Russian special military operation in Ukraine #39

@AZgeopolitics
"Get out of our territory, stop bombing us, killing civilians, destroying our infrastructure,energy,stop bombing cities and villages, burn forests - that's all, you stop, and only then we will tell you in what format we will diplomatically put a point." - Zelensky

Isn't it what the novorossians asked th Kiev regime for 8 years?

About the 13th Gamekeeper Brigade, being formed in the Kiev area.


Is the "gamekeeper" really jager?


During Second World War, the jager units in the Wehrmacht were a type of "hill infantry" that was in-between the conventional infantry and the outright mountain troops. Supposedly they had a "semi-elite" status in the German military.




They are sometimes described as "light" divisions, and a bunch of them were used by the Germans in Yugoslavia:

http://www.vojska.net/eng/world-war-2/germany/division/


The correct translation into English is "hunter" not "light" or "gamekeeper."

rollstoy
@Trollstoy88
"There is no big point handing over tanks and fighter jets to Ukraine," US presidential national security adviser Jake Sullivan told CNN.

"Joe Biden has heard the military's view that Abrams tanks make no real sense for these battles. The Ukrainians need Leopard tanks," he said.

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Germany fools...

24.02.2022 Beginning of the operation entrance to the Sumy region

https://m.vk.com/video-206639135_456265787

Still with health issues but got somewhat better and translated an edited a interesting self-critique of a Russian colonel about the failures of the Special Military Operation. Is quite hardcore and food for thought, not an easy read, but I tried my best to translate and comment on it

https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2023/02/24/clausewitz-y-el-vacio-razones-del-fracaso-de-la-operacion-especial/

And in Kharkov, many hotels are hastily converted into hospitals.

Plus, as before, both lines of defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the west of the Pechenegsky reservoir are hastily equipped with new fortifications.

So every settlement just has to be destroyed i guess

Road is under fire control

@Ispan
Very good translation and corresponding analysis. I've seen first part of the Pinchuk's text, but I've struggled with it. Thank you!

First leopard tank apparently have arrived in Ukraine. With huge manpower and a lot of gear from west let’s be real, it will be a force not to be underestimated. Time will tell.

Odin of Ossetia wrote:About the 13th Gamekeeper Brigade, being formed in the Kiev area.
Is the "gamekeeper" really jager?
During Second World War, the jager units in the Wehrmacht were a type of "hill infantry" that was in-between the conventional infantry and the outright mountain troops. Supposedly they had a "semi-elite" status in the German military.
They are sometimes described as "light" divisions, and a bunch of them were used by the Germans in Yugoslavia:
http://www.vojska.net/eng/world-war-2/germany/division/
The correct translation into English is "hunter" not "light" or "gamekeeper."

About every country has their own name.
Here in Italy you are precisely describing the Bersaglieri (light infantry, running always, never marching, operate on hills and so on), in France they are Chasseurs or Voltigers, in english, sharpshooters or just Light infantry, Austria-Hungary had the schuetzen (in austrian part) and the grenzers (in Hungary or better said in Vojska Krajna) respectively.
They had origin in the musket era, where they were the ones that didn't fought usually fought in file and ranks but scattered, hence the bugle as an ordinary way to give order and one of their most used symbols.

RF Battle footage of Maryinka wrote:

The sheer scale of destruction is mindblowing

@Ispan
Still with health issues but got somewhat better and translated an edited a interesting self-critique of a Russian colonel about the failures of the Special Military Operation. Is quite hardcore and food for thought, not an easy read, but I tried my best to translate and comment on it

From the report

Izyum itself was an important strategic hub connecting Donbass and Kharkiv, and allowed, in theory, Russian forces to close the encirclement of the largest grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbas. Its abandonment led to the collapse of the entire Kharkiv direction, the loss of Kupyansk, Balakleya and a large number of other settlements, strengthened the offensive capabilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and created a springboard for a strike in the direction of the Lugansk Republic. In fact, this retreat marked Russia's transition from an offensive operation to a viscous and unstable defense.

Raisins have become a prime example of mistakes in tactics, failures due to systemic lies in reports, weak motivation and problems of using forces for their intended purpose. It was in Izyum, which came under the control of the Russian army at the end of March, that the Russian group rolled back from near Kharkov.

Raisins have become a prime example of mistakes in tactics, failures due to systemic lies in reports, weak motivation and problems of using forces for their intended purpose.

The start of the SMO was an overly complicated mission with too many moving parts coupled with a massive intelligence failure at the start. And not half enough men and machine dedicated to it or in reserve in case something went wrong.

But a report like this over analyses the small things and misappropriates the causes in a overly complicated mish mash of criticisms. Instead of just zooming out and realizing that they just didn't dedicate enough men to the mission. If there was 2-3 times more men deployed in the initial attack, would any of the retreats happen ? Not likely.

But there was good reason for why the Russian govt went in as lean as possible. Even the Russian ministry of finance has 10% plus GDP contractions build into their models as the result of the sanctions war. And for awhile there, the Russian Ruble was in freefall.

So I just don't find these 2020 hindsight grand criticisms that useful or compelling. Would it have succeeded if there was less liars and better motivation ? No.

The question is, would it succeed with the idiotic attitude of field officers discussed there? I pointed out one of the videos where a fortified position was assaulted in an utterly shambolic manner. It was successful but could easily have been a slaughter. To win in war you need to deal with the obvious and known risks as there are so many unpredictable elements. Its quite depressing to read about the soviet style incompetence and corruption.

Soviet style incompetence?
If Soviets were fighting Ukraine, we would have closed this thread 3 months after first shots.

OMG > BTG

Speaking of over analyzing small things and misappropriating the causes :

mnztr

I pointed out one of the videos where a fortified position was assaulted in an utterly shambolic manner.

So if the SMO had less idiotic attitudes of field officers , then it would have succeeded just as planned. This is exactly the autistic 6th columnist revanchist nonsense that I am talking about

Its quite depressing to read about the soviet style incompetence and corruption.

yeah Ukraine's counter attacks succeeded because they have less incompetence and corruption.

The SMO didn't go as planned because there wasn't enough men.

SMO was based on assumptions that Zelensky was in charge. 

And Soviets had their weights of fighting war. Manpower wouldn’t be an issue, nor would they **** about with defintions like SMO.

SMO was based on assumptions that Zelensky was in charge. And Soviets had their weights of fighting war. Manpower wouldn’t be an issue, nor would they **** about with defintions like SMO. wrote:

They did and it was an appalling waste of life. Even as they crushed the germans they paid a horrific and unnecessary price. I still wonder if they are doing it again and I really wonder if focusing their efforts on closing the border would not have been better. But then again, a quick win would not allow them to inflict the attrition on the AFU that they did. OTOH the ones they are killing now are mostly happless conscript cannon fodder so its better that they use the quickest means possible to defeat Ukraine. Every highway and bridge crossing the border should be attacked daily. Cut of the diesel, end the war.

The first Polish Leopard 2 arrived in Ukraine. Of course, the question is why Russia does not destroy weapons transports from the West crossing the border with Ukraine? wrote:

Anyone know the variant? I am guessing its the 2M4 which an RPG can take out. Gonna be interesting to see how these behemoths handle bridges in Ukraine.

I span your translation is good. Your comments are extremely astute and I agree with most of what you say. Very good stuff.

This war is serious stuff, and no Russia certainly has a steep hill to climb. That said I am still sure that Russia has a firm handle on what is currently going on and what is to come.


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Reading the replies to that tweet gave me fucking aids. The delusion is horrific. And witnessing the subtle and not so subtle way twitter hides thoughtful posts while holding up highly propagandistic posts and replies is depressing and scary. There are so many that still believe our media is free and that we are shaping ideas and communication. If one is just a little observant they see that the narrative is completely shaped by media and the medium itself, and those who are shaping it are very, very evil people.

Ffs this conflict has shown me just how utterly controlled our society is, and just how good our elites are at making people feel like they are in control. I think I'm going to take a break from the internet for a day or two. Sometimes I think the veil between the natural and preternatural is blurring and we are witnessing embodied evil guiding evil people and evil systems at the very top.