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    Post  limb Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:41 pm

    https://t.me/jnb_news/19968

    Finally just a bit of encouraging news

    he tactical environment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Artyomovsk (Bakhmut): what is known at the moment

    After mopping up Blagodatny, Krasnaya Gora, Paraskovievka, Berkhovka and Yagodnoye north of Artyomovsk (Bakhmut), the front line shifts to the west. Gradually, there is an advance towards the area, which the military among themselves call the "rhombus" - this is the line of fortified areas between Grigorovka, Orekhovo-Vasilevka, Novomarkovo, Markov, Bogdanovka and Dubovo-Vasilevka.

    There, the Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to regroup after the loss of Berkhovka, and basically from there, disturbing fire is being fired at the units advancing on Artyomovsk from the north. In the same place, in the Novomarkov area, there is a road along which Chasov Yar is supplied from Kramatorsk and Slavyansk, bypassing the main E-40 highway, part of which is under the fire control of the RF Armed Forces.

    Highway O-0506 Khromovo - Chasov Yar, which until recently was almost the only supply artery for the Artyomovsk garrison of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, is currently under the direct fire control of ATGM crews deployed on a number of dominant heights near Berkhovka.

    The use of bypass roads is difficult due to bad weather. Temperature fluctuations and precipitation have washed away the coating, which neither wheeled nor tracked vehicles can move on.

    To the south, in the Krasnoy (Ivanovskoye) area, there is an advance towards the APU oporniks, with the help of which the section of the T-0504 highway between Artyomovsk, Krasny, Nikolaevka and Chasovy Yar is held. The road itself has been under fire control for a month, but there is no physical control over it yet.

    Under the fire control of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the roads Bogdanovka - Kalinovka, Artyomovskoye - Chasov Yar, Stupochki - Konstantinovka, Konstantinovka - Belaya Gora, Konstantinovka - Dachnoye, Konstantinovka - Toretsk. In the area of ​​Konstantinovka, the activity of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is higher than in the Bakhmutsky area - the enemy uses artillery of 152 and 155 mm caliber, actively works with Grads. The supply of the garrison of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Chasovoy Yar is intermittent - artillery and aviation strikes have killed the railway track near the villages of Popasnoe and Stenki.

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    Post  Scorpius Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:49 pm

    limb wrote:Why hasnt russia been able to destroy any Ukrainian Olkha, smerch or vilkha launchers?
    https://ria.ru/20230105/spetsoperatsiya-1843149052.html
    https://ria.ru/20220514/unichtozhenie-1788591729.html

    It took me less than a minute to search for these messages.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:52 pm

    I think with Shoigus announcement and Putins speech, we can confirm that the leadership is delaying the speed of the SMO

    I guess they really are waging it concurrently with the economic/industrial battle between Russia and the West

    I thought it was a cover for incompetence, and to some degree it does exist in the miscalculations of the leadership

    But if they are confident of their capabilities such that they can speak of an "expansion" of the SMO then they do have an ace up the sleeve -

    That and the fact that they usually do not bluff, or say much at all

    In any case I wonder what such an expansion would look like - missile strikes already occur at high frequency, maybe more traditional combined arms tactics? Aerial strikes, and more classical forms of war
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    Post  limb Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:58 pm

    Ah yes, because "4 bradleys destroyed" konashenkov is such a reliable source.

    I wont believe any claims unless photos like this destroyed russian smerch are provided

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:03 pm

    Some Belarusian oppositions report that an A50U was damaged at Machulishchi airport

    A drone apparently dropped some explosive on the plane

    Hope it's fake, but other channels now reporting this
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    Post  Regular Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:07 pm

    ^^^

    Am I correct to say thay VKS didn’t employ them much and used these sparsely?
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    Post  Isos Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:10 pm

    Hard to believe. They don't want to attack Belorussia because until now they didn't want to be part of the war neither ukraine wants them to attack from the north.

    Maybe some pro nato belorussians ?
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    Post  Isos Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:12 pm

    You can't know how thry use them. That's an intel gathering plane in that war. They probably fly often. Tu-214R is also not mentionned anywhere but is for sure being used.
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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:13 pm


    @Trollstoy88
    The attack on the military airfield near Minsk is confirmed. The strike likely targeted the Russian A-50 early warning aircraft.
    Whether the aircraft was hit, and how seriously, it's still not known.
    Ukrainian sources report "medium damage".


    Escalation?

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:20 pm

    -- GEROMAN -- time will tell - 👀 -- Retweeted
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    Bakhmut Map via Pro-Russian Source Rybar. IMO the Ukrainian plan was probably to blow the dams to cover a retreat, but Wagner already captured one dam and was closing on the other. So they blew it before they lost the opportunity.
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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:41 pm


    @AZgeopolitics
    Daily reminder that AFU was and is being trained by "the West civilised society" which trains terrorists around the globe...
    Ukrainian sources publish a video of the transportation of Western military equipment inside civilian trucks


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    Post  Firebird Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:56 pm

    Russia must prevent ALL vehicles coming into the Pukraine from GATO countries.

    If the Pukraine wants anything in, then it must be cleared by neutral countries and staff eg by Turks/via Belarus etc etc.

    Otherwise Russia MUST destroy the vehicles that are acting with hostile intentions.

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    Post  Backman Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:56 pm

    Ukrainian sources report "medium damage". Escalation wrote:

    There are also new videos of Ukraine drones dropping grenades on civilians in downtown Donetsk.

    These are the usual cheap shots nato takes to play up in the mainstream media when they are losing ground. But it is still an escalation and should be unacceptable to Russia.

    Russia has answered these cheap shots with kalbers and better fucking well this time too
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    Post  flamming_python Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:26 pm

    Why hasnt russia been able to destroy any Ukrainian Olkha, smerch or vilkha launchers? Ukraine managed to destroy one smerch launcher. Theyre easier to identify than himars and have lower range.

    I don't know what the Olkha and Vilkha are, but the Russian MoD has claimed a considerable number of Smerches destroyed. HIMARS too.

    Or are you waiting for photoshoots?

    Ah yes, because "4 bradleys destroyed" konashenkov is such a reliable source.

    I wont believe any claims unless photos like this destroyed russian smerch are provided

    That's your problem, not anyone else's, please stop spamming this thread every 10 pages with the same requests, and stating your same assumptions as if they were facts.

    In the first weeks of the war, before the Ukrainians shored up OPSEC and stopped all photographing of destroyed Ukrainian bases, equipment, make-shift barracks, etc... we saw that a whole lot of all that was being destroyed.
    Nowadays, if you get missile-cam footage from a Lancet or grainy night-vision footage from a Ka-52 firing ATGMs - then count yourself lucky. But you won't find a Smerch in their sights; those are way behind the front-lines. And if they do have footage, it's also up to them whether they want to release it. Generally speaking, short-range precision systems and footage can reveal far less of interest than footage from long-range observation drones or tactical bombers.


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    Post  Backman Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:30 pm

    The spinsters at Slavyangrad are repeatedly saying that there was no attack at Machuliskchy or on a A-50 plane. So its unlikely that it happened.

    Earlier Igor Girkin was saying it was true and was hyping it up. Just shows that he needs to be imprisoned or at least put on house arrest with his digital devices taken away. Or just shot  dunno You cannot have high profile ppl in society shilling for the enemy in a war.

    Dear Friends,
    According to my data, no A-50( Russian aircraft) were hit anywhere today.
    There were flights to Machulischy.
    And the results were there.
    But the Belarusians will ask the Ukrainians for this result.
    And we will help in any way we can.


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    Post  flamming_python Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:36 pm

    Russia must prevent ALL vehicles coming into the Pukraine from GATO countries.

    If the Pukraine wants anything in, then it must be cleared by neutral countries and staff eg by Turks/via Belarus etc etc.

    Otherwise Russia MUST destroy the vehicles that are acting with hostile intentions.

    No, that's reckless and ridiciulous

    There are people going back and forth, food logistics, and plenty of other civilian activity.

    It's also absolutely unfeasible. You guys seem to have played too much command & conquer. Just try and track all the traffic going back and forth every hour, in real-time, never mind target it with some sort of missiles safely and at stand-off range. Only way you can do that is if you physically secure the entire border with troops. And even then, stuff can and will be smuggled in.

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    Post  Backman Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:41 pm

    No, that's reckless and ridiciulous

    There are people going back and forth, food logistics, and plenty of other civilian activity.

    There has to be a middle step between doing nothing and going apeshit.

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    Post  Ispan Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:22 pm

    https://asiatimes.com/2023/02/ukrainian-fighters-at-bakhmut-reported-encircled/

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:30 pm

    I've seen some local BLR news/gossip groups reiterate the allegations of an attempted drone attack, but the sources seem to be the same as everyone elses, ie some nebulous remark somewhere that just seems to circulate like Chinese whispers, changing a bit with each iteration and then being fed back into the loop.

    Guess we'll see tonight/tomorrow if any of it has any basis in reality at all.

    Likewise, after Prigozhin said they had some intel on a few Leopards having showed up northwest of Bakhmut, it didn't take long for the first kill claim to circulate (ATGM, Chasov Yar). Probably a nothingburger, that too, though I will admit that it would be awesomely hilarious if it were true.

    Saw some "military expert" on TV explain that the Leopards are so advanced and great that the Russians would probably just get scared and flee if they saw one. Such remarks, coupled with the many infantile Leopard memes posted by UA officials on Twitter etc, just tell me that the ensuing butthurt could power a medium-sized city for a year.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:35 pm

    The way zelensky and west are playing this the only result that's reasonable is taking 75-80% of Ukraine leaving small enclave of pro neo Nazis in the far west, and taking whole of Moldova lol!

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:59 pm

    Saw some "military expert" on TV explain that the Leopards are so advanced and great that the Russians would probably just get scared and flee if they saw one. Such remarks, coupled with the many infantile Leopard memes posted by UA officials on Twitter etc, just tell me that the ensuing butthurt could power a medium-sized city for a year.

    A4s that can be there at the moment have been decimated by flip-flop-booted Arabs using Fagots.
    Or Fagot clones.
    This whole dispute is ridiculous.
    Just an ordinary "quora expert" level that denies the evolution.
    Have you noticed how the speed is increasing, from a Wunderwaffe hype to silence?

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    Post  Hole Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:12 pm

    Ukraine will just become Gaza Strip 2.0 if they persist.
    I would prefer Westbank 2.0.  Very Happy

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    It seems the "Highway to Hell" has been captured by Wagner.

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    Post  franco Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:41 pm

    This shit show is one big WWII deju vu Arrow Twisted Evil

    Zelensky is removing the Ukrainian Military Commander in the Donbas.

    https://www.president.gov.ua/documents/1132023-45961

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:47 pm

    Meanwhile they're deliriously taking about "retaking" Crimea. Soon, don't worry, Steiners armies are getting ready.

    As for these armies.. Just the other day I mentioned that a Ukrainian pollster revealed that some 17% of people asked had lost a loved one. Assuming standard survey protocols were followed, it should be broadly statistically representative.

    Today I read that a random Ukrainian civilian (so not cadets from a mil academy or whatever) university acknowledged around ~10% of their recent alumni had been KIA/MIA (the latter typically means the former, there's some lag).

    It's borderline insane.

    Also today, this dropped, in a western rag to boot:
    Ukraine’s war secret: how many of their troops have died?
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ukraine-war-how-many-died-true-death-toll-2023-6f8t83k06


    The fatality figures are shrouded in secrecy but the ever expanding military cemeteries on the outskirts of Kyiv and Dnipro provide a vivid indication with their lines of freshly dug graves


    “No one wants to say,” says Andriy Tsaplienko, one of the country’s best known war correspondents who was himself injured.

    “Just from my own friends I lost one who was a cameraman, a fantastic singer, a songwriter, a poet, a political activist – the list is too long…”

    There is little doubt in my mind that they're nearing 200k military KIA, perhaps they even surpassed that mark already.

    Russia meanwhile is around 20k, give or take. Hard-ish data points to 15k (excluding LDNR), some pessimist assessments are in the 30-40k ballpark. Still, far below. Far, far below.

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    Post  mnztr Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:54 pm

    The way zelensky and west are playing this the only result that's reasonable is taking 75-80% of Ukraine leaving small enclave of pro neo Nazis in the far west, and taking whole of Moldova lol! wrote:

    i know Moldovas leader is a plant and hated by Moldovans, but are they pro Russian? Would they welcome being part of Russia or is Russia best to keep it limited to Transnistira? Also how do they feel about Ukranians? Can Russia combine Western Ukraine with Transnistria and make a viable oblast out of that? Maybe have a referrendum in the ethnic hungarian part of Ukraine and allow them to join Hungary? I would even let the annoying poles have Galacia, but all will have to commit to keeping these areas DEMILITRIZED.

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