Russian special military operation in Ukraine #39

Ukrainian T-72 destroyed by a drone throwing a grenade through the hatch

If today's terrorist attack isn't a wake up call for Russian security structures, i don't know what it will be. By pure luck, there was no more civilian casualties.
In order to fully denazify Ukraine, they need to start to kill people at the top, like Budanov, Danilov et al and then continue to go lower. Leave Zelensky unharmed as someone needs to sign surrender. Ukrainian state structures were completely scrubbed last 8-9 years and all positions of power are held by rabid nationalists. Military victory will not be enough if these people manage to escape.
Russians have experience with dealing with terrorists, with one big difference being that these terrorists are part of actual state structures. It is time for politicians to ditch their preconceived delusions and give free reins on destroying terrorists. Otherwise, we will be looking at another repeat of Beslan or even something worse.

If today's terrorist attack isn't a wake up call for Russian security structures, i don't know what it will be.

But you DO realize, that the village we talk about is literally 150m from the Ukrainian border, do you?



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Those thugs just came in, shoot the civilian car passing by, made some stupid films, and retreated because FSB was on their tail already?

And both (was there more?) stupid enough to model are already recognized and on hunt?

There should be a DMZ zone 300km from the border

Otherwise they can keep doing this bs

Not only DRG terror groups but also missile strikes and even basic artillery and rocket impacts

These are all semantics. They attacked civilians on Russian proper. There was no military objectives in the village. For that alone, they need to be treated like Chechen Ichkerians or ISIS. These people don't operate on their own, they are part of structure. In this case, most likely, GUR or SBU. To destroy terrorists, you need to destroy bosses, not minions.
Otherwise, you'll get escalation and more brazen acts will follow.

From technical perspective, they seems to be part of Ukro Army. So they have invaded Russian soil. So IT is not a terrorist attack.
The fact that I agree with you is irrelevant to this.

The BTR-50´s could be the UR-67 mine clearing version, the predecessor of the UR-77.



Wagner close to the centre of Bahmut.

Moving towards Kupyansk

Its a war, Ukraine cannot "invade" Russian soil, anywhere or place in russia is fair game, it's a war. Just like anyplace in Ukraine is fair game, If russia wants to stop ukraine from attacking, then it needs to defeat them.

Even in defeat they can go into exile, regroup and continue their terrorist activities against Russia. Easiest thing to do - esp if you have the CIA backing you.

But that is nothing new bro.
The Ukro insurgency was carried well into the 50s as a tool of hurting the SU.
That is why I hardly believe in occupying the whole 404 strategy.
The best case scenario would be making it a landlocked shithole with 10 mln inhabitants, curved to the Dnepr and the whole of the south up tp Danube delta.
And build a wall across, from Dnestr to Dnepr, from west to east.
And I mean it.
Ukro economy is non existing now, and its demography is dead meat either.
One of the Ukrainian families I have here act as a transit point for all the relatives they can take out of it.
We have just figured that out, as water usage raised drastically.
So they admitted that now there are six additional people living with them, and the situation is stable, when the group will be able to take care of their own, new will arrive.
They just rotate, hardly any of their relatives were left in 404.

Its a war, Ukraine cannot "invade" Russian soil, anywhere or place in russia is fair game, it's a war.

Yes, you are right, this is what I have said.
No matter how cowardly the act was, it was carried by the structures formally being Ukrowehrmacht.
The only thing that can be potentially investigated is killing civilians, but it is very hard to prove they did that deliberately.
Of course, they did, still, the laws of war apply.

Edit : the third out of four thugs stupid enough to show themselves is identified.
A nazi thug nicknamed "Fortuna". So only one left.
I still don't get that.
How much stupid one must be, to evidence your own crimes, and upload it to the Internet.
All on their own.

Edit 2 : and new pictures were revealed from Artemovsk/Ukr side.
Same standard as was made in Mariopol and Soledar just before the fall.
Hospitals, dozens of wounded, very pictures, graphic and heroic.
So if you ask me if it is what it is, I suppose it is.

I still don't get that.
How much stupid one must be, to evidence your own crimes, and upload it to the Internet.

For some they are terrorists - for others they are heroic freedom fighters.

Nah, but that applies to multiple cases bro, not this one only.
Ukrs are really stupid enough to document own crimes, air it, and pretend that nothing happened.

Like the info about castrating the POWs.
It is being played in Europe as a part of antiRussian narrative, and they are being blamed for that.
While a guy who was in a position of supervising the military medics was kind enough to make this statement on the Ukro TV.
How he gave AN ORDER to castrate the Russian POWs.

That is jumping out of a box, and I would call it some type of mental issue. But if seen once. And not again, and again, and again.
They are sick people. Medically sick.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Its a war, Ukraine cannot "invade" Russian soil, anywhere or place in russia is fair game, it's a war. Just like anyplace in Ukraine is fair game, If russia wants to stop ukraine from attacking, then it needs to defeat them.

Absolutely right! But shooting at civilians, especially children, is a war crime.

But the media of the West cover up every heinous act of the Ukronazis.

ALAMO wrote:That is jumping out of a box, and I would call it some type of mental issue. But if seen once. And not again, and again, and again.
They are sick people. Medically sick.

They are hardcore Nazis full of hate. This hatred leads them to do the most cruel things. The only medicine against it is to send all Nazis who come to the front to the afterlife.

sepheronx wrote:So the first narrative is to push that "Russia is dumb, incapable, poor, badly developed, weak" in order to show that this Axis of Evil is already bad and incapable of being a threat to drive countries away from them. They go after Russia though because they thought Russian's were dumb enough to fall for the same mistakes of the 90's. They ended up being wrong but will continue this mantra. You will see them use it towards Iran (again) and then China next.

The problem with the whole thing is that this narrative wasn't even used against Iraq, the Taliban or ISIS. A general and "military expert" recently said on a German TV channel that the Russian army is incredibly weak and incapable... just a joke.

How do you get away from the narrative? I think it's impossible! West losing against drinking, dumb, retarded Untermenschen, a desolate army with only junk and crap? The West has maneuvered itself into a corner from which it can no longer get out. There is only one option left... escalation!

Arestovich recently said that the West is trying to provoke Russia into a nuclear strike. Thus, it could force Russia's trading partners to stop doing business with Russia...regime change would come closer.

Unfortunately, the West only has these two options, escalation or such an extreme face-losing defeat that Western political and economic dominance in the world will collapse. But after all, I trust Western journalists and the media to present everything as it suits them and to tell the population fairy tales. The US isn't the land of lies for nothing a beacon of hope at least ;D haha.

The success of SMO , in my view so far is 50% to 60% . You know what would have been a defeat ? A defeat would have been for Russia to do nothing , faced with Artillery attacks on it's soil by the Orcs and imminent attack on Donnbas , followed no doubt by Orcs driving up to Russia border . Then this type of terror attacks against civilians on Russian soil , would have been repeated many times . Agree with Ark that a defensive DMZ needs to be established all along Russia border with Ukrs , deep enough at least to stop Artillery attacks ..

There are also such voices in Russia.

Mir wrote:Even in defeat they can go into exile, regroup and continue their terrorist activities against Russia. Easiest thing to do - esp if you have the CIA backing you.

Well, it did not have a good ending for the anti russian Chechens.
After killing Akhmad kadirov Chechenia has not been anymore a safe place for them (as many that before agreed with them started instead to reconcile with the central russian government) . It is true that they have been more or less active still for a few years but now Chechenia is a safe place and there is no danger of chechen terrorism in Russia.

There could be still people unsatisfied with the current status, but not to the points of being dangerous militants or terrorists. Those are either dead or in France (or Belgium).

Of course it has not been easy and both russian federal police and the new Chechen authorities have been busy in removing the threat.

The same thing can be done in Novorossia, Malorossia and Krasnaya Rus (Red Ruthenia or Rus chervona).

Of course it takes time and it is not easy, and this is probably one of the reasons for which Russia is not in hurry of defeating the 404 regime ( as now can can deal with them in the open).

The drone flies and lands on the A-50U radar. This shows how dangerous drones are. If it had a small explosive charge, it could do a lot of damage. You can drive close to the base and send such a small drone. This is a serious problem for all armies.

UPA fought against the Soviets into the 1950's not only because they enjoyed a significant support in the western Ukraine, but also because the Soviets treated them like they were some sort of hot shits who cannot be cracked down on too hard. Check my post from months ago about the events after WW2 in the Hrubieszow area in Poland.


It is similar to the treatment of Ukraine by Russia in the recent years, even after Ukraine became openly hostile to the Russians since 2014, after all the fighting and hate directed at the Russians, Russia still supplied them with lots of free money and free natural gas.



http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/302/ukraine-participated-invasion-south-ossetia

Large explosion reported in Kolomna in the Moscow region. "The whistle was heard, then the explosion was obvious. First there was smoke, then such a glow."

If America supports ie performs Ukrainian TERRORIST attacks vs Russia, then America is communicating one thing to Russia.

America and Russia are NOT allies against terrorism. But Russia is the victim of American terrorism and should act accordingly.

America and Russia are NOT allies against terrorism.

No shit!
Really?!?
You have a good freezer there, can you share the model name?
Thanx!

Both America and Russia claim that they still share information with the other, on planned terrorist attacks.
This was reported in MSM in the past 2 or 3 weeks or so.
This was from the days of Al Qaeda and ISIS (both created by the USA of course).

However, such an "agreement" is obviously pointless if only attacks on the USA have information shared.

That was the point of my post.
So.. the question is... what is Russia going to do about American terrorist attacks?