Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51

The better option would be to send the troops into through belarus, this would force Ukraine to deploy everything it can to protect the vital flank as they have lots of supplies coming in through their.

Unless the russians are worried they cannot properly supply or support the 2nd front from that direction.

Regardless if true this is something they should have done day 1, the fact it took them so long to reach the conclusion this was necessary is sad

They have made many stupid choices in this war and that's not up for debate, boot lick all you wanr

SeigSoloyvov wrote:They have made many stupid choices in this war and that's not up for debate, boot lick all you wanr

Find me a war, any war with any general, where stupid choices haven't been made. The only big mistakes I can think of made by Russa was parading near Kharkov and Kiev in the early days of the war and not knocking down bridges over the Dniepr and withdrawing from northeast Ukraine. Other than that, they have fought the war on their terms and are making Ukraine fight the war they want to fight. 27,000 dead (with 75,000 more wounded is sad, but Ukraine has conservatively lost 400 thousand dead and 1.2 million wounded. The mystique of NATO weaponry is gone. The myth of the superiority of NATO standard is gone. Russia has a land bridge to Crimea, has greatly reduced the shelling anr killing of civilians in Donbass, and while Ukraine wants a military industry, theirs is reduced to rubble. The great offensive? They actually now have less territory than when they began. Their biggest successes are terrorist attacks which do nothing to stop Russia. So yeah, Russia made mistakes. There's a reason Moltke said your plans never survive first contact with the enemy

It is already ongoing, I will focus your attention.
Generated inflation is nothing else rather than sucking the wealth accumulated by the generations of wealthy Europeans.
And the debt spiral is only starting.
Take a look at the debt created money they pumped under cover of post-covid economy restoration.
Here comes the interesting part : Poland was cut off those funds under some fishy causes smelling by a mile.
So the economy recovered and developed perfectly well without it.
There is no physical need for pumping into economy money created by debt emission. And the same scenario would have worked in every other EU member state. Euro average economy slide was 6.6% (!!), so there is no need for E2+ trillion "stimulation package". Especially if we consider that a lot of money was already pumped into it in tons of different programs.
So what is the goal of that?
Well, it is a horrific debt increase spread among all the Europeans, no matter how preventive their own governments has been. Debt emitted without EU nation states supervision and jurisdiction, but presented to them all as some fukin Xmas tree gifts. A friend of mine, who already calculated those money twice in his company budget, as he would benefit with those, answered to me "no, only part of it will be a loan, the other part will be a grant!".
Holly shit!
A loan you must give back, and a grant financed with ECB emitted bonds to be paid with interest later?
To finance something that already recovered all by itself?!?

Putin described this situation at Munich, back in 2007. He described perfectly well how the things will proceed in Europe, and where that all is going. And you know what? He was fukin' right with every single word, as fukin' ALWAYS

The Kiev and north-east "parade" with around 100,000 troops was designed to shock and awe the Kiev regime into a peace deal.
It succeed in this regard until NATzO instructed the Kiev regime to tear it up. I do not think it is a mistake to try to avoid bloody war.
The world knows what went down when BoJo visited Kiev. Attempts to cover it up by claiming there were some other negotiations
that nobody every heard about before which Putin "broke off" are pathetic.

There was no military mistake. No collection of Russian generals would believe that 100,000 troops are enough to take over the whole
of Ukria in a blitzkrieg. Give them some credit, they are not internet fanboi wankers.

kvs wrote:The Kiev and north-east "parade" with around 100,000 troops was designed to shock and awe the Kiev regime into a peace deal.
It succeed in this regard until NATzO instructed the Kiev regime to tear it up.   I do not think it is a mistake to try to avoid bloody war.
The world knows what went down when BoJo visited Kiev.   Attempts to cover it up by claiming there were some other negotiations
that nobody every heard about before which Putin "broke off" are pathetic.
There was no military mistake.   No collection of Russian generals would believe that 100,000 troops are enough to take over the whole
of Ukria in a blitzkrieg.   Give them some credit, they are not internet fanboi wankers.

The worst in this story is a fact, that people with this kind of harsh statements are living in a bubble filled with own farts, unable to smell the roses.
First, you have a moron from the Pentagon claiming that Kiev will fall in 3 days.
One applies that moronic statement to the Russkie as a second step.
And call them ignorant because they have not succeeded in something that was never their goal.
It is fukin amazing, how short memory and lack of linking the dots some people can represent.

We have a nafo propagandists like Rob Lee that already admitted that all of the farts they made in early 2022 were a piece of shit based on crappy knowledge.
This house of cards is falling apart in front of us, yet there are still people who are trying to feed the people with coolaid and being shocked it isn't working anymore.
By April 2022 the original Ukrainian army was destroyed.
The one they have been building for 8 years. The one that was supplied by the whole collective west, fed with Wunderwaffles. With planes full of Javelins delivered daily basis, Bayraktars became a symbol.
Supplied by their own military&industrial complex that delivered high end production made in their own production hubs.
GPS guided 100+km range MLRS. 300 km ranged cruise missiles. Modern tanks. Serially upgraded Buk systems. Top notch antitank weapon, including a killer Stugna. And not much worse Korsar.
A fukin' 400+k strong army, national guard and other military, battle hardned, trained, equipped, motivated and nazi lead/oriented.
They have been smashed. Simply crushed, as a pig challenging RAM truck.
Oh yeah, sure. We had some vids for nafo incels to wank each other, showing some Russkie VDV BMDs burning, and corpses lined. We had a few ambushes, with the Russian armor columns being hit by both light AT weapon and artillery.
What did that changed?
By April 2022, this army was non existing, Zelensky was hiding in Poland, EU was shitting their pants, and a peace treaty was almost signed in Istambul.
I will repeat that again. All the blood is on the Anglosaxon hands, and I have no idea what arguments they have used to push the Ukro leading class to commit this mass suicide. Other than personal interests. All the bloody money they can steal.

They are doing the same for decades. What's new?

Late Roman Empire vibes, but back then the Germanics were the superior warrior stock compared to the indolent Romans so the empire was actually getting a pretty good deal for a time. Not comparable in any way to the third world detritus that will flood the ranks of the neo US army and will only drag down the institution further into the ground.

Russian su-24 shot down around snake island probably be patriot. There was a su-30SM with it but wasn't touched.

IMO it could be some f-35 + amraam operating from Bulgaria or Romania.