Russian special military operation in Ukraine #41

Can all y’all please stop wasting server space ranting about irrelevant bullshit like fumes? wrote:

its not irrelevant. If the turret is full of fumes how you gonna see the targeting screens and use the controls.. let alone being gassed. for example: https://breakingdefense.com/2023/02/army-working-fix-for-mobile-protected-firepower-toxic-fume-challenge/

Some reliable source on Twitter stated that the glide bomb kit
is now in "mass-production" and that soon dozens if not 100+
attacks will happen each day.

Looks very cheap so mass production should be an issue. Even with 100 per month would be desastrous for ukrainians.

It also seems to be quite precise. They probably put a cheap GPS/Glonass receiver inside with movable wings.

If it has a 20m precision it is enough to use only smaller cheaper bomb like 250kg. With such precision and warhead no need for anything bigger.

Go to 14:33. Thr fume extractors on the t-64/t-80 and t-72/t-90 variants is very minimal and indeed particularly with apfsds lots of smoke comes back into the cabin, where it is then sucked away via the ventilation system. The vents in the image posted earlier I think are purely for air conditioning. No, it isn't a huge deal. Why? Because these vehicles were designed based upon doctrine and specific demands of the military. Now bad shortcuts are made and criticisms are always valid but I can make a pretty safe assumption that these concerne have been brought up before.

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today Zelensky imposed sanctions on Anna Surovikina, the wife of military general Sergei Surovikin.
We are waiting for General Armageddon's retaliatory sanctions on Kiev, Lviv and other military goals


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How dark. Bishop Pavel wears an electronic device on his leg
Church freedom in Ukraine is in dark


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Meanwhile, in the Kyiv-Pechersk Lavra. The bravest people of Ukraine.
They don't give holy things.


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The Russian Armed Forces fired incendiary shells at the combat positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Ugledar

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Russian "Black Eagle" tank soon entering in SMO area to hunt "Leopards" and other NATO menageries.
It' based on T-80U MBT with a new design turret.
It's rmed with a 152 mm cannon, a coaxial 7.62 mm machine gun and a remote anti-aircraft gun with a 12.7 mm Kord machine gun.


How many units are there?

Wasn´t that baby called "Black Eagle?" 125mm gun and ammo at the back of the turret.

This is the testbed with a 152mm gun.

Unfortunately RU lost dozens of the best T-80's during the Kharkov collapse. I think about 5 dozen total were captured between T-80BV, T-80OU, T-80BVM's.

GMZ-3 active in the fields of Zaporoshye.

There was only one Object 640 prototype built, so I dunno who is high enough to be thinking the russians are sending that thing into combat

Well sieg, per "The Drive" and "International Business Times," Ukraine destroyed that tank on March 22 of last year. So either Russia has 2, Ukraine didn't knock it out, or the whole thing is bs

The vents in the image posted earlier I think are purely for air conditioning. No, it isn't a huge deal. Why? Because these vehicles were designed based upon doctrine and specific demands of the military. Now bad shortcuts are made and criticisms are always valid but I can make a pretty safe assumption that these concerne have been brought up before. wrote:

Yet there is one of the project leaders on the newest T-90 mod highlighting efforts to deal with gases from the gun. Hardly sexy stuff on a tank.

It also seems to be quite precise. They probably put a cheap GPS/Glonass receiver inside with movable wings

An autogyro and GLONASS receiver and make the tail fins moveable to steer the bomb should be fine.

Go to 14:33. Thr fume extractors on the t-64/t-80 and t-72/t-90 variants is very minimal and indeed particularly with apfsds lots of smoke comes back into the cabin, where it is then sucked away via the ventilation system.

If you look carefully a lot is sucked out of the small hatch that ejects the shell case, plus the fact that the camera is positioned behind the crewman where most of the smoke goes behind the gun between the two turret crew and is dispersed relatively quickly.

The gunner will say when they fire so holding your breath for 20 seconds and you might not even breath in any fumes at all.

How many units are there?

None. The Black Eagle was never actually made, only a mockup vehicle was driven around defence expos, but they never actually made any AFAIK... ammo in the turret bustle was considered to be too exposed to enemy fire and AFAIK there was never any version with a 152mm calibre gun.

Did you watch your own video with the volume on ? The smoke is gone in seconds. And the commentator says it. WTF more do you want or need?

More importantly use your depth perception to see where the smoke actually is and where it goes... it appears directly behind the gun and disappears rather quickly without suffocating either the gunner or commanders position... if they turret was larger the loader standing behind the gun would get enveloped in smoke, but he does not exist in this tank.

Yet there is one of the project leaders on the newest T-90 mod highlighting efforts to deal with gases from the gun. Hardly sexy stuff on a tank.

Compared to the smoke and flame coming out the other end, this smoke is nothing to be worried about... the gun has a fume extractor attached to it... the small amount of smoke that enters the crew compartment is not around long enough to worry too much about.

BTW thanks for posting those photos of the Hind Hole, that first photo from below I thought those anti missile turrets were mounted on the wing in between the inner wing pylons and the cabin, but the other shot showed they were mounted on the lower fuselage... nice catch... hadn't seen those at airshows or arms fairs before.

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didn't you say you were gonna block me lol.  You keep saying its not an issue bla bla bla and here is a guy that is one of the top guys in the T90M program explaining how they deal with this issue on the latest version of the t-90. Are you claiming you know more about tanks then this guy?

Compared to the smoke and flame coming out the other end, this smoke is nothing to be worried about... the gun has a fume extractor attached to it... the small amount of smoke that enters the crew compartment is not around long enough to worry too much about. wrote:

On this version sure. That is why the guy is making a point of explaining the measures on the newest version that deal with this. Why would he mention it if it was unchanged from the earlier versions. Its not exactly a sexy tank feature.