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    Post  ALAMO Thu Mar 02, 2023 10:09 pm

    So.. the question is... what is Russia going to do about American terrorist attacks?

    Perfectly nothing on a scale you expect.
    Because Russia is NOT a terrorist state.
    And that is the point where other countries spot the difference.

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    Post  Hole Thu Mar 02, 2023 10:27 pm

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    **** Nazis
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    Chuba guards the position.

    It´s said that the "strike at Kolomna" piece is garbage. The glowing comes from streetlights (plus cold weather and mist).

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    Post  Backman Fri Mar 03, 2023 12:53 am

    New post from Serge.

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    Post  Regular Fri Mar 03, 2023 2:07 am

    Cross border attacks are not rare, Ukrainians shell Russian territory all the time. Civilians get killed all the time.
    This incursion wasn’t terrorist attack as it could turned into much more nastier thing (they are absolutely capable of terorrism)
    As far as I understand it was just glorified photo-op in a wake of Bakhmut failure. Some of the memebers of that group were ID as Russian nazis fighting for UA.

    Sad about civilians killed and it was a war crime, but their main target was even less importance than Chechen raids on Nalchik back in the days. Russian should evacuate those small villages or even better - gauge territory from ukraine for DMZ

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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Mar 03, 2023 2:48 am

    Backman wrote:Nato is going all in on Bakhmut. They seemed to believe they could hold it. I thought it was just some stupid plan and bloody outburst because they seem to like killing as much Ukrainians as possible. But no. The arrogant bastards really are this desperate to hold it

    Good. These little HATO fuktardz and their Ukrop minions will cry like busted-arse whores when Russia liberates Artemovsk and eliminates the AFU cannon fodder that have been abandoned there.

    The more the Nazis want to keep Artemovsk the more Russia needs to take it from them. attack

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    Post  GarryB Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:38 am

    These vehicle troop doors and situated on the roof if I remember not easy sticking a stretcher onto a roof and down into the vehicle

    They are old school troop transports that carried 18 or 20 troops on bench seats..., but roof mounted hatches only would not be ideal.

    Their introduction could be used for other purposes perhaps freeing other vehicles that could be used to carry wounded instead then.

    As far as strategic importance, Bakhmut holds little value,  and that's why wagner is devoted to this secondary objective

    Part of its value is that Kiev keeps sending soldiers there to be used recklessly to keep hold of it, which makes it a good area to grind the Orcs numbers.

    In order to do what you want, you need to force a military victory over Ukraine and in order to do that land must be taken, so yes Again Bakhmut is important

    Agree, but don't confuse important with urgent.

    From technical perspective, they seems to be part of Ukro Army. So they have invaded Russian soil. So IT is not a terrorist attack.
    The fact that I agree with you is irrelevant to this.

    Alamo is correct, this is not terrorism, but the intentional targeting of civilians by a military with no military objectives is a war crime.

    For some they are terrorists - for others they are heroic freedom fighters.

    Heroic fighters kill enemy soldiers and destroy the enemies potential to invade your country... they don't mount cross border raids to shoot civilians picking kids up from school.

    Ukrs are really stupid enough to document own crimes, air it, and pretend that nothing happened.

    To be clear the Orcs commit crimes against anything and everything Russian and civilian targets are the softest targets they are most likely to get away with at the time... and that includes their own people who want to speak Russian and don't universally hate everything Russian so we are talking about Ukrainian and Russian civilians, so they air it thinking it is a great victory killing the enemy and are likely surprised when some westerners point out that shooting unarmed civilians is not really very heroic at all and amounts to what serial killers do, or idiot losers on some shooting rampage. Shooting non combatants is also a war crime too...

    Then this type of terror attacks against civilians on Russian soil , would have been repeated many times .

    Border attacks against civilians have been going on the last 9 years, this is just evidence that Ukraine is not really a country... it is not even a horse militia... and it is time it was dealt to... which is what Russia is currently doing, but that can't be done over night.

    The orcs are doing scummy things but they are nazis and that is what nazis do even when they are winning... when they are losing they are worse....

    Regard US support for terrorism Russia will be taking note of who is responsible, just like for the last decade or more they have been taking note of who said what and who did what in the conflict Kiev has been having with its own breakaway regions and since this conflict started.

    It might not be years before they can do anything about it, but just as easily it could be tomorrow.

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    Post  Mir Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:35 am

    Alamo wrote:They are sick people. Medically sick.

    Oh yeah - no doubt about that.
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    Post  Mir Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:35 am

    Arrow wrote:The drone flies and lands on the A-50U radar. This shows how dangerous drones are. If it had a small explosive charge, it could do a lot of damage. You can drive close to the base and send such a small drone. This is a serious problem for all armies.

    Incredible footage!

    These aircraft are of significant strategic value. One should expect a security detachment nearby looking out for exactly this type of threat.
    Then again they just fired a number of soldiers at a nuclear base in the USA for failing the security grade dunno


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    Post  Mir Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:36 am

    R_R wrote:Well, it did not have a good ending for the anti russian Chechens.
    After killing Akhmad kadirov Chechenia has not been anymore a safe place for them (as many that before agreed with them started instead to reconcile with the central russian government) . It is true that they have been more or less active still for a few years but now Chechenia is a safe place and there is no danger of chechen terrorism in Russia.

    There could be still people unsatisfied with the current status, but not to the points of being dangerous militants or terrorists. Those are either dead or in France (or Belgium).

    Of course it has not been easy and both russian federal police and the new Chechen authorities have been busy in removing the threat.

    The same thing can be done in Novorossia, Malorossia and Krasnaya Rus (Red Ruthenia or Rus chervona).

    Of course it takes time and it is not easy, and this is probably one of the reasons for which Russia is not in hurry of defeating the 404 regime ( as now can can deal with them in the open).

    Putin made a good deal with the Chechens and it paid off. It might end the same way for the Nazis, but I have some doubts. I would not be in the least surprised if the Baltic States (or at least one of them) would allow radical elements to use their territory as a springboard for terror activities against Russia in the near future.

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:54 am

    Mir wrote:Putin made a good deal with the Chechens and it paid off. It might end the same way for the Nazis, but I have some doubts. I would not be in the least surprised if the Baltic States (or at least one of them) would allow radical elements to use their territory as a springboard for terror activities against Russia in the near future.
    if the Baltic statelets really do this, they have signed their end.

    Bush had much less justification to attack Iraq and Afghanistan than Russia would have if the Baltic statelets (or even Finland) starts to play dirty games.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:19 am

    Incredible footage!

    These aircraft are of significant strategic value. One should expect a security detachment nearby looking out for exactly this type of threat.
    Then again they just fired a number of soldiers at a nuclear base in the USA for failing the security grade dunno


    Nobody has.
    Just take a look at the flight path.
    It was a small, commercial toy drone flying at 10m max, and glued to the airstrip for most of the path.
    Can be operated at a distance of maybe 3-4 km at most.
    This is how it is carried. A single guy with a box in his backpack takes a bike ride across the field, stops in a bush or forest 2km from a base, and releases this toy.
    Some measures will be taken for sure, but I guess it will take a moment.
    The very same type of peremoga at Engels was spotted by the guards who shoot the drone dead a while ago.

    I was looking at the RUS/UKR border concerning yesterday's infiltration, and the conclusion is quite interesting.
    This border is mostly unsecured.
    If you roll down its flow, you can spot cropped fields that are located on the both sides, with an obvious traces of harvesters operating while crossing the border multiple times, in both directions.
    Yup, there are several border crossings, but tens of roads that just pass. Or fields or forests.
    This particular village was carefully planned, as it really lies 50-150m from the border, and there is a road to it from the Ukrainian territory. Jump in-jump out-make TikTok.

    Those actions carried lately are acts of desperation, as more and more signals are being provided that Ze Wezt is getting tired of this whole shit.  
    US based democrat oriented titles are starting to rumor that the supply is not unlimited, the will is not unlimited, and they expect returns on investments.
    It was yesterday that some D senator said that maybe they should consider stopping supplying Ukrs for free Laughing

    To be clear the Orcs commit crimes against anything and everything Russian and civilian targets are the softest targets they are most likely to get away with at the time...


    Well, I am not talking about this type of war crime, but the general situation.
    Believe me or not, but debunking the Ukro lies does not require using a single Russian provided source.
    Ukrs are a gold mine for documenting their crimes.
    And it was that way from the very beginning.

    The very first material about "Russkie mordor horde" was released as early as in Feb22, and was covering ... Bucha.
    Ukrs were yapping about Russian soldiers killing the civis there.
    And at exactly the same moment, they proudly presented a whole panorama of the city villa suburbs smashed with Grad salvos, to present how they annihilated the incoming VDV column.

    This thug who was interviewed in Ukro TV, citing his order to castrate the Russian POWs ... Pure gold! Who would have believed that, if appeared on Russian TV?!?

    Mrs. Denisova? Jesus Fukin' Christ, to present some gore pedophile porn scenarios to the European officials? Laughing
    While the spokesperson of the Ukraine General Prosecutor debunked that ON LIVE? Laughing
    In fukin' Polish sponsored BIELSAT TV, made to harm Belarus? Laughing Laughing
    By saying that they have not registered a SINGLE rape case? Laughing Laughing Laughing
    And repeated that twice, as the Polish studio crew thought they have misheard first Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Second "Bucha Russian war crime"?
    With the Ukro MoD spokesperson announcing that they are entering the town to carry on "cleansing", "zachistka"?
    To be followed by the body cams of the nazi troopers, filming themselves while "can I shoot those with the armbands? Hell yeah!".
    And an accumulation, the forensic studies of the victims, made officially by the Ukrainian prosecutors, cited by The Guardian later. Most of the civilians were killed by the artillery fire, mostly with flechettes. Who could have made an artillery barrage on the town occupied by Russian troops? Yeah, I know! A special kind of Machiavellian Russkie orcs! Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Irpen? Digging out the fresh graves where Russian buried the civilians killed by Ukro artillery, again? And bodies with white armbands, obviously only killed a moment earlier, not two weeks ago when Russians were there?

    This nazi thug, who was again giving an interview, openly stating that they are killing civilian population considered traitors, and the scale is so big that "a survey must be made after"? Being proud of that ?!?

    Nobody would believe in that if said by the Russian side.
    But all of that is only from Ukrainian sources...

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    Post  Regular Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:18 am

    Remember Wagner complaining about artillery shortage?

    No wonder. Not even Mariupol was shelled like that.

    https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1631556518788182021?s=20

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    Post  Arrow Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:45 am

    Probably , UVZ produces about 2 to 3 T-90Ms per day. Incredible number. Very Happy

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    Post  billybatts91 Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:09 am

    Looks like the nazi trash is possibly leaving Bakhmut?


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    Post  Regular Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:37 am

    Yes, plenty of "famous" ones left too.

    Magyar and his unit and others.

    Only rear guard low-quality troops are left, hence why it's folding so fast.

    I don't like that it's so porous, if Ukrainians are allowed to leave like that - there will be another Bakhmut and another.
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    Post  flamming_python Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:41 am

    Yes, plenty of "famous" ones left too.

    Magyar and his unit and others.

    Only rear guard low-quality troops are left, hence why it's folding so fast.

    I don't like that it's so porous, if Ukrainians are allowed to leave like that - there will be another Bakhmut and another.

    The more Bakhmuts, the faster the NATO proxy forces will be depleted

    If they were to stay in Bakhmut then the result will be another Mariupol, where Russian troops would have to fight for every building, and this sort of thing always incurs the highest casualties.

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    Post  Regular Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:48 am

    FP wrote:The more Bakhmuts, the faster the NATO proxy forces will be depleted

    If they were to stay in Bakhmut then the result will be another Mariupol, where Russian troops would have to fight for every building, and this sort of thing always incurs the highest casualties.

    I am talking about killing the retreating troops, especially the quality ones. Run another Ilovaisk after another.

    And depletion? It affects Russia too. More and more of this will lead to mutual exhaustion and then long operational pauses to reconstitute the forces. Best depletion is destruction.

    There is still hope that Ukrainians even in staging areas will start to rout and this would result in an onslaught, mostly by VKS. Ukraine still has many artillery, howitzers and FOBs. I highly doubt that they will pull back in good order and be covered by AA.

    Anyways, we will see soon and I am glad Ukrainians are openly documenting their every move.


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    Post  billybatts91 Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:54 am

    Some dead nazi trash from Bakhmut. Dying for their imperialist nato masters smh... -


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    Post  Regular Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:58 am

    billybatts91, really? Shocked

    They are Wagnerians, the picture posted by Prigozhin himself. Who are the retards running these Twitter accounts? They should be sent to the frontline themselves, pro-z reporting quality is Ukro-tier nowadays, I think I am not only seeing this trend. It's like they want to discredit themselves on purpose.

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:15 am

    I am talking about killing the retreating troops, especially the quality ones. Run another Ilovaisk after another.

    And depletion? It affects Russia too. More and more of this will lead to mutual exhaustion and then long operational pauses to reconstitute the forces. Best depletion is destruction.

    There is still hope that Ukrainians even in staging areas will start to rout and this would result in an onslaught, mostly by VKS. Ukraine still has many artillery, howitzers and FOBs. I highly doubt that they will pull back in good order and be covered by AA.

    Anyways, we will see soon and I am glad Ukrainians are openly documenting their every move.

    And what do you propose? If the Ukrainians slip out on foot so then they can still do that even when nearly encircled. You will only catch them retreating if you're lucky.

    Sure depletion affects Russia too. It affects Russia the most in fact in urban battles. The fighting for the surrounding areas of Bakhmut and the shelling of troop concentrations went fine. Could do without a pitched battle for every nook and cranny in Bakhmut itself as well.
    All the more so as screening forces will be left behind in Bakhmut, the cannon fodder, and without the experienced fighters backing them up - they will promptly surrender with any luck.


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    Post  JohninMK Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:37 am

    If he weren't just a puppet, albeit willing, this should be on the headstone of his grave.

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    Post  Hole Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:55 am

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    POW´s in Bakhmut

    Regarding those blown up bridges. There are still Ukro fighters in the east of the city and their military leadership
    just destroyed the best way for them to leave.

    Ukrainian soldier at Bakhmut: „We called artillery for 2 hours, but nobody replied.“


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    Post  JohninMK Fri Mar 03, 2023 12:01 pm

    More on Madyar as per post 640. Still alive or been 'Azoved'?

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    The character of "Magyar", who recently told that the AFU company in Artemovsk lives for one day, today "suddenly" reported that he was being taken out of Artemovsk, where earlier, according to him, "the situation was controlled." The situation increasingly resembles the agony of Popasnaya and Soledar, when the same "truth-tellers" defending the city suddenly "tactically regrouped" beyond its borders.

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    Персонаж "Мадьяр", который давеча рассказывал, что рота ВСУ в Артемовске живет одни сутки, сегодня "внезапно" сообщил, что его выводят из Артемовска, где раньше по его словам "ситуация была контролируемая". Ситуация все сильнее напоминает агонию Попасной и Соледара, когда такие же "правдорубы" оборонявшие город внезапно "тактически перегруппировывались" за его пределы.
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    Ukrainian blogger Madyar escaped from Artyomovsk (Bakhmut) – Ukrainian Armed Forces are probably preparing to surrender the city

    While PMC "Wagner" is already filming happy videos from the center of Artemovsk, the odious Ukrainian "military blogger" Madyar hastily retreated from there. According to him, the unit will be redeployed at the most “critical” moment for the city. He did not comment on the decision of the command.

    Earlier, Madyar asked the command to withdraw the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the city and surrender it due to heavy losses. By the way, the Ukrainian militants themselves are trying to escape from Artyomovsk as soon as possible because of their deplorable situation. Most likely, Kiev will soon announce through gritted teeth the decision to surrender the city. https://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/status


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