Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51

franco wrote:Now this is heavy duty trolling

Russian army trolls AFU with laser show on Ukraine's "Army Day" (Dec 6)

https://twitter.com/simpatico771/status/1732953846580674588

WARNING: contains sexual matters

In the UK, there was a 200% increase in searches for “Ukrainian escorts” compared with six months before the outbreak of war, while in Spain there was a 600% increase in searches for the term “Ukrainian porn”, and in Poland a 130% rise.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/26/ukrainian-refugees-increasingly-targeted-for-sexual-exploitation-research-finds


The light show , was true and should next time show EU flag above male figure , exploiting " Oxana ! "

You are falling too much for their bull-shit victimhood stories.


According to an article from 2008 there were at least 1 500 Poles missing in Italy, vast majority of them disappeared working as slaves at agricultural estates in southern Italy, mostly Apulia.

Guess who were the guards at these estates? Besides the local Italians, they were Ukrainians from Ukraine and Poland.


And yes, women were also raped, Polish women.



And now Guardian is publishing this little silly story about some Internet searches.


You are being manipulated.

So Germany sending enough 155mm shells to last Ukraine half a day nice

In regards to drone production. That will be 200 Geraniums-2 per month, not just drones as a collective. They will be producing other types of drones in greater numbers, as well as Geranium-1 for the smaller stuff. The thing is Ukraine still hadn't got an effective system for taking down geraniums apart from shooting randomly into the air, which is a good way for Russia to deplete their small arms ammo.

Russian army trolls AFU

Apart from trolling: Reports of a cruise missile attack by the VKS.

Natural death

Being killed by shrapnel or a bullet is regarded a natural death in Banderaland.

Yes, that mortar base plate was firmly in the ground and left there for next time. It didn't look to me like a divot he covered it with, far too light, it was a bundle of grass to camouflage it.

The irony is that anyone walking through there that stands on that grass and feels that metal through the grass is going to absolutely sht themselves thinking it is a mine...

Article 5 is basically a political/PR clause, not military, put there to give the leaders of all the small countries a warm glow to sell their populations that the big countries would protect them from the big bad wolf if push came to shove. But it was carefully drafted to cover a response from the level of a stiff letter/angry Ambassador visit to full blown military support whilst excluding anything self inflicted like a provocation/attack themselves.

Exactly... if Ukraine was part of HATO their current support actions is probably about the extent they would be prepared to go considering how effective the Russians have been so far I doubt any conventional forces would be rushing in there to fill the black plastic bags. Even their special forces seem to be mostly hands off...

Pushing them forward from a distance...

Article 5 doesn't protect a country if it goes in first sure but.

Let's say one of the baltics goes in, Russia reacts and invades all three.

Article 5 would be triggered as 2\3 of them where attacked first when only one of them in this case would be the aggressor and only the aggressor losses article 5 protection

The problem there goldilocks, is that the west has the best trained media in the world and if the US and UK and Germany and UK and France don't want to go for a swim today then they will dip their toes in and proclaim it is too cold to swim today... maybe tomorrow.

Not sure why Russia would invade anyone it didn't deem a threat and did something stupid, but they could easily claim something to defend their actions.

The sense of humor is very weak in both of you.

K?

LMUR

You could see human legs and stands for optics or perhaps ATGMs on that top floor... nice kill.

Possibly falsely, so that families get cheated out of better compensation:

They got into power claiming to want to fight corruption, but corruption clearly won... what else can be expected?

And now Guardian is publishing this little silly story about some Internet searches.

They ignore the sex trade in human sex slaves unless they can use it to further their agenda... the irony is that Ukrainians are the victims in this story but the Russians aren't the bad guys this time around...

nomadski wrote:
In the UK, there was a 200% increase in searches for “Ukrainian escorts” compared with six months before the outbreak of war, while in Spain there was a 600% increase in searches for the term “Ukrainian porn”, and in Poland a 130% rise.

Low hike in Poland, because we were already used to Ukrainian escorts

But jokes aside, this is one more example of how the situation turned 180 deg, in such a short time. Nobody would consider this kind of article, in the Western shitstream, half a year ago only.

GarryB wrote:
They got into power claiming to want to fight corruption, but corruption clearly won... what else can be expected?

Let's consider that from a better perspective: they gained a second position in the fight against corruption.

Couple of interesting comments in this

Russian forces entered Rabotino from the southern direction, breaking Ukro defensive positions south of the village yesterday. Seems like Ukrs are withdrawing all they can to the north.

Victor vicktop55
@vicktop55
An interesting observation from Ukrainian government procurement.

Ukrainian government agencies have begun massive purchases of shredders and other equipment for destroying documents. Among them are Sumy officials, the Kharkov City Council and the High Qualification Commission of Judges of Ukraine.
Usually documents are destroyed en masse if they are sure that the enemy will soon enter the territory.

https://t.me/vicktop55/19062

This is the future

Size matters

I highly doubt if that Murican sees and understands what the irony is

Here is one of multiple interviews with retired gen.  Leon Komornicki to give you some sane perspective.
General ended up his career as a deputy chief of general staff of the Polish Army in 1998. He represents an old school of military commanders and served as a division commander and Warsaw Military District commander. What's more, he was a graduate of the General Staff Academy in Moscow, year 1984.

It is in Polish, but with subtitles, you can translate to English.



What is more important, this opinion general provides for a very long time, which makes him quite a reputable interlocutor.

Edit : and the main screen title says : does Ukraine fight for other's business?

WTF was this?

If that is a Russian position, it would be ammunition storage detonation. Ukrs does not have anything of that power.
If it is Ukro position, it can be a lot of things. Starting with Iskander, or 1500kg FAB, or Ch-29 ...

Edit :
... 600 thousand killed later ...

JohninMK wrote:WTF was this?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1733179486336606674

looks like a rocket launch. What weapon we refueled with liquid fuel at the front?
is there a VLS vertical there?

These guys from Ukraine are ridiculous. They can't even lie convincingly. This is Goebbels grade shit.

We are supposed to believe Russia lost 324 aircraft. That would mean they lost most of their air force's fighter and attack aircraft. Which is clear bullshit. 324 helicopters. More bullshit. 338120 Russian casualties. More bullshit.

Take any number of theirs and divide it by like eight and you might get a reasonably accurate number.

JohninMK wrote:Size matters

Sure does. More expensive. Harder to transport and maintain. Sucks more fuel. Gets stuck in mud more often. Easier to see. Easier to hit. Burns just as well...

lancelot wrote:

These guys from Ukraine are ridiculous. They can't even lie convincingly. This is Goebbels grade shit.

We are supposed to believe Russia lost 324 aircraft. That would mean they lost most of their air force's fighter and attack aircraft. Which is clear bullshit. 324 helicopters. More bullshit. 338120 Russian casualties. More bullshit.

Take any number of theirs and divide it by like eight and you might get a reasonably accurate number.

Pull off a spot everywhere and it can get there.

Take any number of theirs and divide it by like eight

15 is a better guess.

Will the Russians stop there...

If you were nice and good this year.

JohninMK wrote:WTF was this?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1733179486336606674

Smoking in Solntsepyok.

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:

JohninMK wrote:WTF was this?

looks like a rocket launch. What weapon we refueled with liquid fuel at the front?
is there a VLS vertical there?

If you step it through at 6 seconds this is the sequence

- a white spot appears on the ground
- the fireball ignites perhaps 100m high
- the fireball moves to ground level
- the fireball increases dramatically in size and turns from yellow to white
- the white fireball shrinks to have a yellow corona
- the fireball is centered perhaps 20 meters into the field from the white spot
- there now could be a dark impact crater and a possible secondary explosion, with a blast 'dome' created
- dense black smoke covers the remaining fireball that comes out of the crater
- smoke turns grey and there are local smoking secondary fires.

Any more ideas?

Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of the special military operation (as of December 9, 2023)

- The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation launched a group strike with high-precision long-range air-launched weapons on the production sites of ammunition for the Vilkha and Grad multiple launch rocket systems and the Grom operational-tactical missiles. The targets of the strikes have been achieved. All designated targets are hit.

- In the Kupyansk direction, coordinated actions of units of the “Western” group of forces, army aviation strikes and artillery fire defeated accumulations of manpower and equipment of the 43rd mechanized brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the 113th territorial defense brigade in the areas of the settlements of Kurilovka and Petropavlovka, Kharkov region.

Enemy losses amounted to up to 105 military personnel, three vehicles and a Gvozdika self-propelled artillery mount.

- In the Krasnolimansky direction, units of the Center group of troops repelled an attack by the assault group of the 1st brigade of the National Guard of Ukraine in the Serebryansky forestry area.

In addition, the personnel of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were defeated in the area of the village of Grigorovka, Donetsk People's Republic.

Enemy losses in this direction amounted to up to 155 military personnel, two armored combat vehicles and three cars.

- In the Donetsk direction, units of the “Southern” group of forces, in cooperation with aviation and artillery, repelled five enemy attacks in the areas of the settlements of Belogorovka, Krasnoe and Shumy of the Donetsk People’s Republic, and also defeated the personnel of the 22nd, 93rd mechanized and 79th th air assault brigades of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the areas of the settlements of Marinka, Kurdyumovka, Andreevka and Kleshcheevka of the Donetsk People's Republic.

The total enemy losses amounted to up to 200 military personnel: two infantry fighting vehicles, two cars, an Msta-B howitzer, and a D-30 gun were killed and wounded.

- In the South Donetsk direction, units of the Vostok group of troops, in cooperation with army aviation and artillery, repelled an attack by an assault group of the 58th motorized infantry brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the area of the settlement of Novodonetskoye, Donetsk People's Republic.

The losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces amounted to up to 80 military personnel killed and wounded and two vehicles.

- In the Zaporozhye direction, units of the Russian group of troops, air strikes and artillery fire defeated the manpower and equipment of the 33rd, 117th and 118th mechanized, 128th mountain assault brigades of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the areas of the settlements of Stepnogorsk, Pyatikhatki, Verbovoe and Rabotino, Zaporozhye region.

Enemy losses amounted to up to 35 military personnel, two vehicles, a D-30 howitzer, and a Gvozdika self-propelled artillery mount.

- In the Kherson direction, as a result of the actions of units of Russian troops, artillery fire and air strikes, enemy losses amounted to up to 50 military personnel and three vehicles.

Operational-tactical and army aviation, unmanned aerial vehicles, missile forces and artillery of groupings of troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation destroyed the ammunition depot of the 120th territorial defense brigade near the city of Volchansk, Kharkov region, damaged the military infrastructure at the Kulbakino airfield, Nikolaev region, as well as manpower and military equipment of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in 118 districts.

Air defense systems destroyed 11 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles in the areas of the settlements of Topolevka, Shipilovka in the Lugansk People's Republic, Opytnoye in the Donetsk People's Republic, Skelevatoye and Vasylivka in the Zaporozhye region.

In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, the following have been destroyed: 550 aircraft, 257 helicopters, 9,588 unmanned aerial vehicles, 442 anti-aircraft missile systems, 13,924 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1,188 combat vehicles of multiple launch rocket systems, 7,284 field artillery guns and mortars, as well as 16,096 units of special military vehicles.
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Seems like a fully loaded Tos-1 got hit by a drone maybe in that video above.