Russian special military operation in Ukraine #36

You would kill some 60 y/o babushka because she answered the call of her ... niece or something, telling where the outposts are?
Really?

Message clearly indicates that these people were arty spotters for Ukr army. I don't know what babushkas you're talking about.

Yes, you support the "right" side , you even hire Ukrainians to work in your business.

Because of scoundrels like you Poland is infested with them.

It does not matter.
A civilized country can jail and prosecute this type of person.
And judge in accordance with the law.

Exactly my point. Letting them go is wrong.
Right move would be to, first, proclaim martial law in warring territories. By doing that, their faith would be clear. Everyone knows how spies are treated in war. Least they should do is to exchange them for some pro-Russian people from other side.

Summary of equipment that is going to be sent by multiple countries to Ukraine in the next few months.
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/36382
Preliminary list of weapons that the West will supply to Ukraine
USA
100 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles;.....


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If you divide all this help by 6 you will see that it is not much.. Judging by the rate of destruction of the AFU before this deadline ends, they will have to do another task force....

Russia should make it clear that any weapons sent to Ukraine by western nations, will, if captured be given to govt opposition elements within those nations as indirect assistance to their bid for freedom from tyranny.

January 19, 21:11
Military operation in Ukraine

In Germany, they recalled that once they sent tanks to Russia, now the T-34s are in Berlin

As Petr Bystron, foreign policy speaker of the AfD faction in the Bundestag, noted, Ukraine cannot win a military victory over Russia, and geopolitically and economically this conflict is beneficial exclusively to the United States

BERLIN, 19 January. /TASS/. The foreign policy speaker of the Alternative for Germany (AfD) faction in the Bundestag, Petr Bystron, reminded the German parliamentarians of how the sending of German tanks to Russia [the then USSR] ended once [during World War II].

"German tanks against Russia in Ukraine. By the way, your grandfathers, along with the Melniks and Banderas, already tried to do this then, and what is the result? Unspeakable suffering, millions of deaths on both sides, and ultimately Russian tanks here in Berlin," said the deputy during a discussion in parliament on Thursday on the possible supply of Leopard-2 combat tanks to Ukraine.
"Two of them are standing side by side here, and you have to walk by every morning and remember this," Bystron said. He meant two T-34s, which are installed on the territory of the memorial to the fallen Soviet soldiers located next to the Bundestag building. The politician expressed the opinion that Ukraine cannot win a military victory over Russia. At the same time, geopolitically and economically, the conflict in Ukraine is beneficial exclusively to the United States, Bystron believes.

On Thursday, the Bundestag did not vote on the issue of providing Ukraine with Leopard-2 battle tanks. Such a vote was proposed by the opposition CDU / CSU bloc. Representatives of the ruling coalition, which includes the Social Democratic Party of Germany, the Greens and the Free Democratic Party, by a majority vote insisted that the issue be considered later in the foreign affairs committee. Also, the proposal of the conservatives was not supported by the opposition "Alternative for Germany" and the Left Party.

Even if the vote took place and the proposal was approved, it would be advisory in nature, since the issue of providing military equipment is in the hands of the German government. On Wednesday, the Süddeutsche Zeitung newspaper, citing sources, reported that German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, in a telephone conversation with US President Joe Biden, informed that Germany would agree to allow the supply of Leopard 2 battle tanks to Kiev only on the condition that the United States, for its part, provide Ukraine with tanks Abrams. As the publication clarified, the American leader in the conversation did not unequivocally confirm the US plans to transfer Abrams to Ukraine.

On January 20, a regular meeting of Western defense ministers will be held at the American Ramstein Air Base in Germany, at which further assistance to Kiev will be discussed, primarily the issue of transferring Leopard. Germany will already be represented by the new head of the Ministry of Defense, Boris Pistorius.

https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/16842545

Translated: We send you 50 tanks and 100 mopeds now you owe us 500.000 lifes.
DISGUSTING!

Poland's PM is doubling down in face of their humiliating defeat in Ukraine. If they are not ready to admit they were wrong, then WW3 might be their only option. Those clowns should be removed asap.

With no amount of smug satisfaction from yourself, no doubt?

You sure just the hardware is being deployed, and not the troops with them?

The Ukrainans will have training for all the equipment in Sweden and in the UK. Sweden will also set up a maintence and sparepart contract directly with the Ukrainian defence department to speed up delivery.

Take away the Challenger 2 and the Leopard 2 tanks I actually think the CV-90 will be one of the more lethal units on the battleground.

At this moment, a fierce battle is going on for the settlement of Krasnoe (Ivanovskoye); after the capture of Klishcheevka, the musicians moved to the tactical encirclement of the entire Artemovsk Ukrainian grouping.

The musicians have entered the houses of the southern part of Bakhmut and are making their way to Troitskaya Street, where they retired after the fall of the Opytnoe suburb

Well western weapons sure won't help Donetsk grouping that's for sure

By the time those weapons arrive, they will be useless- Ukros won't have defensive positions

There will be suicide charges into lines that are reinforced

The main threat from Ukria is terrorism at this point

They can't win a war against the musicians

Intense fighting

walle83 Today at 10:02 pm

The Ukrainans will have training for all the equipment in Sweden and in the UK. Sweden will also set up a maintence and sparepart contract directly with the Ukrainian defence department to speed up delivery.

Take away the Challenger 2 and the Leopard 2 tanks I actually think the CV-90 will be one of the more lethal units on the battleground.


I understand that you are from Sweden, but the children have gone to bed a long time ago and it is too late for Hans Christian Andersen's fairy tales...

Scholz at the polish-ukrainian border

This is true!

But the depots are almost empty and then the question arises what else can NATO do to help? Wink

If the Russian output is higher than that of western defense companies, then things could look really bad for countries like Finland and Sweden. Because at some point everyone is next to himself... and I don't think that German citizens want to die for Finland while migrants fertilize their wives at home.

It's also purely hypothetical. Putin has already made it clear that there is actually no problem with Finland and that they can do whatever they want.

The depots are not empty. There might be some high tech anti-tank weapons that needs to be replaced in the short term. But the real hardware stored in the west has almost been untouched so far. Not a single cruise missile, tank, fighter, bomber, patriot missile ecs ecs has so far been used.

If the US and whole western Europe would take on Russia, I doubt the Ruskies would last a week. However in a nuclear world this will never happen, and both sides knows it.

I understand that you are from Sweden, but the children have gone to bed a long time ago and it is too late for Hans Christian Andersen's fairy tales...

Hans Christian was Danish dumbass...

walle83 Today at 10:22 pm

I understand that you are from Sweden, but the children have gone to bed a long time ago and it is too late for Hans Christian Andersen's fairy tales...


Hans Christian was Danish dumbass...

Yes, I know he was Danish, but I was waiting for you to return the message so that I could destroy you to the end..
And how many JAS-39 planes do you think in your crappy Sweden would be destroyed by a cruise and ballistic missile attack within a couple of days ?...
Unlike Ukroshitstan, the Russians will have no mercy for you Westerners.
I see that you mentioned that Russia "wouldn't last even 7 days" even though it was because of Russia that your shithole Sweden lost its status as a great European power.

-- GEROMAN -- time will tell - --
@GeromanAT


-- GEROMAN -- time will tell - --
@GeromanAT
I think the main goal of RF is not taking on Bakhmut from the south but securing the SW flanks and going for
Chasiv Yar




At many fronts are currently being attacked. Is that the start of the winter offensive?

walle83 wrote:
Not a single cruise missile, tank, fighter, bomber, patriot missile ecs ecs has so far been used.

If the US and whole western Europe would take on Russia, I doubt the Ruskies would last a week. However in a nuclear world this will never happen, and both sides knows it.

There's a reason they don't send it

Because just like this equipment will be destroyed, so would those

And this trope about "not lasting a week"

Hitler and Napoleon thought the same thing ,

Except this time the west is too scared to try it, and nukes have nothing to do with it

When S400 is shooting down jets from 250km away
There's no use to sending jets that cost 100 million each

And if the west has no airpower, after the first 10,000 dead, they won't be stupid enough to charge artillery walls like Ukros do, so in that sense the west would avoid massive casualties

But they wouldn't even get past Kaliningrad before they start considering using b61

But with s500 they really need to consider what the consequences of losing a nuclear war could be

Also, Finland and Sweden are not yet in NATO - watch it or you could be next, tractors one day Stockholm the next