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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:12 pm

    Buks can use the old Sa-6 missiles. They have plenty of them.

    It can also control a SA-6 TEL from the command post but ukro buks are unlikely to be linked between them because central search radars are targeted easily be russian air force. Without search radars command vehicles are useless for target designation.

    They are using their buks TELARs alone for lucky shoots once they visually see a target IMO.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:39 pm

    No wonder that Kiev wants to make making video like this a criminal offence.

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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:00 pm

    Explode few meters away from the buk. This should also work against APS like Arena-E.


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    Post  Kiko Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:47 pm

    The Pentagon Leaks Charade, by Pepe Escobar for Strategic Culture Foundation. 04.11.2023.

    The script reads like a spoof straight out of legendary Mad magazine 1960’s cartoon “Spy vs. Spy”: Secret Pentagon Documents Fall in the Hands of Malign Russia. Well, actually in the hands of millions accessing Twitter and Telegram.

    So here, at face value, we have a major leak essentially detailing Pentagon planning for the next stage of the NATO vs. Russia proxy war in Ukraine: the interminably debated Spring “counter-offensive” that may, or may not, start in mid-April, as well as war plans shared with FVEY – the Five Eyes.

    The leaked intel might – and the operative word is “might” – be advantageous to Russia were this not to be misdirection: and the possibility is quite real.

    The inestimable Ray McGovern, who knows one or two things about the CIA, noted whether the Pentagon is “falsifying kill-ratio to gild Easter lilies in Kyiv? Recent leak of an apparently official NATO document shows 71,500 Ukrainians KIA and only 16,000 to 17,500 Russians, a far cry from earlier Pentagon ‘estimates’. All sounds so Vietnam-déjà vu!”

    So this may be Vietnam all over again – never count on the Pentagon learning from their mistakes – but could be something way more alarming, according to a top Beltway intel source, retired: “Our interpretation of this breach is that intel sources in the United States have released critical intel data in order to avoid a nuclear war with Russia.”

    As it stands, the only certainty is that the spin war has gone berserk. So the leaker may have been a – disgruntled – U.S. insider. No, wait: the whole thing may be fake, as the Pentagon insists. In spin speak, that would be an attempt to “spread false information that could harm the U.S.”.

    Tweaked or not, the “secret” Pentagon comparative war dead ratio between Russians and Ukrainians still does not make sense. The numbers appear to reflect Bakhmut/Artemovsk casualties, where Russian casualty ratios were highest. Yet reliable on the ground Russian military correspondents assure the ratio is really 10 to 1, with the Russians employing the snail technique combined with a formidable artillery mincing machine.

    “Stupefying” incompetence


    The undisputable conclusion out of the – real or fake – Pentagon leaks is that the U.S. is in a state of war against Russia. And that is serious enough.

    Washington has been feeding information non-stop on command posts, ammunition depots and key nodes in the Russian military lines. It’s such real-time intel that has allowed Kiev to target Russian forces, kill senior generals and force ammunition depots to be moved farther from the Russian front lines.

    Anything Pentagon/NATO stenographers say about Kiev playing the proverbial “decisive role” in planning and executing these strikes is a lie. The U.S. exercizes total, absolute control of the Ukraine war on a central command basis. Including from that “secret” underground bunker near Lviv which recently received a business card from Mr. Khinzal and has gone to meet its maker – along with over 200 NATO high-level operatives.

    Fake or not fake, we also have confirmation that the Pentagon has direct access to communications of the Russian Ministry of Defense. And that the Americans listen to everyone and his neighbor: the sweaty T-shirt actor in Kiev, all the Five Eyes allies, and the Mossad.

    As for the notion that Kiev has changed its counter-offensive “military plans” because of the Pentagon leaks, everyone should feel free to control the pitch of their roaring laughter.

    The Russian non-response response to all this hoopla could be seen as a classic of misdirection. Responding to the U.S. de facto engaged in an undeclared war against Russia, much hotter than Hybrid, President Putin said that Russia is interested in “peaceful coexistence with the U.S. and establishing a balance of interests” given their status as the world’s two biggest nuclear powers.

    Well, no one can possibly imagine Stalin saying that Russia was interested in peaceful coexistence with Nazi Germany in July, 1941 as the Wehrmacht was rushing towards Moscow, Leningrad and the Caucasus oil.

    From the point of view of valuable military information, the indispensable Andrei Martyanov summed it all up: these “documents” contain none, apart from confirming that the Pentagon is absolutely clueless on the SMO: why is it happening, what is the modus operandi and what it plans to achieve.

    Kremlin spokesman Dmitri Peskov did cut to the chase: “We don’t have the slightest doubt about direct or indirect involvement of the U.S. and NATO (…) it cannot influence the final outcome of the special operation.”

    As Martyanov stresses, Russia maneuvers an extremely advanced ISR (Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance) complex, including human intel on the ground, electronic warfare and satellite constellations: “In terms of war correlates and combat statistics – I wouldn’t touch anything coming from Pentagon with a long stick.”

    There are indeed several serious issues with the Pentagon “top secret” intel. It oozes the impression it was redacted based on open data, and not actual intel. And all that packaged by some quite shoddy work.

    For instance, the insistence to “re-equip” Ukrainian air defense with missiles is not supported by data on where such missiles will be coming from. The name of the NASAMS – the middle range, ground based air defense system co-developed by Raytheon – is misspelled.

    In official NATO documents, weapons from the USSR and from Russia are indicated in NATO codification. There is no style uniformity: it’s a messy mix of official code designations and transliterations from Russian into English.

    So no wonder the impression is solidified that the U.S. Army Command in Europe (EUCOM) got their “intel” from open sources, and is absolutely clueless on how many weapons, how much equipment and how many people the Ukrainians actually have.

    And that explains what’s going on in Artemovsk – with the Russians taking all the time in the world to calibrate their strategic defense, and after the orderly abandon of Kherson, lure the Ukrainians into a non-stop slaughterhouse. Martyanov qualifies U.S./NATO incompetence to see it coming as “stupefying.”

    Once again: the most important consequence of the Pentagon leaks is to establish that the U.S., de facto and de jure, is at war against Russia – whatever may be the spin by that Norwegian piece of dead wood in Brussels. Russia will establish a war crimes tribunal for Ukraine, so sooner rather than later, selected collective West luminaries better take refuge in their New Zealand bunkers.

    It’s also crucial to always keep in mind Ukraine is a mere pawn in their game for not losing world power, against China, Russia and potentially Germany.

    The initial psycho Straussian neocon goal was to cut off Germany from Russia using “Liver Sausage” Chancellor Scholz, who was briefed in advance on the terror attack on the Nord Streams.

    Scholz was also involved in the CIA misdirection scam, channeling the blame for the terror attack on some obscure Ukrainian “dissident” and a bumbling yacht – as brilliantly covered by Seymour Hersh.

    The next step is to cut off Ukraine from Russia – “reconquering” Crimea, the focus of the current P.R. blitzkrieg, and Donbass, thus originating a cataclysmic psychological upheaval in Russia leading to a Putin regime change.

    Then the Straussians would finally command Russia’s massive natural resources – and block them from China by land and by sea via the U.S. Fleet.

    That’s not exactly clever – but Straussian neocons do revel in their own intellectually shallow pond. Cue to that insufferable idiot Admiral John Kirby saying there can be no negotiations with Russia until they leave Ukraine, abandoning Donbass and Crimea.

    So the (show) war in Ukraine must go on, to the last Ukrainian, or all these elaborate plans will irretrievably bite the dust. This is a do-or-die war against Russia-China for the control of Eurasia. Will that imply more Pentagon leaks? Bring them on.

    https://www.unz.com/pescobar/the-pentagon-leaks-charade/

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    Post  Backman Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:24 am

    Alex Mercouris had a big speal today about how Russia may not or is not capable of doing US style air campaigns. I think he's wrong. They did it to a limited degree in Syria.

    Plus I dont think they are all that complicated. Arguably less complicated than missile campaigns that are shooting missiles from hundreds of kilometers away from surface ships and subs

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    Post  Kiko Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:12 am

    Russian forces took control of all administrative buildings in Artemovsk, 04.11.2023.

    Acting head of the DPR Pushilin: administrative buildings in Artemovsk taken under the control of the Russian Armed Forces.

    MOSCOW, April 11 - RIA Novosti. All administrative buildings in Artemovsk are under the control of Russian troops, Denis Pushilin, acting head of the DPR, said on Channel One.

    "I'll tell you that all administrative buildings (in Artemovsk. - Ed.) are already under the control of our units," he said.

    According to Pushilin, the Armed Forces of Ukraine still remain in the west of the city, there are still areas where they "can be held for some time."

    Ukrainian fighters, he explained, were ordered not to retreat, and those soldiers who nevertheless decided to surrender, "understand that this is the only chance for them to survive."

    "The situation is as follows: those units have no choice. <...> There is no way back, because detachments are working there, <...> they will be conditionally destroyed by their own," the acting head of the republic emphasized.

    Now fierce battles are going on in the western part of Artemovsk, an active confrontation is unfolding in the area of ​​​​the railway, in certain areas Russian forces have already crossed it, he added.

    On Tuesday evening, the founder of the Wagner Group, Yevgeny Prigozhin , said that 80 percent of the city is under the control of Russian forces, including all administrative centers, plants, and factories.

    Artemovsk is located north of Gorlovka. This is an important transport hub for supplying the Ukrainian group of troops in the Donbass . Fierce battles have been going on for the settlement for more than six months.

    According to the latest data, Russian forces have cut off or taken fire control of all paved roads to the city, and the slush that has begun is seriously making it difficult for the enemy to transport ammunition and personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    https://ria.ru/20230411/artemovsk-1864629883.html

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    Post  Regular Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:19 am

    Isos wrote:


    Explode few meters away from the buk. This should also work against APS like Arena-E. 

    Yes, new updated lancets seem not only be able to hit moving targets better, but also have proximity HEAT charges.

    Nothing to do with APS, but rather maximising formation of penetrator and negating cage and ERA arrays. It doesn’t get deflected this way too. 

    T-14 should definitely have ability to carry lancets, evolution of this drone is impressive and it could be used as solution for recon vehicles too. BRDM type of vehicle working from cover and carrying vehicle launched 4 semi autonomous lancets (they could would serve a dual purpose)

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    Post  Backman Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:11 am

    There's a video on telegram showing someone getting their head cut off. According to the arm bands the victim is a Ukrainian and the cutter is a Wagner.

    Until or unless Prigozin says it was one of his guys , I'll assume it is a psyop with switched uniforms. Wagners media releases aren't just a big free for all. I find it hard to believe that Wagner units would film it and release it like this.

    Plus that cossacghundi douche was one of the first to tweet about it. Hmmm wonder why. And he's making excuses as to why the victim is wait for it..... speaking Russian.

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    Post  kvs Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:41 am

    The head cutting is a psyop.

    1) The Russian side does not have the foaming at the mouth hate that the Ukr Bandera-tards do.   There is simply no comparison.
    We already had individual atrocities perpetrated by the Kiev regime side since the start of the war.   There have not been similar cases
    from the Russian side.   There is no "cover-up" since the Ukr side and NATzO would be running with such cases.

    2) Nothing happening on the front would twist the Russian side to develop such a mentality.

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    Post  gc3762 Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:20 am

    "Alex Mercouris had a big speal today about how Russia may not or is not capable of doing US style air campaigns. I think he's wrong. They did it to a limited degree in Syria."

    It's the other way around I remember the start of Russia's intervention in Syria the west was amazed by the 24hr operations of the Russia Air Force. Andrei Martyanov recently mentioned 60000-70000 sorties in Syria and 140000 sorties in the SMO until mid march sometimes 5 sorties a day per plane. He questioned the availabity of the Hato fleet mentioning less than 50% of the German Fleet was ready to fly let alone fly around the clock.

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:54 am

    Headless chicken was from Kraken unit

    If true I'd say someone is finally dispensing appropriate admonishment

    Kids have been slaughtered for years on straight and nobody gives a shit, this here should not even be getting noticed in comparison

    Personally I would go with good old gasoline, lasts longer and is self-cleaning




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    Post  GarryB Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:34 am

    saying the Crimean people invited you is quite different then the sovereign govt. Just like Russia was invited by the Syrian govt. You do not need unsc approval to invite troops into your own country for any reason.

    Crimea was a semi autonomous region that has its own governance, that happened to be part of the Ukraine by decree of a Soviet leader exercising a right he did not have.

    You need UNSC approval for any troops you send to be called Peace keepers.

    of course russia has some control over this.

    Don't confuse me saying Russia has no control over what Kiev does with me saying Russia is powerless and Kiev holds all the cards.

    Kiev can do as it pleases and it was always within Kievs power to follow the agreements they signed and solve this problem peacefully without any bloodshed at all.

    If Kiev decides to send everything they have in one last push then all Russia can do is react... Russia has troops in a large area not concentrated anywhere in particular and they can't be sure where Kievs forces might attack... Kiev is getting real time intel from the west so even if Russia found out their plans and moved their forces to counter them then HATO intel would notice the movements of Russian forces and Kiev would most likely shift their line of attack to somewhere else that is more thinly protected.

    Case in point late last year the Orcs supposedly made advances and pushed Russian forces back... well that was no accident... HATO intel probably showed them places where there were very few Russian soldiers and so they attacked there... with there being so few they had to pull back and concede ground or be wiped out.

    They did withdraw but killed lots of enemy troops in withdrawing and pretty soon after they were able to push back in most places and currently they are occupying territory they didn't have before.

    With the coordination of tanks and artillery and air power and drones I really don't think any offensive by Kiev is going to go very well at all... it will become a real bloodbath and they have cheap bombs with glide kits and plenty of artillery to do it on a large scale but without an enormous financial burden.

    but certainly they know enough and have intel and attack capabilities to severely hinder the movement of heavy weapons.

    The Orcs will make every effort to hide heavy weapons and disguise them as something else... but of course once they start to use those heavy weapons they will be picked off fairly rapidly I suspect.

    very underrated weapon. Its steep trajectory and huge charge are pretty terrifying.

    Very powerful ammunition and a relatively clever but simple vehicle platform where a couple of men can roll up with wheel barrows with the rounds and the vehicle has the equipment to lift the rounds off the ground and prepare the round with a fuse and booster propellent charges and load the round into the tube despite it being about the same weight as me (124kgs) and fire the round with no risk of dropping it or doing your back in... various hand operated cranes and mechanically driven rammers to load the bombs.

    Simple and relatively basic and effective.

    It is not a rocket science, you know Laughing
    Just a straight strip of concrete.

    That is fine on a German autobahn, but the roads in the Ukraine are not the same... and the F-16 is a fussy bitch.

    Actually, only the MiG-29 used to have real secondary air inlets at the top of the fuselage, but that solution was not carried further

    The MiGs had solid intake doors, while the later designs use the mesh grids the Flankers use where the upper intake louvers are no longer required.

    Unless the road is a real rubbish dump or next to one where the wind can blow crap over the road the F-16 should be fine as it's nose wheel is well behind the air intake.

    I have seen a photo of an aircraft sitting on a runway running up its engines and the aircraft happens to have a puddle of water on the ground just where the air intake is and a column of water is forming from the puddle up into the air intake.

    Stones and rubbish don't need to be flung up by the wheels to enter an air intake like the one fitted to the F-16 or MiG-29 or Su-27, the intense airflow can suck things quite a distance away.

    One of the things they found with the AV-8 is that the very idea of operating in a supermarket carpark... something they claimed when they were trying to sell the idea of a VSTOL aircraft, is that it doesn't matter if you have people walking around picking up stones and fragments of metal and things... you start operating jet aircraft in a supermarket carpark and the plastic bags or paper rubbish around the place is enough to destroy the engines very very quickly.

    Operating from open ground required PSP or pierced steel planking to be laid down to just stop dirt from being ripped up and sucked into air intakes, though obviously with VSTOL aircraft the problems are made worse by jet exhaust being directed into the ground directly.

    https://edition.cnn.comxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Yes, it is propaganda...

    Any true intelligence shown in the US would be immediately called Putins puppet and have sanctions imposed on it.

    that would make sense and the blast seemed quiet small and far away, yet it wasted those three guys, 2 of them almost instantly.

    To be fair the middle guy was already wounded.

    Mortar bombs are often very effective against troops standing up and exposed and in the open.

    A mortar bomb normally comes in at a very steep trajectory so it comes in nearly vertical so the nose mounted fuse and the tail mounted fins point up and down respectively, but the side walls of the bomb which create the most fragments on most explosive rounds face sideways spreading a nice even circular pattern of deadly fragments.

    Even a hand grenade might land on its side with the top pointing at the men you threw the grenade at which would reduce its lethality... a mortar bomb of 82mm calibre will be about 4kgs of explosive and fragments, compared with a hand grenade with likely 90 grammes of explosive and maybe another 500 grammes of metal fragments, so about half of one kg.

    I suppose no conspiracy theory needs to be applied here bro

    During the cold war on parade missiles and missile tubes were often painted white or silver, but for combat operations were often painted green or similar less bright colour... I suspect they had been painted for displays and shows and nobody bothered to give them combat camouflage redos.

    ^ Ok ok. I just don't recall seeing the bright white ones recently. And the missiles on this one were mis matched. We know they are short of buk missiles and they cant mfg them in Ukr.

    Either way, it wouldn't surprise me if some Indian weapons turn up on the Ukraine side

    All during the cold war you had to look out for funny little things like this because they normally didn't say anything, so don't stop paying attention to such things, but I think this has been explained. Smile

    Buks can use the old Sa-6 missiles. They have plenty of them.

    They are backwards compatible, but do they have lots of older missiles?

    And if they do what sort of condition will they be in now?

    Using SA-6 missiles would require the target to be illuminated constantly from launch to impact, which will alert the target and allow them to respond with an anti radiation missile which is probably faster than the SA-6 missile.

    Explode few meters away from the buk. This should also work against APS like Arena-E.

    Rather impressive how effective the camouflage of the vehicle is when it gets on that rough patch... of course except the white painted missile.

    The second missile appears to have mud wiped all over it in an attempt to camouflage it, which appears to be very successful... in fact only the lack of track marks suggests to me that there are not already other vehicles sitting next to that vehicle.

    With HEAT warheads the plasma beam that penetrates armour can take a few cms to form properly... some early model RPG-7 warheads actually improved their penetration performance if they hit standoff armour and detonated a few cms before it hit the main armour... against weakly armoured SAM vehicles and artillery vehicles detonating the warhead before impact would not stop it from penetrating most targets and might be triggered when a vulnerable part of the target is lined up with the warhead.

    A low hit on the BUK vehicle where the penetrator burns through the crew compartment might not start a big fire that destroys the vehicle, whereas a high hit that penetrates a missile and starts a big fire that sets the other missile on fire where the propellent and warheads of both missiles burn would do much more damage and is much more likely to destroy the vehicle... even if the crew can bail and survive in this take destroying the vehicle is more useful.


    So this may be Vietnam all over again – never count on the Pentagon learning from their mistakes – but could be something way more alarming, according to a top Beltway intel source, retired: “Our interpretation of this breach is that intel sources in the United States have released critical intel data in order to avoid a nuclear war with Russia.”

    The western politicians are so wrapped up in their own bullshit propaganda that they don't realise how bad the real situation actually is and they are making decisions based on a fantasy that is going to bite them in the arse...

    This should also work against APS like Arena-E.

    ARENA works by destroying the HEAT warhead with fragments so even if it explodes it does not form a proper plasma beam at the target tank the APS system is protecting. If the ARENA system hits the incoming threat before the incoming threat explodes then it would work as intended, but if the incoming threat explodes and sets forth a penetrating plasma beam before the APS munition hits it then it will be dangerous to the target.

    Of course most standoff detonating rounds like this weapon or perhaps top attack rounds that use self forging fragments could be intercepted by APS systems too.

    Most standoff detonating missiles mostly wont have huge penetration performance... top attack SFF warheads normally penetrate less than 300mm or armour but because they target top armour they are normally effective enough anyway.

    It's the other way around I remember the start of Russia's intervention in Syria the west was amazed by the 24hr operations of the Russia Air Force.

    He also mentioned how cost effective the Russian air campaign was in comparison to US air campaigns with their super expensive aircraft and super expensive guided weapons compared with Su-24s and Su-34s and Su-25s mostly dropping dumb bombs with near guided weapons accuracy and Tu-22M3s against area targets that needed more HE.

    There's a video on telegram showing someone getting their head cut off. According to the arm bands the victim is a Ukrainian and the cutter is a Wagner.

    Such a thing is all about propaganda... western audiences are losing interest and really don't give a shit about Ukraine any more so this video pops up... how convenient... would be interesting to track who posted it first and whether they were CIA, NSA, or M16 funded.

    I mean look at the pathetic video proof that Su-27s rammed a US drone... the artist stitching that together couldn't even get that right with clear yellow stripes on the propeller disappearing with one of the prop blades during the collision... FAKE.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:47 am

    Future Kornets

    Or Konkurs.
    Missiles that felt into a cadre were obviously Konkurses.
    Seems that those are just fine in this conflict.

    Does somebody know what this is/will become?

    A missile become part will be, young padawan.
    Laughing Laughing Laughing
    Seriously, it seems a fuel tank of rocket or something scratch

    Alex Mercouris had a big speal today about how Russia may not or is not capable of doing US style air campaigns.

    Remind me, when was the last time when the US faced air defense on pair with the Ukro one? scratch

    Crimea was a semi autonomous region that has its own governance, that happened to be part of the Ukraine by decree of a Soviet leader exercising a right he did not have.

    Crimea was a fully autonomous body with own constitution and government, and Sevastopol was an even more bizarre example as it was formally never transferred to the Ukrainian SSSR. It has an autonomous status even in the Soviet Union, was a body of Soviet structures.
    And Crimea reclaimed and formally regained its full autonomy already in 1991, before the Ukrainian state constituted itself.
    It was harshly and brutally conquered after that, while the drunkard Yeltsin did nothing. To busy drinking vodka with his beloved Kuchma Kammerad.

    That is fine on a German autobahn, but the roads in the Ukraine are not the same... and the F-16 is a fussy bitch.

    They used to have tons of improvised road airstrips.

    For example in Poland, there are only four left, and only one of them is being actively used by the PAF.
    This one :
    https://lotniska.dlapilota.pl/goleniow-kliniska-dol

    Yet here you have a list of those :
    https://lotniska.dlapilota.pl/typ-type/dol

    And we are talking about really predestined roads, with taxi, maintenance and hideouts areas.
    There are dozens of straight parts of a road with no obstacles that can be used for air operations, and new ones are being constructed.
    It is official.

    Sure that 404 is a corrupted shithole, yet they had a whole heritage of the Soviet Union left, so the number of assets for dispersing airforce must have been enormous. Even if they did perfectly nothing with those, a lot of them are still operational, and that is a clear case.
    And keep in mind that finally they did have some roads without holes Laughing no matter how unrealistic it seems Laughing Laughing

    Buks can use the old Sa-6 missiles. They have plenty of them.

    They are backwards compatible, but do they have lots of older missiles?


    Actually, no and no.
    Buk can guide Kub, but the missile is being operated with the Kub launcher. Not Buk one.
    And they obviously lack Kubs, as none has been reported used.
    The last Ukrainian attempt was Kvadrat 2D presented in 2015, but that gained close to zero attention.
    It was already outclassed, WZU presented a much better Kub evolvement project in 2012.
    And a while ago, some rumors appeared that it is Poland and Slovakia to transfer their remaining Kubs to 404.


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    Post  Backman Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:21 am

    Now we know why the beheading psyop was released now. The video is from the summer but they release it now.



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    Post  nomadski Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:31 am

    Papadragon wrote " Headless chicken was from Kraken unit .If true I'd say someone is finally dispensing appropriate admonishment .Kids have been slaughtered for years on straight and nobody gives a shit, this here should not even be getting noticed in comparison .Personally I would go with good old gasoline, lasts longer and is self-cleaning.. " I think this is put out there to let Ukrs troops think that there is no easy way out for them , if they put guns down or surrendered . I have said this before . In response Russia should show that POW are treated according to Geneva , returned in exchange or after war over , giving the POW a choice ! They could stay and do labour work , in liberated area . But hard-core Azov  , must go back and die another day ! I did not look at photo of headless Chickens , but if no blood on ground , then decapitation was after death ......unless the Ukrs troops run around like headless chickens .

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:07 am

    So obvious, so stupid

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    What I found was that over 60% of pro-war/pro-UKR accounts list Langley, VA, aka CIA headquarters as their location. Wiki leakes

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    Post  Hole Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:28 pm

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    lol1 lol1 lol1

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    From an Ukro channel, talking about the bombing campaign

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    Post  Backman Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:10 pm

    We are the ones watching the Wagners in this war daily. We know the temperament.

    This is typically as edgy as they get with the worst Nazis with Nazi tattoos. Glory to Putin , glory to Russia and a bitch slap. That is the extent of it. But then the most violent attack in the whole was was suddenly the Wagners? F off
    . Ukraine was holding this video in reserve so that they could use it in a time like now. When they're shilling for F-16s

    Like this haha. And the faces are even blurred https://t.me/gzvonews/5686?single

    Translation

    -Glory to Russia
    *Louder!
    -Glory to Russia!!!
    *Zelensky is what?
    -Faggot.. Faggot!!!
    - Bitch. *What? -Bitch!!!
    *Putin is what?
    -Great man. *What? -Great man!!!
    *Great man, yes, woohoo. :slaps him: . Bitches, fags haha


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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:24 pm


    Can someone clean up that air defense translation a bit? It sounds like aneurysm
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    Post  franco Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:44 pm

    Today is the 9th anniversary of the beginning of the defense of the city of Slavyansk by the DPR.

    Today, 9 years ago, a group of 52 volunteers under the command of Igor Strelkov will take control of the large city of Slavyansk. The beginning of glorious battles and victories.

    https://twitter.com/distant_earth83/status/1646090934801580033?cxt=HHwWgoC2zfu-i9gtAAAA

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    Post  Backman Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:54 pm

    This is being posted by Ukrainian channels as a Russian officer beating a subordinate. Doesn't show the face of the attacker. This is nothing compared to the other video. Just a few kicks. Same bs.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:35 pm

    A mid week smile for you all

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:45 pm

    The fUSSR is shock full of airstrips everywhere, many haven't been maintained since the late 1980s, but legacy MiG-29s can still use them due to overengineered gear, anti-FOD doors (plus auxiliary topside intakes) etc.

    You can probably operate a MiG-29 from a dirt/grass strip if absolutely necessary.. F-16 not so much.

    Anyway, the sheer amount of concrete runways scattered across the landscape in UA can't be ignored. Soviet war planning, basically.

    Some countries did the same with a combination of random runways scattered about, and public roads made wider and straighter here and there, sometimes with some adjacent additional (often cleverly hidden) infrastructure to support aerial ops in case of war.

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