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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:56 pm

    @Podlodka77
    The meaning of a forum is of opinion and diversity of the opinion and not insults.

    You are welcome to have a different opinion, but omitting your hostility.

    @Admin, I ask for warning of the user.

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    Post  famschopman Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:02 pm

    I understand the reasoning behind wanting to a fast closure of the war, but this is not in Russian (Chinese/Indian) interest. If we turn it around and look at some of the other arguments.

    - The longer the war takes, the more impact this will have on depletion of NATO stock.
    - The longer the war takes, you will inevitably see more friction and fighting between NATO members.
    - The longer the war takes, the civilian population will take notice if the deterioration of economic circumstances causing pressure on governments.

    Meanwhile, Russia has its economic sanctions well mitigated. Still has minimal to almost zero debt. Is working well and moving forward with the bricks countries while the dollar is losing influence.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:07 pm

     Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Today at 6:56 pm

    Bro, you have to get in line when it comes to "warning this user"… Laughing
    I know that you crybabies and spineless people don't like me the most because it's mutual - I don't like you either...

    I have already written several times that you do not know where you belong, that is, you are only members of the forum.
    It's one thing to write your opinion and quite another to write almost every day something like "everything is falling apart, everything has failed, the Russians are losing, the West has the advantage, etc".

    So the match or SMO in Ukroshitstan is still in progress and it's up to you to watch and follow the flow or to give up..


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    Post  ALAMO Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:33 pm

    Zoran, you naughty, naughty boy you Laughing Laughing Twisted Evil

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:42 pm

    @Podlodka77
    I do not write neither daily nor negative in relation to the SMO. Your hatred may have risen to you.
    You are a small spirit. To write useless and not illuminating with you. No arguments, no tiring. Just a troll.

    @famschopman
    The United States, Germany and France are currently awarding the expansion of capacities. If the SMO goes for more than 9 months, this will increase significantly in the West. I don't think so is beneficial.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:44 pm

    To ALAMO

    Bro, you have an example of men and women watching a movie together.
    Most of the men carefully follow the movie scenes in peace, without commenting, while the women constantly ask some questions and create unnecessary drama...
    So do some members of the forum.. Suspect

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:45 pm

    Each single piece of metal made in US and EU cost 10x the Russian price.
    20x the Iranian price.
    30x the Korean price.
    Who will win this exchange, zaychik ?


    So do some members of the forum.. Suspect


    Maybe they are females Laughing scratch dunno Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:48 pm

    Honest they did Laughing

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    Ukrainian Defense Forces destroyed 18 out of 28 cruise missiles fired and 3 out of 5 guided air missiles,-Zaluzhny
    Russia used H-101/H-555 and H-22 cruise missiles, Kalibr sea-launched cruise missiles, and H-59 air-to-air guided missiles against Ukraine's critical infrastructure.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:49 pm

    They have not intercepted realistically.

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    🇺🇦Burshtyn TPP. It was she who stopped producing electricity, as the DTEK company said. The facility is one of the largest in western Ukraine, so there will be enough problems with light in Transcarpathia and Galicia, and at the same time for a relatively long time.
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    Post  ALAMO Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:49 pm

    Give them some credits John, this time it is not 110% intercepted Laughing

    Post Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Today at 7:49 pm

    They have not intercepted realistically.


    Oh no shit dude Shocked How did you figure that out? dunno Shocked
    Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:52 pm

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    @Podlodka77
    I do not write neither daily nor negative in relation to the SMO. Your hatred may have risen to you.
    You are a small spirit. To write useless and not illuminating with you. No arguments, no tiring. Just a troll.



    Arguments....wait let me check...

    For the rest of what you wrote - I don't give a ****..




     Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Today at 4:55 pm

    Every day of longer, the position of Russia deteriorates and lets his in front of the production melt. The sleeping countries of NATO also wakes up to start war production again.


    What are these "arguments" and on what basis do you know that it is as you wrote ?
    What is your position in world politics and in world geopolitical currents so that you know that it is so as you wrote?

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:59 pm

    Interesting comment on what looks like a quick decision to move the operating base of the AWACs from Germany to Romania. Either reduce flight to station times or allow more than one in the air at a time.

    NATO warning and reconnaissance systems were completely disabled in today's Russian strikes
    by Valentin Vasilescu

    NATO has decided to deploy 3 E-3 AWACS aircraft to Otopeni Air Base in Romania. This decision shows that something has started to go wrong in the Ukrainian AA defense early warning system based on information provided by NATO.
    ...
    Deputy Commander of Ground Forces of Ukraine Lt. Gen. Alexander Pavlyuk noted that "the causes of the explosions will be announced separately." It was only 6 hours after the attack that they learned that Russian missiles had entered Ukraine via Belarus.
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    Russia has created certain zones of invisibility for aerial and satellite detection systems. The Russians have several highly effective jamming systems, including the R 330ZH Zhitel and the Krasuha-4.
    ...
    Http...>en.reseauinternational.net/les-systemes-dalerte-et-de-reconnaissance-de-lotan-ont-ete-completement-neutralises-lors-des-frappes-russes-daujourdhui/

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:31 pm

    I suppose they need to get much closer to get any footage.
    That is why operating from UK or Aviano makes no sense anymore.
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    Post  SolidarityWithRussia Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:31 pm

    Probably Russia would not want Nato to obtain information about its best jamming capabilities, unless they have to conduct important operations. I guess the Russian Winter offensive is about to get much more serious now.

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    Post  ludovicense Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:40 pm

    very day that takes longer this war means increasing production in NATO countries more. Since Ukraine can hardly produce almost, hardly repairing, NATO will switch to full production and produce for the Nazi Land.

    Every day of longer, the position of Russia deteriorates and lets his in front of the production melt. The sleeping countries of NATO also wakes up to start war production again.

    The US, EU and the rest of NATzO are not manufacturing powerhouse like China, there is no such as sleeping NATzO countries, continued support to PUkraine will only drain their resources which will lead to further decline which is a good thing for the rest of the non-NATzO world.


    You have to consider that the level of destruction imposed by Russia is greater than the replacement level. This is most relevant.
    It doesn't matter how much ammunition or tanks they send... look at Ukraine already lost more than 3000 tanks... the west has no way to replace that unless it puts the whole economy in war mode...

    I read that challenger 2 will not be used in Donbass for fear of tanks being captured (wouldn't it be fear of getting bogged down?) Very Happy

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:49 pm

    L2 represents perfect zero mystery.

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    Post  Hole Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:54 pm

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    Galicia getting some love.
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    Kiev PP. Also Burshtyn PP. Minor damage. A little blue tape and it will be ready.  pwnd


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    Post  Podlodka77 Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:54 pm

     ALAMO Today at 8:49 pm
    L2 represents perfect zero mystery.


    If the Russians only had swords and spears, then the use of Leopard 2 tanks would make sense.
    That's exactly why I don't understand Hollywood warriors who don't understand that all weapon systems are more or less similar, if they already belong to the same generational period.
    The only thing that matters is the amount of weapons.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:55 pm

    It is Putin's multik!!
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    Post  Hole Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:02 pm

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    Todays strikes
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    Nothing to see here!
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    Last stop before the final route out of Bakhmut.

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    Post  limb Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:04 pm

    Good video on russian offensive prospects.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z65TlEFNEzY

    One very important  point in the video is that no army has successfully advanced through the donbass industrial zone historically,all attempts to directly conquer it have led to massive losses with little ground taken. All successful attempts to take it were through encirclements or flanking attacks from sumy or zaporozhie. this brings the question why russians are so hellbent to put so many troops to directly assault fortifications built in 8 years frontally instead of doing a massive but slow offensive on the much less fortified zaporozhie sector.Why bang your head on hilly terrain with massive bunker networks, mines and sprawling industrial areas when you can make a massive push through completely flat, relatively poorly fortified and agricultural land through gulyaypole or Sumy. Why?
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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:08 pm

    The 490,000 men of military age figure needs a citation. It looks a lot like an estimate appropriate for 1990 Ukraine.
    The current Ukr population is under 20 million and the birth rate has crashed since 1990. So a more realistic figure
    is 20/52 * 0.3 * 490,000 = 56,000. Also not all the cohort that matures every year stay to die for Elensky and
    his clown regime.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:11 pm

    Wagner Group is in honor of the great Richard Wagner ?


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