Prigozhin mutiny thread

Don't forget that the generals not only didn't give him ammunition but also bombarded his camp.

Netflix canceled the series. 

If Prigozin has gone rogue and its not Maskirovka, by definition he's not the sort of character u can have a deal with.

Additionally, if someone "demands" you do something, you can look weak if you do later do that. Even if u wanted to do it anyway. I am thinking demands for VVP to do full mobilisation.

Finally if Prigozin is denying Russia's justification for the war, then unless its Maskirovka, then he is completely and utterly done. Because that would make Prigozin no better than Pravy Sektor and the like.

flamming_python wrote:I call bullshit on all these losses. Maybe some equipment was wrecked, but I doubt anybody died. And these Telegram channels are no authority for me, they're staffed with bullshitters themselves.

They need to reset the Jack-in-the-box but I don't see the point. Prigozhin is a spent asset at this stage, despite his superb performances. There's only so many times you can repeat the act.

Fighterbomber, the Rybar of the air force, usually comes out and admits everything. Even though it could all be fog of war and nobody needs to know the real truth.

ArgentinaGuard wrote:Don't forget that the generals not only didn't give him ammunition but also bombarded his camp.

That such bs. As if the Russian MOD is based enough for that. That would never get the ok from the natl security council. You obviously have been watching Russia through a blinkered western media lense if you think that is true. Which has been shown by some of your other comments.

Last line is still under debate.

After this it's definitely banana republic

No matter how hard you try to rationalize it this only happens in banana republics

Pretty much. I really hate to concede this point. But Russia has nobody to blame but itself. There is no way to whitewash this.

Those who didn't trust Prigozhin were right. The retards who idolized him were wrong. The next anvil that Russia will drop on its head will be some kind of scandal of equal proportions involving the military bloggers like Rybar, Fighterbomber ect. The same clowns that Putin actually had a meeting with. There was rumors about Prigozhin making deals with Ukraine a few weeks ago. There was also rumors of Rybar getting information from Ukraine sources a few weeks ago.

Yes I am pumping my own tires but I called for the arrest of Prigozhin and Strelkov 8 months ago and for the shutdown of Rybar months ago too. There is no need for transparency cucks in war.

Ohh but Strelkov is distancing himself from this. Who cares. He went over the line long ago. Arrest him.

Means something somewhere but notice "Russian authorities" didn't negotiate with Prigozhin. Still the whole thing leaves a lot of questions still to be answered and a black eye internationally... unless it was to reinforce the "crazy russians" thing... cue the Rasputin song by Boney M

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Guys, the Wagners just took a wrong turn to Kiev and suddenly on their way to Moscow and then they were embarrassed with charm and gave the excuse of wanting coups...
You're back on the right track now... boys

It was all staged. Calm down. No one died. All fake.

Tbf Backman you were also one of the many running around like a headless chicken yesterday and don't pretend that you weren't

Damn rights I was. Regardless how real it was, it was a total fucking disaster own-goal in the info warfare space. It gave he western public a fucking shot of propaganda heroin just as the withdrawals were starting to kick in. Yet another thing in the neocon imagination that was not supposed to be true. And yet Russia still somehow manages to make these dreams look like they are coming true. The western public is as invested as ever in this war. This was equal to if not better than the Kharkov fuckup for the western public and all of the western politicians that fund this war.

Just when there was skeptical politicians in the west, ready to start that awkward conversation and now boom. Everyone is as high as ever on this war.

Who pays for all the damaged roads and so on?

Backman wrote:

Tbf Backman you were also one of the many running around like a headless chicken yesterday and don't pretend that you weren't

Damn rights I was. Regardless how real it was, it was a total fucking disaster own-goal in the info warfare space. It gave he western public a fucking shot of propaganda heroin just as the withdrawals were starting to kick in. Yet another thing in the neocon imagination that was not supposed to be true. And yet Russia still somehow manages to make these dreams look like they are coming true. The western public is as invested as ever in this war. This was equal to if not better than the Kharkov fuckup for the western public and all of the western politicians that fund this war.

Just when there was skeptical politicians in the west, ready to start that awkward conversation and now boom. Everyone is as high as ever on this war.

Don't worry mate, we all were. None of us knows what is actually happening.

"Yevgeny Prigozhin to move to Belarus in exchange for dropping criminal charges, announces Kremlin

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov detailed certain aspects of the agreement negotiated by Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko. Wagner fighters who did not take part in the rebellion will have to sign a contract with the Ministry of Defense, while others will not be prosecuted "in recognition of services rendered".

Criminal proceedings against Yevgeny Prigozhin have been dropped, but he will have to move to Belarus. The Kremlin has, however, assured us that it does not know the whereabouts of the Wagner militia leader. This rebellion will "in no way" affect the fighting in Ukraine, added the spokesman."

Hole wrote:
Last line is still under debate.

Since Prigozhin  wont go to trial he was simply carrying out Putin's order.  The question is what was the objective? do check Shoigu?  Gerasimov? IMHO  unlikely
but there are lots of " parquet generals" ( Rus: паркетные генералы) guys never took part in wars, totally unsuitable to lead units. Poor  in war but good in office games and making owne life better.  Perhaps so much that are ready to work with enemy to return to "good old times" Prighozin were claiming about traitors in general staff some time ago.

Let's see what happens now

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A good number of you fags have already "prepared" the fall of Moscow here today.
Even the French had better thinking than you...
Hats off to three people, Alamo (as expected), Hole and Airbornewolf.
To the rest - **** you all...!!!

To make sure there is no confusion, I have no excuses and when something is wrong, I will write it. You are fucking MEMBERS of the forum, that is a pierced condom - no one cares about your opinion. And once again - screw you..

Arsenic wrote:What about the helicopters that were shot down? Rybar talked about it!

Of course. This could all be swept under the rug but Rybar and Fighter Bomber insist that the world needs to know exactly how many Russian on Russian deaths there was in this needless embarrassment.