Russian special military operation in Ukraine #50

Its easy to translate the poisoned pea, elensky.
"Open to negotiation" basically means "the Pukraine is finished".
I'm sure the faggot prick wishes he was back dancing in a dress and playing a piano with his dick. Because the Americans have really had him as their bitch.
Hopefully this with be the death knell of American imperialism.
As Kissinger himself said "to be an enemy of America is dangerous, to be a friend can be deadly".

Firebird wrote:

With fairly little work, Russia could split Turdkey into 3.
Islamic Turdkey, "moderate"(but nuisance) Turdkey and Kurdistan.
Smashing the pathetic idea of a Turdkish empire to smithereens.
At the very least they need the axe hanging over their heads and it might teach them to show the Russia-centric Slavic world a bit more respect.
Turkey is about as popular as Japan around the World. They are far too big for their boots, with an absolute uber-snake as president.

Why would you want to do that? Turkey and the whole central Asian region serves a great purpose as cannon fodder to China

Let them go at each other couple of years

Just annex the lands you want to use as buffer space, and let the Chinese and the Muslims sort themselves out

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/mp-media-police-open-investigation-173546850.html

MP, media: Police open investigation against Arestovych

So it begins ladies and gents:

About turkey.. and quite a bit off topic :p

Eventually the lands where now the descendants of the ottomans are should be divided in several provinces and instabul renamed back into Costantinopoli - Nova Roma.

The neo ottomans could go to Germany, Belgium or nederlands (or back to central Asia) and some Italians and Greeks from around the world could reimmigrate in the Anatolian peninsula.

Of course the official languages should be changed into Latin, modern Greek and Italian
Turkish could be kept as a minority language, like Armenian, Kurdish and Laz.


And maybe in the future make a federation with also Italy and Greece...

Then the name of this federation could be just changed to a 4 letter world that starts with R

Palestine could be given as a  protectorate where Christians, Muslims and Jews are free to live in peace without risks to their lives


Back on topic. At this point they should do a sort of Ukrainian celebrity Deathmatch with kolomoisky,  akhmetov, arestovich, zaluzhny, zelenski,.. etc..

By the way, can Arestovich speak Ukrainian?
I have always seen videos of him speaking Russian.

Posted few weeks ago. Interesting model. Looks very cheap. In the same time lancet can now go up to 70km away like when it did to destroy a mig-29.

Wow that can carry a 5kg warhead. Imagine if they put a thermobaric warhead on it. That would be quite a massisve explosion.

Turks can be used as useful idiots. Just waiting time wise until Ukraine becomes russia they support Ukraine because of Tatar population and had drone projects with them until their engine facilities in Ukraine got bombed. As much russia does not want Armenia to be NATO next i suppose maybe the Azeris can be used to target NATO troops making it seem it was not in russias hands targetting NATO and eventually they can sweep and take Armenia from Azerbaijan. Syrians are strong themselves with Iran, turkey doesn't seem to get along with Israel lately to ally with them. But no idea what excuse russia would pull to make Kazakhstan avoid joining NATO without making it look like they caused the interference of preventing them

sepheronx wrote:I actually agree with Arkh regarding the multipolar world thing. Recently read Algeria is looking to diversify away from Russian weapons for China.  Thing is, UAE, Iraq and Syria all tested various Chinese weapon systems and found them sub par in performance. Russian weapons are actually battle tested and verified works.

Russians are getting killed, so that China can profit.  China does nothing and is doing nothing.  Russia is far better off going alone and making its own world instead.  All these deals they have with China, they can keep till they finish in Ukraine and build themselves up. Afterwards, it's best to stick it to China and India and explain how Russia was being used and abused by these countries.

Edit: to clarify sticking it to China and India; I am speaking of increasing prices on oil and gas deals and demand better trade deals on Russian benefit.

Algeria does not want sanctions placed on it by America, because the EU countries will also follow suit and sanction Algeria, France is looking for any excuse to sanction it's former colony


and as for the Japanese they believe they were the victims of WW2, that's what happens when the west treated the Japanese with kids gloves compared to Germany, the Japanese should have received the same treatment, the war crimes they committed were as bad as the nazis, ie killing the entire population of the city of Nanking nearly 1 million people

Real multi-polar means exactly the sort of freedom that Algeria is engaging. If they want Chinese weapons, that is perfectly fine. They
are not Russia's colony. No US colony has such freedom.

thegopnik wrote:But no idea what excuse russia would pull to make Kazakhstan avoid joining NATO without making it look like they caused the interference of preventing them

Tokaev is now playing the same "multi-vector" game Lukashenko was playing. As long as the Caspian is controlled by RF & Iran, NATO/EU has no chance getting its foot in the door of Kazakhstan.
Eventually its northern russian speaking regions, incl. Baikonur cosmodrome, will be taken by Russia, leaving it landlocked & fragmented, possibly with other areas absorbed by neighbors. Its area is mostly steppe with few rivers & tall mountains only in the extreme South- easier to take than even E. Ukraine.
The Turkic world is very big & diverse, so Ankara has no chance & will lose to China, Russia & Iran if she ever tries to create a pan-turkish union in Eurasia.

The effects of this are likely to cause all kinds of side effects.

Strike by Polish Truckers – Catastrophe for Ukraine's Logistics

The protest action by Polish long-haul truckers is leading Ukrainian carriers to experience increased logistics costs, elevated prices for goods, and the disruption of numerous contracts.

"This is a catastrophe. If the strike lasts for several more weeks, the year can be considered closed for us, as the traditional Christmas lull in Europe begins in mid-December," stated Vladimir Balin, the head of the Association of International Carriers in Ukraine.

Polish truckers blocked three border crossing points between Poland and Ukraine on November 6, demanding the reinstatement of restrictions for Ukrainian carriers that were in place before the start of the State Border Guard Service's Operation. In response, Ukrainian long-haul drivers began seeking alternative routes, such as through Romania, doubling the distance covered.

All negotiations between Polish and Ukrainian authorities have yet to yield any resolution, and the protesting truckers refuse to lift the blockade at the border.

Source: anna_news

kvs wrote:Real multi-polar means exactly the sort of freedom that Algeria is engaging.  If they want Chinese weapons, that is perfectly fine.   They
are not Russia's colony.   No US colony has such freedom.

And hence why I'm not entirely for it as Russia is gradually losing customers on its weapons systems and soon will play behind China and France. China is strong arming itself in Russian historical sphere with shoddy goods and you know full well this is true.

Only option now is Russia attempting to open production of let's say Su-30's in Algeria by opening some kind of assembly plant and some parts production. And then same with armor and small arms. Otherwise, China will take over that sector and Russia will loose billions and thus unable to really develop in the military sector.

I'm surprised really a lot here dont quite put two and two together and realize that this is what China is doing. They themselves are not much interested in a strong Russia and trying to get it out of various traditional sectors and make Russia an energy and resource hub and that's it. The trust so many people here have in China is astounding. It's like blindly following India too, which is equally as bad.

Tsavo Lion wrote:
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-black-sea-fleet-logistical-problems-sevastopol-novorossiysk-kalibr-1844028

Newsweak?



I'd believe a reading of tea-leaves before anything printed in that neocon-controlled shit-rag.

sepheronx wrote:

kvs wrote:Real multi-polar means exactly the sort of freedom that Algeria is engaging.  If they want Chinese weapons, that is perfectly fine.   They
are not Russia's colony.   No US colony has such freedom.

And hence why I'm not entirely for it as Russia is gradually losing customers on its weapons systems and soon will play behind China and France. China is strong arming itself in Russian historical sphere with shoddy goods and you know full well this is true.

Only option now is Russia attempting to open production of let's say Su-30's in Algeria by opening some kind of assembly plant and some parts production.  And then same with armor and small arms.  Otherwise, China will take over that sector and Russia will loose billions and thus unable to really develop in the military sector.

I'm surprised really a lot here dont quite put two and two together and realize that this is what China is doing. They themselves are not much interested in a strong Russia and trying to get it out of various traditional sectors and make Russia an energy and resource hub and that's it.  The trust so many people here have in China is astounding.  It's like blindly following India too, which is equally as bad.

it's all about USA sanctions on imposed on countries buying Russian defence products via CAATSA - Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act

America ignores UN sanctions and believes every country should abide by the sanctions they impose on other countries

Arkanghelsk wrote:Half of Russians Want Putin to End War in Ukraine, Poll Shows

Survey found 48% back peace talks, highest since war began

Russian Field poll showed 39% want to continue invasion

Poll performed by who? How many took part? Which areas of Russia was it conducted in?

Meh. Writing this shit off as Western or Russian 5th-column info-war buttfuckery.

I have no doubt that most Russians know full well who the enemy is, and why he must be obliterated. Ignore the stupid white noise.

ALAMO wrote:Japan is a fascinating case study.
A country that is proud and thankful that they get two nukes ...

Agreed. A once proud warrior nation reduced to the point where most japanese men are effeminate cucks that masturbate daily to anime.

To hell with the Japs. An aging post-industrial nation that lacks energy and resources, whose debt is 264% of their GDP, and who lacks the willpower to enforce their national soverignty over Monkey Empire bases in Okinawa. They will sail their shiny new ships around in circles and puff up their chests in a mock display of strength, then retire to their cabins and put on a school girl dress to jerk off with tranny porn. No threat here.

This is the leader of the BRICS and Russia's #1 "ally"...  

So one shirt will change everything ?
Nice...

Agreed. That idiot Xi always has a slithery, pathetic grin when in front of people he thinks are his betters. Any other leader that are his supposed peers or beneath him he puts on the confucian stoic face.

Pay attention. When with European or American leaders he has this goofy smile.

TMA1 wrote:Agreed. That idiot Xi always has a slithery, pathetic grin when in front of people he thinks are his betters. Any other leader that are his supposed peers or beneath him he puts on the confucian stoic face.

Pay attention. When with European or American leaders he has this goofy smile. Pathetic.

That's Gavin Newson? who will be taking over from Biden when the time comes. Also he has been on a trip to China, so they know each other.

TMA1 wrote:Agreed. That idiot Xi always has a slithery, pathetic grin when in front of people he thinks are his betters. Any other leader that are his supposed peers or beneath him he puts on the confucian stoic face.

Pay attention. When with European or American leaders he has this goofy smile. Pathetic.

That's so true.

Xi is on a cuck tour. He shows up to the US in a Boeing aircraft. Putin would never do something like that.

Some of the Chinese elite so badly want to be accepted by the US. Yet they kept all of the communist symbolism and thought this would work I guess. Its very strange.

Anyway, FPV drones count for a lot of casualties in this war.

Wouldn't it be possible to invent a backpack sized S-400 ? Just something you could drag out of the trench or put on your back, get set up and then watch the air space around troops heads ?

Something is needed. It would be a big step forward for Russia to invent something to really counteract FPV drones.

Backman wrote:Xi is on a cuck tour. He shows up to the US in a Boeing aircraft. Putin would never do something like that.

he uses a B-747 for all his long distance travel. Conditions under which China can surrender Putin / Negotiations between Biden and Xi: https://youtu.be/LKu-p2oSho8

These traitors should be used to clear minefields with anti-personnel mines.