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    Post  caveat emptor Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:36 pm


    You would kill some 60 y/o babushka because she answered the call of her ... niece or something, telling where the outposts are?
    Really?
    Message clearly indicates that these people were arty spotters for Ukr army. I don't know what babushkas you're talking about.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:42 pm

    It does not matter.
    A civilized country can jail and prosecute this type of person.
    And judge in accordance with the law.
    That is what they are doing, and that is the difference between mob lynching people called "thieves" or whatever. Or SBU execution squads kidnapping&killing the opposition.
    Again, I am glad to support the right side, that do carry as a civilized one.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:49 pm




    Yes, you support the "right" side , you even hire Ukrainians to work in your business.

    Because of scoundrels like you Poland is infested with them.




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    Post  caveat emptor Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:54 pm

    It does not matter.
    A civilized country can jail and prosecute this type of person.
    And judge in accordance with the law.
    Exactly my point. Letting them go is wrong.
    Right move would be to, first, proclaim martial law in warring territories. By doing that, their faith would be clear. Everyone knows how spies are treated in war. Least they should do is to exchange them for some pro-Russian people from other side.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:59 pm

    Take a different perspective.
    They have been expelled, with no right to return to Russia.
    Jailing them would cost the Russian taxpayers.

    I really consider this quite an effective measure to lower the problems with optimized expenses and yapping.

    Edit :
    Ad rem, finally ...

    Please correct me if I/m wrong ...

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    Isn't that the same building, that was presented very early in the conflict as "bombed by the evil Russkies"?
    While the Ukrs were stupid enough to upload a vid how a Grad was taken out in front of it, while a secondary explosion did the damage? dunno

    Anyway, it shows that for almost a year, they have not made a simple cleaning&deconstruction of a building in the middle of a town they claimed own.
    Just take a look at Mariopol ...
    Unfuckinbelievable.

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:58 pm

    Sweden just announced it will send 50 CV90s, more NLW (RB57) and up to 24 Archer Artillery System to Ukraine.

    With no amount of smug satisfaction from yourself, no doubt?

    You sure just the hardware is being deployed, and not the troops with them?
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    Post  ludovicense Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:02 pm

    Summary of equipment that is going to be sent by multiple countries to Ukraine in the next few months.
    https://t.me/RVvoenkor/36382
    ‼Preliminary list of weapons that the West will supply to Ukraine
    USA
    ▪ 100 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles;....
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    .......................

    If you divide all this help by 6 you will see that it is not much.. Judging by the rate of destruction of the AFU before this deadline ends, they will have to do another task force....

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:05 pm

    Gangs in Marseille appreciate the new deliveries.
    They will win a war with the French army in a moment Laughing

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:09 pm

    I didn't even know you were Polish either honestly.

    But yeah, it isn't even US propaganda and what not. Poland always had its beef with Russia for longer than any one of us or our grandparents been alive. Only way is to try and build relations with new people where maybe both sides can look past the issues of the past.

    But I doubt it.

    It's all ancient history to be honest. Artificially kept alive by Anglo-American agitation together with their loyal Polish elites.

    Russia and Poland last had their beef during the Polish-Soviet war; that's the last time they actually fought each other. It's like saying the British and Irish still have some sort of animosity. The 'animosity' between Russia and Poland today is purely a function of being on different sides of the geopolitical divide; it's all talk and nothing more.

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    Post  mnztr Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:25 pm

    Russia should make it clear that any weapons sent to Ukraine by western nations, will, if captured be given to govt opposition elements within those nations as indirect assistance to their bid for freedom from tyranny.
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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:36 pm

    January 19, 21:11
    Military operation in Ukraine

    In Germany, they recalled that once they sent tanks to Russia, now the T-34s are in Berlin

    As Petr Bystron, foreign policy speaker of the AfD faction in the Bundestag, noted, Ukraine cannot win a military victory over Russia, and geopolitically and economically this conflict is beneficial exclusively to the United States


    BERLIN, 19 January. /TASS/. The foreign policy speaker of the Alternative for Germany (AfD) faction in the Bundestag, Petr Bystron, reminded the German parliamentarians of how the sending of German tanks to Russia [the then USSR] ended once [during World War II].

    "German tanks against Russia in Ukraine. By the way, your grandfathers, along with the Melniks and Banderas, already tried to do this then, and what is the result? Unspeakable suffering, millions of deaths on both sides, and ultimately Russian tanks here in Berlin," said the deputy during a discussion in parliament on Thursday on the possible supply of Leopard-2 combat tanks to Ukraine.
    "Two of them are standing side by side here, and you have to walk by every morning and remember this," Bystron said. He meant two T-34s, which are installed on the territory of the memorial to the fallen Soviet soldiers located next to the Bundestag building. The politician expressed the opinion that Ukraine cannot win a military victory over Russia. At the same time, geopolitically and economically, the conflict in Ukraine is beneficial exclusively to the United States, Bystron believes.


    On Thursday, the Bundestag did not vote on the issue of providing Ukraine with Leopard-2 battle tanks. Such a vote was proposed by the opposition CDU / CSU bloc. Representatives of the ruling coalition, which includes the Social Democratic Party of Germany, the Greens and the Free Democratic Party, by a majority vote insisted that the issue be considered later in the foreign affairs committee. Also, the proposal of the conservatives was not supported by the opposition "Alternative for Germany" and the Left Party.

    Even if the vote took place and the proposal was approved, it would be advisory in nature, since the issue of providing military equipment is in the hands of the German government. On Wednesday, the Süddeutsche Zeitung newspaper, citing sources, reported that German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, in a telephone conversation with US President Joe Biden, informed that Germany would agree to allow the supply of Leopard 2 battle tanks to Kiev only on the condition that the United States, for its part, provide Ukraine with tanks Abrams. As the publication clarified, the American leader in the conversation did not unequivocally confirm the US plans to transfer Abrams to Ukraine.

    On January 20, a regular meeting of Western defense ministers will be held at the American Ramstein Air Base in Germany, at which further assistance to Kiev will be discussed, primarily the issue of transferring Leopard. Germany will already be represented by the new head of the Ministry of Defense, Boris Pistorius.

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    Post  Hole Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:48 pm

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    Translated: We send you 50 tanks and 100 mopeds now you owe us 500.000 lifes.
    DISGUSTING!

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    Post  SolidarityWithRussia Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:57 pm

    Poland's PM is doubling down in face of their humiliating defeat in Ukraine. If they are not ready to admit they were wrong, then WW3 might be their only option. Those clowns should be removed asap.

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    Post  walle83 Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:02 pm

    With no amount of smug satisfaction from yourself, no doubt?

    You sure just the hardware is being deployed, and not the troops with them?

    Wink

    The Ukrainans will have training for all the equipment in Sweden and in the UK. Sweden will also set up a maintence and sparepart contract directly with the Ukrainian defence department to speed up delivery.

    Take away the Challenger 2 and the Leopard 2 tanks I actually think the CV-90 will be one of the more lethal units on the battleground.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:13 pm

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    ⚡At this moment, a fierce battle is going on for the settlement of Krasnoe (Ivanovskoye); after the capture of Klishcheevka, the musicians moved to the tactical encirclement of the entire Artemovsk Ukrainian grouping.⚡
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    💥💥💥The musicians have entered the houses of the southern part of Bakhmut and are making their way to Troitskaya Street, where they retired after the fall of the Opytnoe suburb💥💥💥

    Well western weapons sure won't help Donetsk grouping that's for sure

    By the time those weapons arrive, they will be useless- Ukros won't have defensive positions

    There will be suicide charges into lines that are reinforced

    The main threat from Ukria is terrorism at this point

    They can't win a war against the musicians

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    Post  Hole Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:16 pm

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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:17 pm

    walle83 Today at 10:02 pm

    The Ukrainans will have training for all the equipment in Sweden and in the UK. Sweden will also set up a maintence and sparepart contract directly with the Ukrainian defence department to speed up delivery.

    Take away the Challenger 2 and the Leopard 2 tanks I actually think the CV-90 will be one of the more lethal units on the battleground.



    I understand that you are from Sweden, but the children have gone to bed a long time ago and it is too late for Hans Christian Andersen's fairy tales... unshaven

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    Post  Hole Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:18 pm

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    Scholz at the polish-ukrainian border

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    Post  walle83 Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:19 pm

    This is true!

    But the depots are almost empty and then the question arises what else can NATO do to help? Wink

    If the Russian output is higher than that of western defense companies, then things could look really bad for countries like Finland and Sweden. Because at some point everyone is next to himself... and I don't think that German citizens want to die for Finland while migrants fertilize their wives at home.

    It's also purely hypothetical. Putin has already made it clear that there is actually no problem with Finland and that they can do whatever they want.

    The depots are not empty. There might be some high tech anti-tank weapons that needs to be replaced in the short term. But the real hardware stored in the west has almost been untouched so far. Not a single cruise missile, tank, fighter, bomber, patriot missile ecs ecs has so far been used.

    If the US and whole western Europe would take on Russia, I doubt the Ruskies would last a week. However in a nuclear world this will never happen, and both sides knows it.

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    Post  walle83 Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:22 pm

    I understand that you are from Sweden, but the children have gone to bed a long time ago and it is too late for Hans Christian Andersen's fairy tales...

    Hans Christian was Danish dumbass...

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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:29 pm

    walle83 Today at 10:22 pm

    I understand that you are from Sweden, but the children have gone to bed a long time ago and it is too late for Hans Christian Andersen's fairy tales...


    Hans Christian was Danish dumbass...


    Yes, I know he was Danish, but I was waiting for you to return the message so that I could destroy you to the end..
    And how many JAS-39 planes do you think in your crappy Sweden would be destroyed by a cruise and ballistic missile attack within a couple of days ?...
    Unlike Ukroshitstan, the Russians will have no mercy for you Westerners.
    I see that you mentioned that Russia "wouldn't last even 7 days" even though it was because of Russia that your shithole Sweden lost its status as a great European power.

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    I think the main goal of RF is not taking on Bakhmut from the south but securing the SW flanks and going for
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    At many fronts are currently being attacked. Is that the start of the winter offensive?

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:37 pm

    walle83 wrote:
    Not a single cruise missile, tank, fighter, bomber, patriot missile ecs ecs has so far been used.

    If the US and whole western Europe would take on Russia, I doubt the Ruskies would last a week. However in a nuclear world this will never happen, and both sides knows it.

    There's a reason they don't send it

    Because just like this equipment will be destroyed, so would those

    And this trope about "not lasting a week"

    Hitler and Napoleon thought the same thing ,

    Except this time the west is too scared to try it, and nukes have nothing to do with it

    When S400 is shooting down jets from 250km away
    There's no use to sending jets that cost 100 million each

    And if the west has no airpower, after the first 10,000 dead, they won't be stupid enough to charge artillery walls like Ukros do, so in that sense the west would avoid massive casualties

    But they wouldn't even get past Kaliningrad before they start considering using b61

    But with s500 they really need to consider what the consequences of losing a nuclear war could be

    Also, Finland and Sweden are not yet in NATO - watch it or you could be next, tractors one day Stockholm the next Laughing


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