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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #36

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    Post  Isos Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:17 pm

    Plane in Nikolaev hit. Drone strike?

    No sign of big explosion. Could have just burnt by accident.
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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:37 pm

    Holly shit Laughing Laughing

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/41635

    A film made in mid-Dec from the Ukrainian side in Soledar.
    Deputy commander of 60th Brigade gratitudes his subordinates for outstanding performance in the line of duty and exceptional courage.

    Kind of Laughing Laughing Laughing

    BTW, pay attention to the language they are using. Remind me, it is a kind of Hochukr? Laughing

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    Post  limb Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:08 pm

    Why doesnt encourage north korea to send an expeditionary corps with its most elite anti-capitalist soldiers? North koreans have excellent artillery, MANPADS, APCs and mortars too. Their special forces have proven themselves in covert ops against one of the most secure zones in the world. Why shouldnt russia escalate this way? Why not bring a cuban expeditionary corps too. Its cucked to fight alone against NATO mercs. Bring forces from your allies too.

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    Post  Azi Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:43 pm

    Isos wrote:So once the tank get destroyed what will be the new game changer weapon they will send ?

    They are gradually increasing the firepower they send. Those assholes may end up giving some 155mm nuclear shells. When you see the level of thinking of those people like that finish party girl this may end up in a nuk war.
    When I think about this retarded hooker...

    What actually prevents Russia from taking revenge on Finland after the Ukraine war? She screwed up with Erdogan and Finland won't become a NATO member quickly.

    There is an agreement with other EU countries that they will help Finland in case of defense....but with what?
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    Post  Azi Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:53 pm

    limb wrote:Why doesnt encourage north korea to send an expeditionary corps with its most elite anti-capitalist soldiers? North koreans have excellent artillery, MANPADS, APCs and mortars too. Their special forces have proven themselves in covert ops against one of the most secure zones in the world. Why shouldnt russia escalate this way? Why not bring a cuban expeditionary corps too. Its cucked to fight alone against NATO mercs. Bring forces from your allies too.
    Simply no need!

    The last time we saw the Russian army in full action, they made huge gains in the shortest amount of time. Right now, the Russian army is on standby...it's gathering forces, the reservists are being well trained. In a few weeks it will pop! Whether there will be an offensive like in February last year or whether Russia will simply increase the pressure extremely along the entire front is unknown...either way the Ukrainian army will collapse.

    By the way.. Wagner recruits fighters all over Europe. In the volunteer battalions (no Wagner) there are many Serbs and other Eastern Europeans.

    If North Koreans fought, it would only unnecessarily increase the pressure on North Korea or China. The western lying press would portray North Koreans as Chinese and cry for sanctions. China is not yet ready for a confrontation with the West.


    But North Koreans can play an important role in rebuilding the destroyed cities. China and Arab states may also be investing in these areas. This is almost more important than military support.

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    Post  limb Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:06 pm

    Simply no need!

    The last time we saw the Russian army in full action, they made huge gains in the shortest amount of time. Right now, the Russian army is on standby...it's gathering forces, the reservists are being well trained. In a few weeks it will pop! Whether there will be an offensive like in February last year or whether Russia will simply increase the pressure extremely along the entire front is unknown...either way the Ukrainian army will collapse.

    By the way.. Wagner recruits fighters all over Europe. In the volunteer battalions (no Wagner) there are many Serbs and other Eastern Europeans.

    If North Koreans fought, it would only unnecessarily increase the pressure on North Korea or China. The western lying press would portray North Koreans as Chinese and cry for sanctions. China is not yet ready for a confrontation with the West.


    But North Koreans can play an important role in rebuilding the destroyed cities. China and Arab states may also be investing in these areas. This is almost more important than military support.

    Who are you to say theres no need? There is need for EVERYTHING. There is no collapse. The russian army isnt "just waiting" it DOESNT HAVE ENOUGH EQUIPMENT. Thats the reason why  russia is not advancing on the zaporozhie front. If you think they dont want to take ugledar, gulyaipole, orekhov because they're "taking their time" you're deluded. They simply can't , because this front needs at least 200000 heavily mechanized soldiers, but theres simply not enough. A north korean and cuban expeditionary corps would remedy this.


    Also north korea is already completely sanctioned. Same with cuba. What could the west possibly do more to them?

    Also it about SENDING A MESSAGE. Instead of talking about cuck redlines, russia should take revenge for the bombing of engels, belgorod, kerch bridge, Us operatives, etc with its own escalation. Why do you like cuckholdry? Why do you like only NATO to escalate?

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:11 pm

    Polish retired brass suggested gathering Ukrainian refugees and sending them back to fight.

    Military summons are being handed out even at hospitals in Ukraine now. Mind you, in the past week they placed recruitment officers at all major entrances/exits to larger cities such as Lvov and Kiev, and in previous weeks we've seen lots of footage of them harassing pensioners on the streets all over the country. That tells me they're desperate for more people to man the less prioritized lines, so that they can concentrate all good/decent forces on containing the Bakhmut axis and attempting to do something in Kreminna.

    Wagner has taken Kleshcheevka and is advancing on Ivanovskoye, the Chasov Yar-Bakhmut highway is now properly compromised.

    The attempted Ukranian "counterattack" at Spirne was neutralized and they had to retreat with heavy casualties.

    The regular Russian armed forces have meanwhile done some probing attacks in the Zaporozhye area, with small advances. I guess they're checking the health of the defensive lines there now that Ukraine is diverting more and more towards Bakhmut, as it is becoming increasingly evident that that city most hold no matter the costs incurred.

    And of course, as all of you have been yapping about all day, EU/US/NATO has now basically finalized what Ukraine's 3rd army will be like, after the two previous ones have been destroyed by a heavily sanctioned Russia fighting with one hand behind the back.

    This will get uglier before it gets better, rest assured.


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    Post  Sujoy Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:11 pm

    Sweden is sending Archer 155mm artillery. This won't help either because CAESAR failed to impress.

    Granted that self propelled artillery like Archer can be deployed very quickly have good supporting devices such as gyroscopes and GPS, but cost of maintaining self propelled artillery is extremely high.

    High power diesel engines, complex hydraulics, wiring, Continuous track, skilled mechanics and technicians for all these sub-systems and other aspects which cost a fortune to maintain


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    Post  T-47 Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:18 pm

    What do you guys think about the possibilities of ukro (aka NATO) attack on Russian MIC factories? US is surely following the path of escalation and Russian MIC is the lifeline of Russian war efforts. NATO can't match it anytime soon. Sanctions not working, going after the factories are the only short term way for them to achieve anything.


    PS: please keep the replies reasonable, not interested in the delusional personal fantasy type takes some ppl have on this forum
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    Post  limb Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:18 pm

    Wagner has taken Kleshcheevka and is advancing on Ivanovskoye, the Chasov Yar-Bakhmut highway is compromised.

    Thats a great achievement. However the northern fortress west of kleshcheevka isnt taken. Its the key to the chasov yar-bakhmut higway. klescheevka isnt.  


    Sweden is sending Archer 155mm artillery. This won't help either because CAESAR failed to impress.
    proof that CAESAR failed to impress? So far 0 caesars have been confirmed destroyed. Only several damaged. And no the lancet hitting the cab doesnt count, because the gun and its autoloading system were completely undamaged.

    It can be expected, that since 10 months there are 0 confirmed destrructions of caesars or PZH2000s, no archers will be destroyed. AS90s will be destroyed, since theyre inferior to the krab, and the krab has been destroyed several times.
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    Post  limb Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:20 pm

    I guess they're checking the health of the defensive lines there now that Ukraine is diverting more and more towards Bakhmut, as it is becoming increasingly evident that that city most hold no matter the costs incurred.
    Dont they have drones and satellites for that?
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    Post  walle83 Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:22 pm

    When I think about this retarded hooker...

    What actually prevents Russia from taking revenge on Finland after the Ukraine war? She screwed up with Erdogan and Finland won't become a NATO member quickly.

    There is an agreement with other EU countries that they will help Finland in case of defense....but with what?

    With Finland being part of the west and already a close partner to Nato and a to soon become a full member, gess how much support they would get from both EU and the US.
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    Post  Azi Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:27 pm

    limb wrote:Also north korea is already completely sanctioned. Same with cuba. What could the west possibly do more to them?

    Also it about SENDING A MESSAGE. Instead of talking about cuck redlines, russia should take revenge for the bombing of engels, belgorod, kerch bridge, Us operatives, etc with its own escalation. Why do you like cuckholdry? Why do you like only NATO to escalate?
    Cuba's population is as large as that of Belarus, and if they join forces in Ukraine, the US will attack them within a few days. Cuba is geopolitically in a very, very difficult position just off the coast of the United States.

    North Korea has half the population of Ukraine. South Korea has twice the population of North Korea.

    They are political systems that are very balanced, too many dead soldiers (citizens) without having been attacked themselves brings with it domestic political instability. In addition, they would expose themselves to their opponent and invite them to attack.

    The only possibility is to participate via PMC Wagner. That means that the countries tolerate Wagner's recruitment...in Cuba that would be possible, in North Korea something like that is impossible.

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    Post  famschopman Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:28 pm

    Given the amount of material on the move to Belarus, the missile strikes continuing, and the military industry delivering armored vehicles and jets in relatively high pace. The decision is not a matter of 'cannot' due to lack of resources but more a 'will not' from a strategic standpoint of driving attrition.

    Better to weaken the enemy, the morale, destroy their logistics, warehouses, storages, energy infrastructure, surveillance capabilities while the western countries keep sending equipment that inevitably gets destroyed.

    I don't believe any of the Ukraine brigades on the front fighting Wagner are confident in their ability or their survival chances neither do I think all those men that are now forcefully mobilized via guerilla tactics are excited or motivated to be sent to the front.

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    Post  Azi Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:32 pm

    walle83 wrote:With Finland being part of the west and already a close partner to Nato and a to soon become a full member, gess how much support they would get from both EU and the US.
    This is true!

    But the depots are almost empty and then the question arises what else can NATO do to help? Wink

    If the Russian output is higher than that of western defense companies, then things could look really bad for countries like Finland and Sweden. Because at some point everyone is next to himself... and I don't think that German citizens want to die for Finland while migrants fertilize their wives at home.

    It's also purely hypothetical. Putin has already made it clear that there is actually no problem with Finland and that they can do whatever they want.

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    Post  Azi Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:38 pm

    limb wrote:proof that CAESAR failed to impress? So far 0 caesars have been confirmed destroyed. Only several damaged. And no the lancet hitting the cab doesnt count, because the gun and its autoloading system were completely undamaged.
    LOL

    It took me 5 seconds to find a video from November last year of a destroyed CAESAR.

    And I can only emphasize it again and again...war is not a movie! There are not always drones or cameras that can record everything. Many losses remain in the dark. Of course, this applies to every party of every conflict.

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    Post  limb Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:44 pm

    On LostArmor, there's only one video of a caesar's driving cab getting hit by a lancet. Its not destroyed. Its damaged. There are ZERO other pics or videos of a any caesar recieving damage, other than and an extremely grainy video of artillery shells landing 200-400m away from some caesars back in july.
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    Post  limb Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:47 pm

    Cuba's population is as large as that of Belarus, and if they join forces in Ukraine, the US will attack them within a few days. Cuba is geopolitically in a very, very difficult position just off the coast of the United States.

    North Korea has half the population of Ukraine. South Korea has twice the population of North Korea.

    They are political systems that are very balanced, too many dead soldiers (citizens) without having been attacked themselves brings with it domestic political instability. In addition, they would expose themselves to their opponent and invite them to attack.

    The only possibility is to participate via PMC Wagner. That means that the countries tolerate Wagner's recruitment...in Cuba that would be possible, in North Korea something like that is impossible.

    Thats pussy cucked thinking. LMAO at being afraid of the US attacking cuba. Russia could just send some of its frigates thereand a small troop detachment. Do you seriously believe the US will risk killing russian army and navy troops in cuba, if cuba sends its troops to ukraine. The US was too pussy to shell russian troops in syria.  Also lmao at the delusional cuck thinking that the north korea will get invaded. Helloooo? Youve heard of the NK nukes, right?
    Also north Korea is really stable. It has thousands of soldiers that are indoctrinated and ready to kill anglosaxons and their dogs.

    And I can only emphasize it again and again...war is not a movie! There are not always drones or cameras that can record everything. Many losses remain in the dark. Of course, this applies to every party of every conflict.

    Nope. If they want they can record. If ukrainian monkeys can record from close up in HD of destroying LONG RANGE russian artillery like here, so should russia.

    https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1615763761624764417?s=20&t=umIdSDvbwmoanr2LwUa_NQ



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    Post  Regular Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:59 pm

    Limb, after that hit, it’s out of action, dead, unfixable, spare parts at best.

    Those platforms, unlike towed guns, are slaved to the vehicle and there’s more to fix. 3kg of explosives to the cab turns it into tractor food.

    Ok, so finally Ukraine are getting CV-90. They are much much much better than Bradleys, but don’t get much publicity. I hope at least one gets captured.

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    Post  lyle6 Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:07 pm

    limp-dicked limb is bitching again. Must be good news all around for Russia Laughing

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    Post  limb Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:40 pm

    limp-dicked limb is bitching again.

    Thats some projection

    Those platforms, unlike towed guns, are slaved to the vehicle and there’s more to fix. 3kg of explosives to the cab turns it into tractor food.

    They an easily be transported back to poland to be put on a new truck.

    Ok, so finally Ukraine are getting CV-90. They are much much much better than Bradleys, but don’t get much publicity. I hope at least one gets captured.

    Hopefully theyre able to be easily destroyed by ATGMs and artillery.

    The main problem with the new package is more artillery than most NATO country's ever had.
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    Thats pussy cucked thinking. LMAO at being afraid of the US attacking cuba. Russia could just send some of its frigates thereand a small troop detachment. Do you seriously believe the US will risk killing russian army and navy troops in cuba, if cuba sends its troops to ukraine. The US was too pussy to shell russian troops in syria. Also lmao at the delusional cuck thinking that the north korea will get invaded. Helloooo? Youve heard of the NK nukes, right? Also north Korea is really stable. It has thousands of soldiers that are indoctrinated and ready to kill anglosaxons and their dogs. wrote:


    Cuba starting a war with USA is just as idiotic as Ukraine taking on Russia. Also why would Russia open a second front closer to the USA? I

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    Post  limb Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:57 pm

    Cuba starting a war with USA is just as idiotic as Ukraine taking on Russia. Also why would Russia open a second front closer to the USA? I
    Did you read what I wrote? I was talking about cuba sending its troops in ukraine to help russia, not attacking the US. Azi said, thats too escalatory, because if cuban troops fight against ukrainians, the US will invade cuba, which is absolutely false and a pussycucked justification for russian allies not to destroy the ukraine with russia as response to nato escalation.
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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jan 19, 2023 11:00 pm

    Polish retired brass suggested gathering Ukrainian refugees and sending them back to fight.

    Skrzypczak is a rare case of a common idiot and an example that lacking a brain never hampers a military career.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 19, 2023 11:03 pm

    Azi, whilst both Sweden and Finland are closely allied to NATO neither are actual members. They have said both or neither and Turkey is objecting to Sweden giving asylum to Turkish Terrorists i.e. Kurds.

    If Turkey says no they can't join.

    Talking about Sweden, they only have 48 Archers so they might have swcond thoughts but CV-90 should be on its way. Nice looking.

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