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    Post  Firebird Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:04 pm

    I read that Kiev is building a military cemetery that is half the size of the biggest civilian one in Britain. And proportionate to the biggest military cemetery in the World. Bear in mind that the war has been going on 17months, not multiple years, those are pretty staggering stats.

    Also think that some of Russia's most heroic fighters are actually Chechens, who 20 yrs ago were rabidly against Russia.

    America and Europe are committing a genocide of Ukrainians because they know, sooner or later, there will be Ukrainians who will free themselves from NATO oppression and/or wake up to reality and see thro the regime's lies. So NATO are trying to kill these soldiers off before that happens.

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:08 pm

    Firebird wrote:

    Also think that some of Russia's most heroic fighters are actually Chechens, who 20 yrs ago were rabidly against Russia.

    America and Europe are committing a genocide of Ukrainians because they know, sooner or later, there will be Ukrainians who will free themselves from NATO oppression and/or wake up to reality and see thro the regime's lies. So NATO are trying to kill these soldiers off before that happens.

    Maybe in ten years people from Lvov, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankovsk and Vinnitsia will be all Russian patriots

    Very Happy Very Happy Laughing

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    Post  Pincus Shain Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:37 pm

    Been following these threads for a while. I just wanted to comment and say I find them a useful source of information and completely refreshing compared to the deluded crap on Twitter et al about how Russia is fighting with ww1 rifles and bayonets.

    Thank you to all the posters who are taking time to share information and news.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:38 pm



    Pay attention to two details.
    First, it is BM rounds being loaded.
    Second, take a look inside carousel - an unusual mix of almost all rounds being OF. No BK visible at all.

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    Post  Firebird Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:50 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
    Firebird wrote:

    Also think that some of Russia's most heroic fighters are actually Chechens, who 20 yrs ago were rabidly against Russia.

    America and Europe are committing a genocide of Ukrainians because they know, sooner or later, there will be Ukrainians who will free themselves from NATO oppression and/or wake up to reality and see thro the regime's lies. So NATO are trying to kill these soldiers off before that happens.

    Maybe in ten years people from Lvov, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankovsk and Vinnitsia will be all Russian patriots

    Very Happy Very Happy Laughing

    I suspect the current war generation might not necessarily that much. But maybe their children will be. I suspect those in the Central Ukrainian areas might see the error of their ways sooner.
    Or the pro West dickheads will just **** off West, or stay in the West.
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    Post  kvs Thu Aug 03, 2023 2:22 pm

    The western true Ukrs are a total lost cause. There is no way they will return to their roots from 1000 years ago. They are a new
    ethnic group and Russia should not even attempt to absorb them. This is why Ukria has to exist in the future. Partition is essential
    to restore historical justice and to frustrate NATzO's ambitions. Pushing to the Polish border is not necessary. NATzO granting rump
    Ukria membership would be ideal, since then we have no proxy game. Any staging of aggression against Russia from rump Ukria would
    be NATzO aggression and NATzO is not prepared for this.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:42 pm

    Firebird wrote:....
    A big question is whether Russia should have capitalised on its capture more.
    Massive columns of Russian equipment were lined up outside Kiev. And such was the Pukr junta's army, Russia's equipment was completely safe. If Kiev was liberated, I doubt much of the rest of junta occupied Pukraine would remain...

    Russian troops who tried to approach Kiev were assraped, castrated and exterminated by highly motivated and dedicated Nazis with fanatical support of entire population

    The whole Russian "war plan" was a bad joke built on dead ideology and wishful thinking

    You can't liberate Kiev because those who live in Kiev see themselves as already free

    Only thing that can and should be done is to torch it to the ground and exile/exterminate Nazis who inhabit it


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    Post  Firebird Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:44 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Firebird wrote:....
    A big question is whether Russia should have capitalised on its capture more.
    Massive columns of Russian equipment were lined up outside Kiev. And such was the Pukr junta's army, Russia's equipment was completely safe. If Kiev was liberated, I doubt much of the rest of junta occupied Pukraine would remain...

    Russian troops who tried to approach Kiev were assraped, castrated and exterminated by highly motivated and dedicated Nazis with fanatical support of entire population

    The whole Russian "war plan" was a bad joke built on dead ideology and wishful thinking

    You can't liberate Kiev because those who live in Kiev see themselves as already free

    Only thing that can and should be done is to torch it to the ground and exile/exterminate Nazis who inhabit it



    Are u in a competition with Argentinian Guard, Vann's new username and the rest of the usual suspects to see who can come up with the most ridiculous posts?

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:48 pm

    ALAMO wrote:You are still missing the clue.
    Russia won this war by April 2022.
    Single-handed.
    UE officials were terrified, A whole of Europe cried how they will not fuel up the conflict.
    Cocainsky was moaning about non aligned status. Being in Poland.
    And the remains of Ukrowehrmacht was wandering around Kiev with fear in their eyes.
    The peace accord has already been partially signed.

    And then Johnson arrived. Bribed, or threatened, or both Cocainsky and Europeans and forced all this circus to reopen.

    If all it took to roll back entire Russian "victory" was one Brit with bad haircut then it was never really a victory

    Taking territory without killing the enemies is not victory, it's setup for defeat

    Russians should be eternally grateful to Johnson, he saved them from swallowing that shmuck bait whole and forced them to actually start working towards actual victory

    Now they just need to restraint themselves from pussying out and fùcking up like they usually do and keep working until the job is actually done


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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:51 pm

    Firebird wrote:....
    Are u in a competition with Argentinian Guard, Vann's new username and the rest of the usual suspects to see who can come up with the most ridiculous posts?

    Go to church and light a candle for your dead Nazis, it will make you feel better

    I hear they even allow commies to enter church these days so you should have no problems getting in

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:59 pm

    Competition for the most clueless and big-mouth forum user is harsh, but your pole position seems inevitable in the long run.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:00 pm

    Firebird wrote:.....
    America and Europe are committing a genocide of Ukrainians because they know, sooner or later, there will be Ukrainians who will free themselves from NATO oppression and/or wake up to reality and see thro the regime's lies. So NATO are trying to kill these soldiers off before that happens.

    It would hardly be the first time America and Europe are doing what Russia should have done ages ago

    Russians should at least send them a gift basket or something out of courtesy

    Ukrainians are finally free which is exactly why they need to be put into the ground just like all the other Nazis


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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:00 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Competition for the most clueless and big-mouth forum user is harsh, but your pole position seems inevitable in the long run.

    Polish traitor says what?
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    Post  ALAMO Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:08 pm

    You must try much better than that, still, I doubt you are capable of it.
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    Post  Sprut-B Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:09 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    And all this talk of asylum in Hungary, then escaping to Serbia. Mercouris even suggested he should go back to the US

    But the guaranteed solution is and was always obvious - go to Russia. Snowden stumbled upon it just by accident, but it's what has kept his ass out of the slammer for the last 10 years. Had he gone anywhere else, to South America or some European country that pretends to safeguard human rights - he would have been rotting in a US jail for years by now.

    Lira should have taken his bike and crossed over to Russian lines; there are passageways which civilians have used to cross over.

    Instead he released 3 videos just before his escape attempt which only served to incriminate him for what he was about to do.

    According to Scott Ritter, Gonzalo Lira is a con artist or perhaps a SBU set-up. Scott doesn't believe in Gonazalo's story and is very suspicious of why he chose to remain inside Ukraine even after knowing everything about how the UkroNazi regime operates. Based on Scott's own experience working for US military intelligence, he sees Gonzalo as a sketchy person.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:11 pm

    ALAMO wrote:You must try much better than that, still, I doubt you are capable of it.

    Polish traitor says what?
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    Post  ALAMO Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:12 pm

    He is utterly dumb, to begin with.
    Everything he did in public just proved a serious brain issue.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:49 pm

    Firebird wrote:...
    I suspect the current war generation might not necessarily that much. But maybe their children will be...

    They said the same thing back when current Nazis were children, care to guess how that worked out?




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    Post  Firebird Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:39 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Firebird wrote:....
    Are u in a competition with Argentinian Guard, Vann's new username and the rest of the usual suspects to see who can come up with the most ridiculous posts?

    Go to church and light a candle for your dead Nazis, it will make you feel better

    I hear they even allow commies to enter church these days so you should have no problems getting in


    On the contrary, I've called for an outright and automatic life ban on Nazis from this forum from the very beginning.
    As for "Commies" I'm not sure on your meaning.

    My point is, we might criticise Russia as outsidersfrom the actual decisionmaking process. But the notion the Nazis have somehow challenged Russia in this op, let alone "assraped" them is ridiculous beyond words.


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    Post  Hole Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:49 pm

    with ww1 rifles and bayonets.
    Bayonets are always useful. Also some of the WW1 rifles were more accurate than todays assault rifles.
    The cleaning procedure was way more complicated thanks to a gazillion parts.  lol1

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    Post  kvs Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:49 pm

    Ritter and Lira have a conflict going way back when he was first "disappeared". I am not sure that Ritter can be considered an objective source on the subject.

    If Lira was a stooge for the Ukr regime, he would still be streaming. They would not disrupt the arrangement to such an extreme extent.

    The larping followed by flipping appears to be a common feature of social media "influencers".

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:57 pm

    I have not heard a single word Ritter said about that mambo jumbo.
    But I remember him broadcasting from Kiev back in Feb 22.

    His behaviors represented a total lack of common sense. Suicidal.
    There are only two answers to that.
    The guy is either an imbecile or an SBU-connected thug. Nobody with more than two brain cells wouldn't broadcast the stuff he did, sitting in the middle of a country at war.
    As easy as that.

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    Post  Firebird Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:38 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Firebird wrote:...
    I suspect the current war generation might not necessarily that much. But maybe their children will be...

    They said the same thing back when current Nazis were children, care to guess how that worked out?





    Yes, Russia was clearly asleep at the wheel from 1991 to arguably 2022.
    I dont think that mistake will happen again soon.
    Plus the Nazi vermin will either wind up dead, in jail, or scurrying off to the West.
    If they cant be jailed, they'll have to keep their heads down in the demilitarised zone.

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    Post  franco Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:21 pm

    ALAMO wrote:I have not heard a single word Ritter said about that mambo jumbo.
    But I remember him broadcasting from Kiev back in Feb 22.

    His behaviors represented a total lack of common sense. Suicidal.
    There are only two answers to that.
    The guy is either an imbecile or an SBU-connected thug. Nobody with more than two brain cells wouldn't broadcast the stuff he did, sitting in the middle of a country at war.
    As easy as that.

    Or American raised arrogance Wink

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