Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51

PapaDragon wrote:
Odessa too

That would provide a land corridor to the Pridniestrovie.

But that would also create a front-line without significant natural obstacles, and with the Russians having a back towards the sea.


http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/264/georgian-losses-reports

http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/302/ukraine-participated-invasion-south-ossetia



I am surprised that a Serb like you did not used the historical name of the New Serbia.

well how fast is the land grab pace Russia is currently doing this month compared to the last offensives? It surely feels like its going faster now after constant past talks of new MLRS, drones, shells and missile production.

Wow that ship was 36 years old. !! Quite impressive the condition they kept it.

I have a feeling they might change their minds in the last minute when training Ukrainians to fly f-16s depending how far russia might advance in the coming months

Edit: I an genuinely more concerned if the russians will decide to take action or not if the Ukrainians will use the Baltic countries to refuel and equip their f-16s with weapons. I have a feeling they will not  keep the f-16s in Ukraine  because by the time they are done training those aircrafts will eventually be in reach from short range drones which russians will have plenty.

Powerful explosions reported in Odessa

"Geranis" flew there

Explosions at Starokonstantinov airfield!

36 isn't that old for a naval ship. It should be able to be fixed.

The only way to stop these cruise missile attacks and secure Sovestopol from them is regime change in Kiev and removal of the US embassy. What would you rather have ? These missile attacks on Sevastopol or the odd terror shooting or something in Kiev ? I think this whole idea that a Russia controlled Kiev will result in some kind of super insurgency is bullshit.

I'll believe the russians are going to introduce new army groups and for an an encirclement when they do it

thegopnik wrote:I have a feeling they might change their minds in the last minute when training Ukrainians to fly f-16s depending how far russia might advance in the coming months

Edit: I an genuinely more concerned if the russians will decide to take action or not if the Ukrainians will use the Baltic countries to refuel and equip their f-16s with weapons. I have a feeling they will not  keep the f-16s in Ukraine  because by the time they are done training those aircrafts will eventually be in reach from short range drones which russians will have plenty.

The F16s are garbage.

Russia has created a new kamikaze drone "Supercam" with a high degree of protection against electronic warfare systems, and it is now being tested, Rostec head Chemezov told RIA Novosti.

He also said that the newest Russian howitzer "Coalition" should soon appear in the Special Military Operation zone to provide a significant advantage over NATO howitzers in range.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/81459?single

JohninMK wrote:Interesting cargo on the ship to make that bang. Yes, its another of John's big bangs.




A near before and after. I doubt that they will get that out in one piece.

Whatever it was expand the image and take a close look its not a good match for the landing ship. Maybe it was too damaged to be a good match but I doubt you can conclude much from the comparison. How did the antenna turn white?

Lots of pro-ukr gloating in X/Twitter right now.

The difference is that there are replacements in terms of fuel and ammo and even ships for anything that might have been lost... cannot say the same for the long list of things Russia has destroyed over the same period.

BS
Alexander the Great could turn up as new "President" of Banderaland and would still loose.

True, but Zelensky is making it easier for Russia to win.

The first 6 ukrainian pilots completed basic training in UK

So they have completed basic training for experienced MiG-29 fighter pilots... it seems these MiG-29 pilots were DCS trained teenagers perhaps so needed complete from scratch training about aircraft from child level up to fly F-16s.

Also they clearly believe 6 F-16s will be enough to overwhelm the Russian military and defeat Putin... interesting.

And several months before they can actually fly f-16s... sounds like they have already delivered the F-16s and want to launch a surprise attack with them... perhaps for New Year.

History lesson, the allies could have taken out Hitlar earlier in the war but they saw how his decisions were making it easier for them to win, so rather than risk getting someone in power who actually knew what the **** they were doing.

Ahh come on... that is their excuse when they try and they fail... the west was keen to knock of Hitler... it is a method the west still uses today... they got Chavez and are trying to get Maduro, and of course Saddam and Gaddafi... they tried for decades to get Castro.

So he is correct in what he is saying which is for Russia to get everything it needs and make their job easier, Zelen staying in power is the best thing possible

I agree with this, but the west always prefers to murder people... they would have murdered Putin on multiple occasions if they got the chance. Still would.

NATO best wunderwaffe stealth missile and they can't get more than 1 in 10 thru...

And they get one through because they aim them all at unimportant targets.

You would think a super stealth super accurate cruise missile would be headed for the naval command building in the crimea that controls the navy in that region, but they don't even bother trying to hit that because they know all their missiles would be shot down and they would get nothing... so they pick a tanker tied up in port, or an old ship in dry dock and launch as many missiles as they can from the few aircraft they have left and occasionally a missile or two makes it through... at the cost of three or four aircraft...

Ukrainians are claiming it wasn't an ammo dump but the Ropucha class Novocherkask.

A 50 year old landing ship would not be something Russia would be too upset about losing. Even a tanker would not be the end of the world.

I would say if they didn't sink a Ropucha that after the war it will be retired as new Ivan Gren and other replacement ships enter service anyway, and they are making new tankers all the time.

A little more from the new Ukraine mobilization law.

So Russia should prepare itself for a massive increase in the quality of new Ukrainian soldiers...

Russia is protecting its high value targets. Every now and then one Ukrainian missile will slip through, there is nothing Russia can do about that. Performance of Western SAMs in Ukraine has been mediocre.

Yes, getting excited about a single ship being sunk is amusing when daily Russian attacks where most missiles launched hit all their targets and destroy them, and the various air defence missiles and cannon shells sent into the air to stop them do additional damage to the areas around the targets is what this conflict has become.

When Goliath has his hands on Davids throat and is strangling him you don't cheer when david uses his fingernails to break the skin on Goliaths arm that barely bleeds, and certainly does not make him release his grip... in fact it makes him grip tighter...

As Davids supporters promise a sling with a brand new stone that can kill a man at 300km range... it makes no difference because the fight is already lost.

But that would also create a front-line without significant natural obstacles, and with the Russians having a back towards the sea.

A problem easily solved by moving the front line further from the sea.

By that stage taking more territory becomes a viable option.

Now Cecenia Is pretty safe and i do not see why the same can't be true for Malarossia or for Krasnaya Rus.

Even more so with nazi idiots exposing their own crimes on social media since 2014 so the hard core nutters should be quite straight forward to track down and deal with.

The F16s are garbage.

Even if they were F-35s sending 6 would not make much difference.

Backman wrote:36 isn't that old for a naval ship. It should be able to be fixed.

There is only one issue with that.
This entire class was made in Poland. In Gdansk.
The Soviet Union was its major operator, with close to 70 ships delivered.
The problem with those ships is a fact, that bulk of them are of the earliest modification, which was made to carry T-54/55 tanks. So were the dimensions, displacement etc.
By today's standards, it can hardly carry 3 tanks not because of the displacement issue, but the deck size, with the most modern - 4.
It is seriously outdated by any standard, so the point of repairing a 40 y/o burned piece is null. As long as they had them, sure that having a ship beats not having it. But I guess they operate a few pcs of those at most, and all were destined for scrapping anyway.

kvs wrote:Why would Russia need to ship anything to its forces in Ukraine?   That does not make any sense.   It's not Syria.   The theme of cutting off Crimea
with some missile attacks on the Crimean bridge has been a NATzO-Ukr propaganda theme for months.   It seems to have done the job of infesting
people's minds with nonsense.    

Because can carry cargo, which means you can establish a complementary route of supplies without hindering civilian traffic. There is an enormous inflow of goods and materials to Crimea, and further north, for both population supply and restoration. If you can make an old ship useful, then it would be wise to do so.

with close to 70 ships delivered.

You confuse the Ropucha with the Polnochy class.

Russian gains in the Artemovsky direction since the end of October.

Not bad for active defense.