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    Post  nomadski Wed Jul 19, 2023 7:52 pm

    Under all circumstances , the only way to end the war for Russia is to destroy the Orcs Army 100 % : Condition one , , Russia stayed in old borders , then Orcs will advance to Russia borders with NATO help . Condition two , Russia liberated LDPR , then Orcs will advance to Russia borders with NATO help . Condition three , Russia liberated entire Ukraine , then Orcs now stationed in Poland , will advance to Russia borders . However just before this whole thing kicked off , I used to think that NATO unlikely to do that much , if Russia aimed to achieve minimal objectives of liberating just LDPR . I also used to think that territorial liberation of LDPR was possible , without a prolonged war of attrition , that Kiev will come to accept defeat .

    But , since the SMO dragged on , and red lines were crossed by NATO , and little or no retaliation was made against them , and they then did much more , and the Orcs were Breast fed by them , and they became a fully fledged proxy force and arm of NATO . Then the war became a NATO war , that was simply waged from Ukraine . Then territorial liberation of Ukraine in part or whole , would not end the war .

    Territorial liberation in my mind was the prime objective , thinking that any killing was only a means to an end , that was achievable . However , I now have to agree with papadragon  . Territorial liberation can not be achieved without the extermination of the Orcs . I used to think that papadragon was bloodthirsty , saying " ...kill...kill... " But he is right . They must be destroyed 100% . Territorial liberation is now a means to an end of extermination of Orcs .

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    Post  Hole Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:09 pm

    Thank you bro, I stand corrected from now on! 
    General Milley will thank you personally later. He is one of the greatest military thinkers of our time:

    "and especially if they (the Ukros) execute the tactics, techniques and procedures that they've been taught, which they are doing, and execute these operations at night, which would deny the Russians the ability to use any of their airpower anyway."

    lol1
    Still believing their own lies that Russkies can´t fight in the dark. Because they are scared or whatever.  dunno
    Are we waiting for fiery entertainment?
    After the massive use of Onyx missiles against land targets it´s about time one of them is used against their natural foe.

    Full message from the MoD:

    In connection with the termination of the Black Sea Initiative and the curtailment of the maritime humanitarian corridor, from 00:00 Moscow time on July 20, 2023, all ships proceeding to Ukrainian ports in the Black Sea waters will be considered as potential carriers of military cargo. Accordingly, the flag countries of such ships will be considered involved in the Ukrainian conflict on the side of the Kyiv regime. In addition, a number of sea areas in the northwestern and southeastern parts of the international waters of the Black Sea have been declared temporarily dangerous for navigation. Appropriate informational warnings about the withdrawal of safety guarantees to seafarers were issued in accordance with the established procedure.

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    Post  Arrow Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:15 pm

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    Post  mnztr Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:16 pm

    nomadski wrote:Under all circumstances , the only way to end the war for Russia is to destroy the Orcs Army 100 % : Condition one , , Russia stayed in old borders , then Orcs will advance to Russia borders with NATO help . Condition two , Russia liberated LDPR , then Orcs will advance to Russia borders with NATO help . Condition three , Russia liberated entire Ukraine , then Orcs now stationed in Poland , will advance to Russia borders . However just before this whole thing kicked off , I used to think that NATO unlikely to do that much , if Russia aimed to achieve minimal objectives of liberating just LDPR . I also used to think that territorial liberation of LDPR was possible , without a prolonged war of attrition , that Kiev will come to accept defeat  .

    But , since the SMO dragged on , and red lines were crossed by NATO , and little or no retaliation was made against them , and they then did much more , and the Orcs were Breast fed by them , and they became a fully fledged proxy force and arm of NATO . Then the war became a NATO war , that was simply waged from Ukraine . Then territorial liberation of Ukraine in part or whole , would not end the war .

    Territorial liberation in my mind was the prime objective , thinking that any killing was only a means to an end , that was achievable . However , I now have to agree with papadragon  . Territorial liberation can not be achieved without the extermination of the Orcs . I used to think that papadragon was bloodthirsty , saying " ...kill...kill... " But he is right . They must be destroyed 100% . Territorial liberation is now a means to an end of extermination of Orcs .


    That is the hard way. Close the western border and the house of card will collapse It will take some effort, but still be easier then this macabre affair with young Russians dying in lesser but significant numbers then Ukrainians.

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:31 pm

    mnztr wrote:No need to address those idiots. you can send messages by attacking their offices.

    I mean Turdogan as well as anyone in the rest of NATO harboring hopes to see the deal revived

    Nice little reality-check to Zelensky too of course and the Ukronationalist retards who wanted to see Turkish ships running the Russian blockade. Not going to be anywhere to go to now.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:39 pm

    New US package. Item 11 may be a bit late Smile

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    Post  ucmvulcan Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:43 pm

    Arrow wrote:
    and in a few hours we will see lots and lots of dead leopards and Omar's ghosts litering the battlefield just like the last 100 attempts. Its reaching Blackadder proportions:


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    Post  JohninMK Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:44 pm

    Arrow wrote:

    Seems that didn't go well, again.

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    The enemy's losses in these areas amounted to more than 170 Ukrainian troops, two tanks, nine armored combat vehicles, four cars, howitzer "MSTA-B", three D-20 guns, self-propelled artillery "Gvozdika", as well as a radar counterbattery combat production of the USA AN/TPQ-50

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:46 pm

    Hole wrote:
    In connection with the termination of the Black Sea Initiative and the curtailment of the maritime humanitarian corridor, from 00:00 Moscow time on July 20, 2023, all ships proceeding to Ukrainian ports in the Black Sea waters will be considered as potential carriers of military cargo. Accordingly, the flag countries of such ships will be considered involved in the Ukrainian conflict on the side of the Kyiv regime. In addition, a number of sea areas in the northwestern and southeastern parts of the international waters of the Black Sea have been declared temporarily dangerous for navigation. Appropriate informational warnings about the withdrawal of safety guarantees to seafarers were issued in accordance with the established procedure.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:47 pm

    Sujoy wrote:Polish meltdown. Poor guy didn't get the drift that Anglo-Saxons are basically promoting anti India hate with these polls.




    You are being manipulated, I have no idea what poll is that, but I heard that recently 60% of people in Poland are opposed to providing assistance to Ukraine.




    Ethnic Poles are the victims of the Ukrainians:


    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html


    http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/460/land-zamosc-zamojszczyzna-1942-1944



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    Post  JohninMK Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:00 pm

    UkAF can't have many pilots left, the all went onto F-16 course Smile

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    "So far, 10 MiG-29s have been handed over, but it is possible that Poland will hand over the rest - about 20 aircraft of this type that they still have in service. However, this will most likely happen after Poland starts receiving aircraft from Western countries."

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    Post  Godric Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:11 pm

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:

    You are being manipulated, I have no idea what poll is that, but I heard that recently 60% of people in Poland are opposed to providing assistance to Ukraine.




    Ethnic Poles are the victims of the Ukrainians:


    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html


    http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/460/land-zamosc-zamojszczyzna-1942-1944




    i play a game called Topwar and one of my friend is Polish, in our alliance we had a group of Russians before they joined our alliance he went along with the Russians evil narrative until he found out they were just normal people, i told him to look up Stephan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych and read the crimes they committed against Polish people during WW2 and that these guys were made national heroes of Ukraine as well as glorifying the SS and using there emblems .... his opinions changed after reading about it

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:11 pm

    Russian Defence Ministry report (https://t.me/mod_russia_en/8479) on the progress of the special military operation - 19 July 2023

    ▫The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out a group strike with sea- and air-based precision weapons against military industry facilities, fuel infrastructure and ammunition depots of the AFU close to Odessa and also against enemy Kanatovo airbase of the Ukrainian Air Force in Kirovograd region. All the assigned targets have been neutralised. The goal of the attack has been reached.

    ▫In Kupyansk direction, units of the Zapad Group of Forces continue successful offensive operations in the area of responsibility.

    ▫Over the course of the day, Russian troops advanced more than a kilometre in depth and up to two kilometres along the front. The advancing units seized Molchanovo railway station (Kharkov region).

    ▫Аs a result of aviation and artillery attacks, AFU units have been hit close to Sinkovka, Kislovka and Berestovoye (Kharkov region) and Novosyolovskoye LPR.

    ▫1 ammunition depot of the AFU 103th Brigade of the Territorial Defence of Ukraine has been destroyed near Peschanoye (Kharkov region).

    ▫The enemy losses were up to 70 servicemen, 2 AFVs, 3 motor vehicles, and self-propelled artillery systems: Polish-manufactured Krab and Gvozdika, as well as 1 U.S.-manufactured AN/TPQ-50 counter-battery radar station.

    ▫The AFU continued to attempt offensive actions in Donetsk, Krasny Liman and South Donetsk directions.

    ▫In Donetsk direction, as a result of action by Yug Group of Forces, 25 enemy attacks have been successfully repelled close to Belogorovka, Pervomayskoye, Nevelskoye, Maryinka, Severnoye and north-west of Kleshcheevka DPR.

    ▫AFU manpower and hardware have been hit near Seversk, Chasov Yar, Toretsk and Krasnogorovka DPR.

    ▫1 ammunition depot of the AFU 110th Mechanised Brigade has been destroyed near Avdeevka DPR.

    ▫The enemy losses were up to 340 servicemen, 2 tanks, 3 AFVs, 4 pickup trucks, 1 German-manufactured Panzerhaubitze 2000 self-propelled howitzer, 2 Polish-manufactured Krab self-propelled artillery systems, 1 Gvozdika self-propelled artillery systems, and 2 D-30 howitzers.

    ▫In Krasny Liman direction, units of the Tsentr Group of Forces have repelled 4 enemy attacks close to Karmazinovka, Shipilovka, Kremennaya and Belogorovka LPR.

    ▫AFU units have been hit close to Novosadovoye, Yampolovka and Serebryanka DPR.

    ▫The actions of 1 SRG have been disrupted close to Torskoye DPR.

    ▫1 ammunition depot of the AFU 100th Territorial Defence Brigade has been destroyed near Yampol DPR.

    ▫The enemy losses were up to 100 servicemen, 2 AFVs, 3 motor vehicles, 2 Gvozdika self-propelled artillery systems, and 2 D-30 howitzers.

    ▫In South Donetsk direction, as a result of actions by the Vostok Group of Forces, an enemy attack has been repelled close to Rabotino (Zaporozhye region).

    ▫AFU manpower and hardware have been hit near Priyutnoye (Zaporozhye region), Makarovka and Rovnopol DPR.

    ▫The actions of 1 SRG have been disrupted close to Staromayorskoye DPR.

    ▫In Zaporozhye direction, manpower and hardware clusters of the AFU have been hit close to Novopokrovka and Malaya Tokmachka (Zaporozhye region).

    ▫The actions of 1 SRG have been suppressed near Marfopol (Zaporozhye region).

    ▫7 ammunition depots of the 23rd, 33rd mechanised, 128th mountain assault and 44th artillery brigades of the AFU have been destroyed near Berezovoye (Dnepropetrovsk region), Malaya Tokmachka, Rabotino, Preobrazhenka, Uspenovka and Novoyakovlevka (Zaporozhye region).

    ▫The enemy losses were up to 170 servicemen, 2 tanks, 9 AFVs, 4 motor vehicles, 1 Msta-B howitzer, 3 D-20 guns, 1 Gvozdika self-propelled artillery system, and 1 U.S.-manufactured AN/TPQ-50 counter-battery radar station.

    ▫In Kherson direction the enemy losses were up to 50 servicemen, 1 AFV, 3 pickup trucks and 1 D-30 howitzer.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:16 pm

    This might have been the night before last. Another report said mercs and trainers were there.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:17 pm

    Godric wrote:
    Odin of Ossetia wrote:

    You are being manipulated, I have no idea what poll is that, but I heard that recently 60% of people in Poland are opposed to providing assistance to Ukraine.




    Ethnic Poles are the victims of the Ukrainians:


    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html


    http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/460/land-zamosc-zamojszczyzna-1942-1944




    i play a game called Topwar and one of my friend is Polish, in our alliance we had a group of Russians before they joined our alliance he went along with the Russians evil narrative until he found out they were just normal people, i told him to look up Stephan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych and read the crimes they committed against Polish people during WW2 and that these guys were made national heroes of Ukraine as well as glorifying the SS and using there emblems .... his opinions changed after reading about it



    In Poland there are many stupid and subservient people.

    In addition to that, many regions in Poland never really had to deal with the Ukrainian nationalists; there is a very uneven geographic distribution in Poland of the ethnic Poles having dealt with them in the past.

    There is also lots of propaganda and manipulation by the ruling German-Ukrainian mafia in Poland.



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    Post  Hole Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:50 pm

    New US package. 
    Usually you send recovery and towing equipment before half of your armored force is littering the fields.

    harbor without insurance.
    Exactly that point (insurance) was made by some greek shipowner yesterday. Without russian guarantees no civilian ship will move towards some harbor in 404.

    Kiev has already received 10 MiG-29 fighter jets 
    Ex-GDR machines. Donated to Poland from Germany years ago.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:10 pm

    One hour to go, before Russia pledges to sink all vessels in the Black Sea bound for (or exiting) UA ports.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:37 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Thank you bro, I stand corrected from now on! 
    General Milley will thank you personally later. He is one of the greatest military thinkers of our time:

    "and especially if they (the Ukros) execute the tactics, techniques and procedures that they've been taught, which they are doing, and execute these operations at night, which would deny the Russians the ability to use any of their airpower anyway."

    lol1
    Still believing their own lies that Russkies can´t fight in the dark. Because they are scared or whatever.  dunno
    Are we waiting for fiery entertainment?
    After the massive use of Onyx missiles against land targets it´s about time one of them is used against their natural foe.

    Full message from the MoD:

    In connection with the termination of the Black Sea Initiative and the curtailment of the maritime humanitarian corridor, from 00:00 Moscow time on July 20, 2023, all ships proceeding to Ukrainian ports in the Black Sea waters will be considered as potential carriers of military cargo. Accordingly, the flag countries of such ships will be considered involved in the Ukrainian conflict on the side of the Kyiv regime. In addition, a number of sea areas in the northwestern and southeastern parts of the international waters of the Black Sea have been declared temporarily dangerous for navigation. Appropriate informational warnings about the withdrawal of safety guarantees to seafarers were issued in accordance with the established procedure.

    My God, they actually believe their misinformation. That is how you lose wars. I'd hate to be an American Taxpay. . . Oh sonovabich. Damn it.

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:43 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    Arrow wrote:https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1681705698093047808?s=20
    and in a few hours we will see lots and lots of dead leopards and Omar's ghosts litering the battlefield just like the last 100 attempts.  Its reaching Blackadder proportions:
    ....

    Yeah

    Poor Omar deserved better

    Like the man said: "Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war than about peace, more about killing than we know about living."



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    Post  mnztr Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:24 am

    ucmvulcan wrote:

    My God, they actually believe their misinformation.  That is how you lose wars.  I'd hate to be an American Taxpay. . .  Oh sonovabich.  Damn it.

    Isn't this the same shithead that was in charge of the Afghan debacle?
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    Post  mnztr Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:39 am

    So Putin will not attend BRICS in person. I was hoping for a stronger response to warrants. Something like:  ICC warrants that result in an arrest of a Russian National will result in a response from Russia that can include the full force of the Russian military against any nations, persons or companies that are involved.

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    Post  PhSt Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:06 am

    mnztr wrote:So Putin will not attend BRICS in person. I was hoping for a stronger response to warrants.


    Putin not attending the summit will give NATO the impression that their slimy antics with the ICC is showing promising results. Since South Africa is a member of BRICS, it needs to be required to leave this NATO front agency, in fact, all BRICS and SCO members need not be a member of these NATO controlled organizations.

    I hope this is just a temporary move, Russia together with BRICS needs to DISMANTLE the entire Western world order attack

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    Post  mnztr Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:17 am

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1681678474254098436

    agonizing effort to get away from burning vehicle.
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    Post  mnztr Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:19 am

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1681576428884619264

    Platoon wiped out by a single well placed mortar round. Anyone have any idea how they are so accurate?
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    Post  ucmvulcan Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:15 am


    I see that doritos, lawn mowers, and washing machines are erasing Odessa, does anyone have pics?

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