing or ceasing. That might effect in return of Russian energy products to Italy, that is a 3rd Euro economy and advanced technologically developed industrial country. They would be happy as a puppy having the advantage of cheap energy over the German economy ... You know, the European integrity in its natural souse.

You are not somehow aware that it is over with Russian status as energy supplier to EU. It will cost EU 200 billions to overcome energy crunch and few years but main outcome is already visible basically. Gas storages are record full, prices are falling, huge LNG infrastructure projects are launched and most importantly - gas is now treated as any other fossil fuel and its consumption is to be further suppressed systematically.

I love your optimism however you seem to have a periodic touch with reality. 200billions over years? Germany alone already issued 200billions package for local consumers. This year Well Russia wont sell to Europe so 500 millions of population will not buy it. Or will since they are still buying and buying.. But remaining of 7 billions of people actually need energy too. No worries hun.


Gas consumption si being suppressed rn. By turning down any heating across EU. Bwahahahaha


Prices are failing? in my eurozone country gas bills grew 3,5 times and hundreds thousands plea for social services help in utilities payments. You must be a lucky Ukrainian not paying any bills then. They all are lilbit like hookers in the west, at least hookers give something in return tho.

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:Sprinter Monitor
@SprinterMonitor
The Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy dreams of going to Crimea next summer after the Ukrainian victory


"Your" people sit in the dark, your "soldiers" are slaughtered ... and you make jokes?
Is there no man in Ukraine with eggs who makes a coup and surrender immediately? Do you have to send people like the guy up there every day?

His people are diaspora or israel not Ukrainians.

In Crimea, they promised to prepare a camera for Zelensky by the sea

SIMFEROPOL, November 2 - RIA Novosti. Oleg Kryuchkov, adviser to the head of Crimea on information policy, promised Vladimir Zelensky, who announced his intention to visit the peninsula, a prison cell near the sea.


Earlier, Zelensky, answering the question of what he would do first of all if Ukraine won the conflict, said in an interview with Czech television that he would go to Crimea to see the sea.
"We have no more than 100 kilometers from any pre-trial detention center to the sea in any direction. And not far from two seas at once, the Black and Azov, there is a good correctional labor colony in Kerch . The prison cell is waiting," Kryuchkov told RIA Novosti, commenting on Zelensky's statement .

https://ria.ru/20221102/zelenskiy-1828738266.html

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:Sprinter Monitor
@SprinterMonitor
The Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy dreams of going to Crimea next summer after the Ukrainian victory

https://twitter.com/i/status/1587928337879822336

"Your" people sit in the dark, your "soldiers" are slaughtered ... and you make jokes?
Is there no man in Ukraine with eggs who makes a coup and surrender immediately? Do you have to send people like the guy up there every day?

Delusional jew. There are many like him in the west......total nutcases.

No dummy TELs here

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

Prices are failing?  in my eurozone country gas bills grew 3,5 times and hundreds thousands plea for social services help in utilities payments.  You must be a lucky Ukrainian not paying any bills then. They all are lilbit like hookers in the west, at least hookers give something in return tho.

The wonders of western capitalism. Spot prices going to zero while consumer prices keep rising into the mesosphere.
There are a lot of YouCrap wankers who think the spot price dip is the end of Russia. It is evidence of retard grade
ignorance.

BTW, when whale oil was running out in the second half of the 1800s it also went through a wild oscillation of price from
huge peaks to near zero valleys. So such price variation is not evidence of ample supply.

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:Nazi Merc Tracker
@TrackANaziMerc
When they say there are no Nazi's in Ukraine, send them this.
https://t.me/TrackAMerc/1052

https://twitter.com/i/status/1587916410633834500

@Scholz and @Baerbock
"No matter what my German voters think, I will never give up Ukraine".
As we see ... your fascists roll troops.

Do t have Twitter u have a photo?

d_taddei2 wrote:

Do t have Twitter u have a photo?

You dont need to have it. Its opening here , just press view link and the magic happens

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:

Do t have Twitter u have a photo?

You dont need to have it. Its opening here , just press view link and the magic happens

Not fore me, it's blocked by script execution rules, same goes for Telegram.

flamming_python wrote:

Isos wrote:The grain deal has nothing to do with the war. It's about exporting food to other countries.

It would be really uggly to use it as a weapon.

It's good to see they let it keep going.

It has everything to do with the war as the Ukrainians have already used the sea-lanes provided by the deal to conduct attacks against Russia. Twice. And their 'written assurances' don't mean jack. What the hell is that?

Furthermore Russia should care less about whether any food gets to Europe or not, where most of it seems to be going. Is Europe offering Russia to resume exporting fertilizers and other goods through European ports? No

I don't know what Erdogan offered or threatened to resurrect this grain deal but it is a massive walk-back and a pie in the face. The attack on the Black Sea Fleet has effectively occurred without consequence in this case. Then they shouldn't have withdrawn if they weren't prepared to keep to that decision, IMO.

This acts a double edged weapon. Firstly as those have pointed out what kind of deal was done behind closed doors that we don't know for now. And secondly the overt parts to the deal, this shows Russia to be reasonable and willing to come back to a deal, this also removes the image that the west had painted saying Russia was starving poor countries the whole big bad Russia routine in western media. This also serves to give access for poorer countries to the grain some of which are African countries and some maybe friendly to Russia and abstained in various UN votes involving Ukraine the last thing Russia wants to do is lose allies or friends. After the war I am sure Russia will be reminding said countries of the grain deal, and I am sure investments, and arms deals will be done. And on the flip side when Ukraine does another attack then Russia will turn this around and state big bad Ukraine and this would in turn make those poorer nations take a very dim view of Ukraine and it's western allies knowing fine well that such attacks has a direct impact on its country and its population. And if Ukraine Carey's out more attacks this would only serve to humiliate Erdogan, and we all know how furious he can get and start throwing toys out of the pram. Turkish drones being sent to Ukraine will be stopped and we could see these drones being redirected to Donbass militia

Another point Russia can make if further attacks happen is the justification for liberating Odessa as by doing so would be Russia's only way to ensure safety within the black sea. Ukraine has left them no choice

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:

Do t have Twitter u have a photo?

You dont need to have it. Its opening here , just press view link and the magic happens

Need to be logged in to see sensitive content apparently and u can't log in without an account

d_taddei2 wrote:

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:

Do t have Twitter u have a photo?

You dont need to have it. Its opening here , just press view link and the magic happens

Need to be logged in to see sensitive content apparently and u can't log in without an account

I have no account on Twatter and I can view the video. Maybe you have some sort of javascript issue?

I find Telegram to be way more annoying in this regard. I can't view most of the videos posted without having an
account or installing the app.

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Why would Russia need these missiles? Considering Iskander and Kalibr its obvious they either a) ran out , or b) cannot use these liberally anymore because their stocks are low

As others had said and I mentioned this weeks ago, these missiles are far cheaper than iskander and it makes perfect sense to use such missiles on targets that don't require the full capabilities of islander, but require a decent range and high explosive element. These are pretty much a long range Tochka, and Russia could design such a missile no problems at all, but why waste your time and money on what is essentially a basic ballistic missile when you can buy it from an ally who has put in all the research and development, time and costs already and got a product that's fit for purpose and ready to buy off the shelf. Makes perfect sense. In fact I am surprised we haven't seen the Belarusian Polonez yet.

We might find in years to come thst Russia may develop a basic ballistic missile for use on iskander platform but with better accuracy and range. Just like the war in Syria Russia and the Syrians found that in certain situations you don't need high tech weapons to achieve the desired results. T-55, AT-3 sagger, SPG -9 for example proved to be very useful in Syria taken out enemies in buildings and light armour. Cheap ammunition, powerful enough, decent range, and reliable. In comparison the USA coalition in Afghanistan were using expensive javelin ATGW on mud huts and Toyota Hilux extremely overkill and very expensive.

Russia I believe is thinking wisely

Well Archangel, for a strategic rocket force out of missiles and an army out of drones, it seems -per twitter- that lots of places in Ukraine are seeing free fireworks tonight. Nikolayevsk, Zaprozhiye, Dnipro, Kharkov etc are all said to be experiencing fireworks shows, and they must be smoking too because the fireworks are causing stupendous explosions at key infrastructure, but its all for not I guess as Zelensky will be in Crimea by Christmas and Moscow by Hitler's birthday, after all the western press says its over for Russia and so did Benny Hodges.