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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:49 pm

    Interesting ignitions. The site was ablaze before the video starts.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:46 pm

    it was today Paratroopers day in Russia.
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    Everyone remembers the RF VDV's finest moments?.

    I certainly do Wink

    i Served over a decade in Airborne, and i only could dream of a gostromel-like mission.
    Sadly, i never had the chance.  paratrooper  but luckily for me, RF forces documented theirs.
    It is one for the history books, and will be told about for decades to come.

    24th February 2022. VDV Gostomel Assault 2.0

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:49 am

    That opening music... gets ones fighting blood up to pressure. attack

    Hilarious that NAFO ck suckers are still claiming the VDV were "wiped out" by the Ukie response Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz

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    Post  bandit6 Thu Aug 03, 2023 2:32 am

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/cargo-ship-enters-danube-despite-russias-black-sea-shipping-threat

    According to this article, cargo ships are still headed to ukraine, another red line crossed, ruskies have been cucked again

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    Post  PhSt Thu Aug 03, 2023 2:59 am

    cucked6 wrote:https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/cargo-ship-enters-danube-despite-russias-black-sea-shipping-threat

    According to this article, cargo ships are still headed to ukraine, another MINE FIELD crossed, bandit6 have been cucked again


    While all of Ukraine is burning, here you are waiting for the opportune moment such as this just so you can bark your favorite word of the day Laughing

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:10 am

    bandit6 wrote:https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/cargo-ship-enters-danube-despite-russias-black-sea-shipping-threat

    According to this article, cargo ships are still headed to ukraine, another red line crossed, ruskies have been cucked again

    Well they know Putin won't actually sink their civilian ships, it was a bluff and NATO called it

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    Post  mnztr Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:47 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    bandit6 wrote:https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/cargo-ship-enters-danube-despite-russias-black-sea-shipping-threat

    According to this article, cargo ships are still headed to ukraine, another red line crossed, ruskies have been cucked again

    Well they know Putin won't actually sink their civilian ships, it was a bluff and NATO called it

    He would prefer not to. That is why they attacked the port and blew up the grain these twits went there to collect.

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:13 am

    bandit6 wrote:https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/cargo-ship-enters-danube-despite-russias-black-sea-shipping-threat

    According to this article, cargo ships are still headed to ukraine, another red line crossed, ruskies have been cucked again

    No, those ships entered the Danube, on which there is a Ukrainian port at Izmail, but only the right bank is Ukrainian, the left bank is Romanian - and that means it's impossible for Russia to blockade this waterway or stop ships going there without that being an act of war against Romania too.

    So what Russia did instead is just detonate the Ukrainian port of Izmail as the fireworks over the last few days have shown.

    What the Ukrainians will do next is transfer that grain over the river to Romania first and it will be loaded up there. And Russia can't do anything about that but that's okay. Throughput will still be considerably reduced.

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Well they know Putin won't actually sink their civilian ships, it was a bluff and NATO called it

    Russian warships are perfectly capable of intercepting and the boarding vessels and towing them back to port without having to sink them.

    But neither is an option here like I said.

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    Post  bandit6 Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:43 am

    PhSt wrote:
    cucked6 wrote:https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/cargo-ship-enters-danube-despite-russias-black-sea-shipping-threat

    According to this article, cargo ships are still headed to ukraine, another MINE FIELD crossed, bandit6 have been cucked again


    While all of Ukraine is burning, here you are waiting for the opportune moment such as this just so you can bark your favorite word of the day Laughing

    I am actually extremely proRussia
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    Post  mnztr Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:13 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    bandit6 wrote:https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/cargo-ship-enters-danube-despite-russias-black-sea-shipping-threat

    According to this article, cargo ships are still headed to ukraine, another red line crossed, ruskies have been cucked again

    No, those ships entered the Danube, on which there is a Ukrainian port at Izmail, but only the right bank is Ukrainian, the left bank is Romanian - and that means it's impossible for Russia to blockade this waterway or stop ships going there without that being an act of war against Romania too.

    So what Russia did instead is just detonate the Ukrainian port of Izmail as the fireworks over the last few days have shown.

    What the Ukrainians will do next is transfer that grain over the river to Romania first and it will be loaded up there. And Russia can't do anything about that but that's okay. Throughput will still be considerably reduced.

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Well they know Putin won't actually sink their civilian ships, it was a bluff and NATO called it

    Russian warships are perfectly capable of intercepting and the boarding vessels and towing them back to port without having to sink them.

    But neither is an option here like I said.

    If any ships are involved in ferrying anything to romania they are legit targets
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    Post  ALAMO Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:43 am

    If those wave Ukro banners, then yes.
    If not, it would be considered an act of piracy.

    Sometimes it is really enough to read some of you to figure the difference between a cool head strategic planning and headless chicken-like behavior.

    Only a declaration has suspended most of the insurance in the area and has left the operators cold-handed. They can carry on traffic, but at their own risk. Call me surprised with the situation as we speak ...

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    Oh yeah, more breast beating and sabble rattling is needed, because some armchair field marshall is not happy with the outcome. Not enough blood he has seen yet. Buy Netflix.

    Anyway, to expedite anything from Ismail, it must be supplied there first. Russkie has no possibility to interrupt deliveries via Danube, and to make you get a better picture, it means the river connection up to the North Sea. But they can perfectly well disrupt the possibilities to deliver anything unloaded there, or to be delivered there for loading.
    Or they can eradicate the whole port facility - which seems that they are doing for a fourth day in a row.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:36 am



    Video shows a few things, including Hinds with DIRCMS turrets at about 2 minutes 45 seconds onwards... one turret either side near the undercarriage just behind the cabin doors, and another turret under the tail...

    ▪There is hysteria in Ukrainian media: the port in Izmail is one of the main ports on the Danube, which means that Ukraine is losing not only sea exports, but also river ones.

    A lot of weapons and ammo probably arrived via these ports too... good to get rid of them.

    In a few years time they can be built up sending goods and things to Serbia and other Russian friendly countries....


    The problem is with that strat you kill rate depends on Ukraine, and again going by the current rate using this strat it will take around a decade to take out 90 percent of their manpower and Russia doesn't have a decade to keep doing this

    If the alternative is some new Minsk like agreement where the US and EU will simply just build kiev up for having another go in 5 or 10 years then Russia will take as long as it takes to get this done right.

    It is the west that is getting distracted and is throwing money they don't really have at the problems and soon elections will shift their focus and will likely lead to some trying to make Kiev essential to the existence of the west and the other politicians should have no problems pointing out how absurd that really is and how Kiev really has nothing at all to do with western values such that they are.

    It is the west that is running out of patience and having to pay a high price in the only way they care... the price of energy and food and creaking infrastructure that has been ignored for the longest time...

    And all this talk of asylum in Hungary, then escaping to Serbia. Mercouris even suggested he should go back to the US

    It would look hilarious if he did get to the US and they arrested him and sent him back to Kiev to face trial...

    Had he gone anywhere else, to South America or some European country that pretends to safeguard human rights - he would have been rotting in a US jail for years by now.

    Exactly... he would only be safe in a country the US does not control.

    Instead he released 3 videos just before his escape attempt which only served to incriminate him for what he was about to do.

    He thinks the internet will save him... idiot.


    Yeah releasing videos of you trying to cross the border and probably doing so in a secure area really wasn't a smart idea....at all

    But think of how many likes he is getting... Rolling Eyes What a Face Some people think fame makes you safe, but in this case it makes him a target... they didn't like him saying what he said in the Ukraine... imagine what he could say if he was out of reach in another country...

    The only way to properly conduct a defense in the face of persistent ISR and PGMs on tap is the mobile active defense. You launch dozens of hit and run attacks that leave the enemies command and control busy with firefighting, then you assemble a strike package that fucks them up someplace else where they aren't looking.

    Except when the enemy has good firepower and good communications then these pin prick attacks don't add up to very much and the chance of losing each attacking group means you are quickly going to run out of the highly trained individuals needed for such operations.


    Another aspect of this war is, the economical, the longer this goes on, the more economical damage, the collective west(especially the EU) takes. Which is very good for Russia.

    And Russia is also using this to extract western leaning Russians and separating them from their assets and incomes where ever possible, and of course the seized Russian assets abroad forced those who could to move everything back to Russia and if they can't invest in the west they either have their money sitting doing nothing or start investing in the Russian economy.

    That is a very poor assumption that a US passport can guarantee ANYTHING. Especially when you oppose the current regime in the whitehouse and are a dual.

    Service in the US military didn't protect Manning, and US citizenship would not protect Snowden either, and Assange would not benefit from US citizenship either...

    According to this article, cargo ships are still headed to ukraine, another red line crossed, ruskies have been cucked again

    The drive... so it must be true right?

    But you do understand the Danube is a river that goes in to the Black Sea, so a boat from Europe heads down the Danube and stops in the Ukraine... still in the Danube... hasn't entered the Black Sea at all.

    You have been fooled by pathetic western propaganda... if those ships do go into the Black Sea the Russians will likely stop and search them or turn them back, but why would they go to the Black Sea.

    I am actually extremely proRussia

    So why are you pumping "the drive" western propaganda shit onto this forum?

    Spewing out crap without checking anything or even thinking about it is not being pro Russia.


    If any ships are involved in ferrying anything to romania they are legit targets

    There is evidence they have been using civilian cargo ships to move weapons and ammo and explosives, so if they can't inspect them they might just decide to sink them... blow the entire front off the ships... they will no doubt sink and the chances of fatalities on board would be relatively low.

    If not, it would be considered an act of piracy.

    Not at all. You try to land supplies to a country at war then you are part of the logistics and therefore a legitimate target...

    But they can perfectly well disrupt the possibilities to deliver anything unloaded there, or to be delivered there for loading.
    Or they can eradicate the whole port facility - which seems that they are doing for a fourth day in a row.

    Destroying the port facilities and nearby warehouses seems to be their option of choice, but ships making deliveries are certainly fair game in a warzone.

    You can't claim to be neutral while shipping things to only one side in the conflict.... that breaks the definition of neutrality.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:44 am

    Seems the west is not happy with Russia taking out ports in the Ukraine...

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:49 am

    The river there is about 500 m wide.
    How in detail do you want to sink ships traveling between both banks, considering that one is a NATO member state-owned?
    And by the way, some 100k up the river flow you have another big port of Reni/UA, and Moldovan/Romanian Gurgulesti that can't be affected in any way.

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    Post  Isos Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:59 am

    ALAMO wrote:The river there is about 500 m wide.
    How in detail do you want to sink ships traveling between both banks, considering that one is a NATO member state-owned?
    And by the way, some 100k up the river flow you have another big port of Reni/UA, and Moldovan/Romanian Gurgulesti that can't be affected in any way.

    Destroy them when they are in the port.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:26 am

    There will hardly be anything better today Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Sujoy Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:11 am

    GarryB wrote:Except when the enemy has good firepower and good communications then these pin prick attacks don't add up to very much and the chance of losing each attacking group means you are quickly going to run out of the highly trained individuals needed for such operations
    For example 2S6 Tunguska keeps its targeting radar down. It uses IRST to prevent anti radiation missiles from targeting it.

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    Post  Firebird Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:11 am

    Airbornewolf wrote:it was today Paratroopers day in Russia.
     russia

    Everyone remembers the RF VDV's finest moments?.

    I certainly do Wink

    i Served over a decade in Airborne, and i only could dream of a gostromel-like mission.
    Sadly, i never had the chance.  paratrooper  but luckily for me, RF forces documented theirs.
    It is one for the history books, and will be told about for decades to come.

    24th February 2022. VDV Gostomel Assault 2.0

    A big question is whether Russia should have capitalised on its capture more.
    Massive columns of Russian equipment were lined up outside Kiev. And such was the Pukr junta's army, Russia's equipment was completely safe. If Kiev was liberated, I doubt much of the rest of junta occupied Pukraine would remain.

    But anyway Russia certainly kicked the filthy Banderite arses during that op. A truly heroic performance.

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    Post  Arrow Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:15 am

    The big question is whether Russia should have capitalised on its capture more. Massive columns of Russian equipment were lined up outside Kiev. And such was the Pukr junta's army, Russia's equipment was completely safe. If Kiev was liberated, I doubt much of the rest of junta occupied Pukraine would remain. wrote:

    Russia had far too few forces to conquer Kiev.

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    Post  Firebird Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:27 am

    Arrow wrote:

    Russia had far too few forces to conquer Kiev.

    I think its forces were far too small in general terms.

    But the Banderastani army was pretty weak. Very weak in equipment and not that much larger in manpower terms.
    Perhaps a decapitation operation vs the puppet regime. After all, elensky might pretend to be nice, but lets be honest that turd was going to blitz the Donbass and Crimea and happily applauds Banderites and names streets after Bandera.

    BUT the fact is, Russia did Gostomel. That would suggest there was some sort of strategy there and not just a hustle.
    COuld Russia have brought more currently serving forces over?

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:46 am

    You are still missing the clue.
    Russia won this war by April 2022.
    Single-handed.
    UE officials were terrified, A whole of Europe cried how they will not fuel up the conflict.
    Cocainsky was moaning about non aligned status. Being in Poland.
    And the remains of Ukrowehrmacht was wandering around Kiev with fear in their eyes.
    The peace accord has already been partially signed.

    And then Johnson arrived. Bribed, or threatened, or both Cocainsky and Europeans and forced all this circus to reopen.

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    Post  Belisarius Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:09 am

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    400,000 KILLED 2 MILLION WOUNDED / DISABLED ?

    Ukraine’s utterly unsustainable massive war losses:

    Over the past year and a half, independent Ukrainian journalists have identified 284,000 Ukrainian military obituaries posted by their families and friends on social media.

    In November 2022, the number of obituaries broke a record of 1,100 per day, with an average of 400 new obituaries published daily.

    This number would easily double or triple to include those who are reported missing, cannot be identified, or whose deaths are not notified to relatives.

    New satellite images show at 1 cemetery alone, pictured above – Matveevskoye in Zaporozhye, Kiev-held East Ukraine – 104 THOUSAND SQUARE METERS more grave space has been dug.

    In just 7 cemeteries, there are 123,000 fresh graves.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:57 am

    We have the same thing here in Australia.  We call them land-fills.  It the same thing, a piece of land in which to bury garbage and forget about it.  Twisted Evil

    At least one Ukropi profession is in increased demand.  Banderite gravediggers should pay a portion of their earnings to Russia as a sign of thanks.  Convert it first into a useful currency however, cuz no-one wants or needs that hryvnia trash.

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    Post  LMFS Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:03 pm

    bandit6 wrote:I am actually extremely proRussia

    Like Strelkov and the rest of the scum calling for regime change Laughing off you go

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    Post  Hole Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:03 pm

    If Kiev was liberated
    The shitshow was never led from Kiev. Taking the city had changed nothing.

    I hope Russians are making a movie about the assault on Gostomel.  Cool

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