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    Post  Backman Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:08 pm

    Film crew accidentally shows Zelenskys body double. He isn't really a body double. He's one of his body guards that probably serves as a decoy. He's the same size, stands the same way, same cloths.

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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:15 pm

    Konstantinovka is receiving some russian aid in form of incendiary ammo.

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    Post  Backman Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:18 pm

    And how do you know it's in Sumy and not western Ukraine?
    Should Russia keep track of everything that moves, 24/7 in the hundreds of thousands of square kilometers of Ukrainian territory?

    These little clips that proport to show columns of Ukraine armor going in unopposed are annoying. But it would sure be nice to see some missile or drone attacks on equipment in transport. A lot of hohol shit gets to the front.
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    Post  ALAMO Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:23 pm

    New post Hole Today at 9:15 pm

    Konstantinovka is receiving some russian aid in form of incendiary ammo.


    Good Samaritans. The night s supposed to be cold.

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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:51 pm

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    Wagner is moving faster since they are out of ammo.  Wink  lol1 lol1

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    Post  Isos Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:30 pm

    They use same weapons as ukraine. Ammo can be found in enemy positions. Thry have big stocks of ukro ammos IMO.
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    Post  ALAMO Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:33 pm

    The train with ammo is at the Artemovs station you silly.
    They need to get there first using paws&teeths.
    It is just another evil plan of Putin and the even more evil Russkie military oligarchy.
    Good that we have our evil military oligarchy debunkers here, every single graduate of The Battlefield High Curse of Field Marshals.
    They know the shit, so can explain it to us, dummies, who have a low-level access to the server, you know.
    Laughing  Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:51 pm

    A bit more detail on the US drones in the latest package that may be heading towards Ukraine one day. Maybe the US is starting to use it as a test site as well as the Russians.

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-gets-huge-boost-in-deadly-drone-capabilities-from-u-s

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    Post  Backman Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:13 am

    Part of the reason why there isn't air strikes. Artillery does the same thing for cheaper and less risk

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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:02 am

    It's somewhat poetic justice that the Kiev regime goons are getting creamed by artillery. They started it all with their artillery
    attacks on Donetsk residential blocks.

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    Post  Werewolf Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:07 am

    1)Russia gets islamists to blow up a major US ship or something similar
    Never deal with idealists who fight for their own idea. They are not mercenaries and will not do as you like for a few bucks if they see their own ideals and *isms as an absolute goal.
    Pros: You have some nutcases who shoot from the hip like some goons from A-Team or in Syria who can't get the job done have some air time and maybe a few kills here and there.
    Cons: Looks and is bad for Russia, thus Russia losses trust of BRICS and rest of the world

    2)Russia arms Syria to blitz US operations in Syria once and for all.
    No real benefit other than jeopardizing Syria's roadmap to become stable.
    3)A massive cyber attack on US/GATO infrastructures. To include mass production of fake banknotes etc
    What is the benefit?
    I don't doubt that Russia has capabilities in this sphere, but what are the benefits? DDOS for a day something that will annoy a few people and have no result other than burned millions of rubles for the DDOS attack. Even if you manage to cause some financial damage on US/GATO infrastructure it won't matter as it is all paid by tax payer's money.

    4)E-warfare attack on US/Europe with "plausible deniability".
    How often was there or even evidently no attack at all and Russia was blamed anyway? Just at the top of my head I can recall a few media reportings of some cyber attacks that traced back to "Moscow" which never existed in the first place. For fearmongering it is not even necessary to do anything but to tell your "free" Media to report a certain thing and you have what you wanted.
    5)Russia arms US separatist groups - blacks, Injuns, Hawaians.
    Let's be real, Russia doesn't have this kind of technology and no long arms. The peak of Russia's (Soviet's) ingenuity or more to say interest in that field was Pavlov's research on conditioning. What the KGB or FSB may have is most probably not much more than that. The Soviet's idea and interest was How can you teach a human to become a commy. The technology of psychological warfare, manipulation and mind control is the works of the US with MK Ultra. This project has in depth analysis of the human psyche of it's limitations, vulnerabilities and extremes under which the object will break.
    They used substances of mind alteration (drugs) to research, substances like Flouride which we drink in the West daily, which was proven to reduce the IQ for the general population by 5 points.  They have very good analysis and practice with indoctrination of Latin American gangs, mafias and domestic terrorists like sects and Scientology church. They have operations all over the planet and no one can deny their success like Ukraine. Sorry, but Russia doesn't have this mentality, technology nor capability to indoctrinate some groups inside the US to do some dirty deeds.
    Hell even If Russia now would somehow finance and support some group in the US to cause some trouble the very next school shooting will outshadow anything Russia can do anyways. I may remind you the US has several hundred school/mass shootings every fuckn year.

    6)Russia causes a coup somewhere - Moldova... perhaps Mexico or Catalonia or a more daring ie failed coup or major civil unrest in France or N Ireland or even Scotland. Perhaps one doomed to fail but enough to unsettle "comfortable minds)
    Again, Russia has short arms.
    Moldova will have a hard future anyways. My guess is it will seize to exist soon enough anyways as 4 countries have territorial interest in it. PMR wants to be part of Russia and they are Russian citizens. The closer Russia gets to Odessa the more likely it gets that Khokhly will try to attack it. They have committed several terrorist acts in PMR over the last year anyways. Romania under the directive of  the US wants to annex it anyways and Sandu is their puppet as the president of Moldova which follows a strict anti-russian pro-romanian policy which bugs even the pro-urkopian Moldovian people which I know from personally talking to some. Ukraine just once cause trouble so it will act on it sooner or later. Gaugazinians do not like to be part of Moldova and as soon as any 3rd player enters this gamble they will do the same as Donbas did and declare independence and there will be many Moldovans who will fight for PMR or Gaugazina.
    Russia's best cause is not to do anything right now. Get Odessa first and then create a landbridge to PMR and see if Gaugazin's are ready to join or not. Leave the rest as Moldova, deny any advances by Romania or anyone else.
    Russia has short arms for anything else like Mexico or Catalonia.
    7)Mass production of drones with Chinese help.
    Alaways helps unless you produce so many that some idiot plays Lord of War and sells that shit to your enemies which will zerg your own ass with them. Nasty weapon that no one is really equipped against. To much terror act potential to be honest.
    8)Getting a Russian base in Hungary and then connecting a strangle line from Hung to Belarus.
    Short Arms, no benefit for Hungary and will not shift anything.
    9) Getting an "unaligned" group to assassinate 'elensky or one of his controllers.
    No benefit in that.
    We and most probably Elensky knows his days are numbered and his ass is on the line. Who will kill him is not really important since all want to kill him once he is of no use.
    Currently leave him as "his" actions are in favor of the denazification course.
    10)Getting China to retake Taiwan and promising mutual support.
    Interesting, but China is no dog to follow command. They are quite intelligent and play their own long game.
    Unlikely, but most probably behind closed doors something in that regard was probably discussed between them.
    11)Arming N Korea substantially.
    What exactly by arming do you suggest?
    Despite their lack in technology of the current order they seem to be very potent. What technology would you give them that won't bite Russia's ass?
    My suggestion would be lift all sanctions and have full trade relationship with NK as it is a neighbouring country innocent of any wrong doing to be under sanctions. Make Love not War in that case.
    12)Arming/supporting "Trumpists" in a massive action.
    Short arms, no technologies, no NGOs and the few FSB sleeping cells have other jobs when the time comes.
    13)Leaking incriminating evidence eg Covid, Biowarfare, 911, fixed US elections etc.
    I think most people outside the Western Iron Curtain already know that so what exactly should this achieve?
    14)Complete cessation of trade to the West.
    Not many sectors left. Close the gas tap and dot.
    15)Anything else anyone can think of.

    Decision should be based on one thing, will it acieve a change in course or speed up the demise of the hegemonic status of the US?
    The most crucial geologistical points for the US are the Panama Channel, which was secured by the US at the start of the last century, surrounded by Banana Republics with no own military or naval capability. Meaning no possibility to arm anyone with AShM to deny the US this passage and cripple it's naval capability. Russia has some minor influence in Central America with Nicaragua, Cuba and Venezuela, however nothing of that sort will give it possibility to have this cheap shot to cripple the US Navy, unfortunately. It would be the single most devastating blast to the US and it's status with little effort. However, these countries would be on a suicide mission they are not groomed and raised to be some Ukrainian Ubermensch mentality.
    The other geographical junctions for US Naval power would be seas around Malaysia and Singapore with their bases for strategic military operations in that region. All of the surround countries are under US vassal status. Russia does not have even in it's wildest dreams any access politically to do anything there.

    The only possibility I see two options, down one of their B-52 bombers over the baltic states in case it would get close enough so the wreckage would land on Russian soil to have undoubtful case of NATO aggression. However, we know they don't fly that close for exactly that reason.
    The other option is to arm Middle Eastern countries with enough AShMs and SAMs to boost their military confidence while at the same time ex-pulse virtually the US from there. The US of course by their own high ego and exceptionalism will test waters by provoking direct confrontation which sooner or later will cause one AShM to find its way to one their vessels. The question is, what then? It will be a short loss of prestige and test the willingness of the US  to reply in that region. Judging by their hegemonic road map of Ukraine vs Russia they will not open a conflict in the Middle East not to overstretch their capabilities to fight to many wars at the same time. That might be the only option where via Middle Eastern countries like Iran, Syria and to some extend Jordan will be able to stretch their luck.

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    Post  mnztr Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:58 am

    AUF soldier blown out of building into river by ATGM

    wonder if he made it??!!

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    Post  mnztr Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:02 am

    yes and no, the difference is a couple of 1000 lb bombs will bring those buildings right down whereas you can pummel them with artillery for days and they may not come down. Its hard to achieve the angle of attack with non line of sight fire, whereas a laser guided bomb can hit at the base of the building and bring it right down on itself.
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    Post  mnztr Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:08 am

    They can do the same thing. wrote:

    Not necessarily. Have thousands of US programmers be working in Russia? Russia also has the ability to isolate its internet. This was developed and tested about 2 years ago.
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    Post  mnztr Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:43 am

    A bit more detail on the US drones in the latest package that may be heading towards Ukraine one day. Maybe the US is starting to use it as a test site as well as the Russians. wrote:

    start? first lab rats then bait, now weapons test subjects.

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    Post  lyle6 Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:35 am

    Forget the ammo. The musicians must be blasting tren with all these gains. Look at them:
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    Post  mnztr Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:31 am

    They should know where all the railway stations are and where all the workshops are. They should have high altitude Mig-31 recon missions or drones and Sats watching these things. Its pretty casual to be honest.

    it seems they have only JUST started a high priority counter battery hunting program using their excellent counter battery system Penicillin.
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    Post  billybatts91 Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:11 am

    Looks like China is gonna give it a try to get some sort of "peace deal/ceasefire" (I doubt it will work), and once this fails they'll start providing Russia with lethal weapons. That's why we're seeing such a big diplomatic push from them. They're gonna try it, it will fail and they will say "hey we tried but the West and Ukraine are hellbent on continuing this hopeless endeavor for them and if the whole of NATO and their friends are going to supply Ukraine with all kinds of weapons then we don't see why we can't send military aid to Russia as well, it's only fair..." After this diplomacy and talks, the weapons will start flowing in...that's my guess at-least.

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    Post  Regular Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:31 am

    Fall of Bakhmut can't come closer, but for the love of sanity, tell me how can Russia take Ugledar like this?

    It's a minefield and constantly shelled so you can't demine it. They need to push back Ukrainian artillery. And here airforce would be more advantageous than playing artillery duels.

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/11bokiw/armored_vehicles_from_the_russian_155th_naval/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

    https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/11bg96y/more_footage_of_the_attempted_russian_armored/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

    Some interesting observations from recent footage

    Georgian fighting for Ukrainians was using a pistol or standalone GP-25... against BTR-82A and soldier firing RPGs at him

    He met Sakashvillis political career.

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    Post  billybatts91 Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:41 am

    The total number of tanks Ukraine has gotten from 2022 until the spring of 2024 supposedly.

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    Post  Isos Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:20 am

    In the same process they are demilitarizing Poland.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:32 am

    Regular wrote:Fall of Bakhmut can't come closer, but for the love of sanity, tell me how can Russia take Ugledar like this?

    It's a minefield and constantly shelled so you can't demine it. They need to push back Ukrainian artillery. And here airforce would be more advantageous than playing artillery duels.

    Did Russian troops end up caught there again, or are you beating the same month old horse?

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