Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51

lancelot wrote:
Wrong. The 737 AEW&C aircraft radar for example has over 600 km range. This is more than the distance from Kherson to the Romanian border. The distance from Iasi to Kherson is 360 km.

It has a 600 km range and can find a high flying big objects with no electronic countermeasures.
Or a bridge.
Take a Flightradar data and check where all that planes fly.
It should clear the picture.
They can't use them for providing support against frontal aviation that flies at 25m, or Su-34/35 hanging 70 km from the frontline.

Some reports from the Ukro side after Vitaly Bal : an entire group of 108 soldiers rotated from Avdeyevka has been wiped out en route by a precise Russian attack. They were traveling for New Year holidays in buses.

And very good material covering what is reported to be storming of the last - literally - trench of Ukro defence at the outskirts of Marianka.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/107404

What is most telling is the behavior of the remaining Ukro squad. It tells much about psychological condition ...

A visit in Azovstal undergraunds.

Zelensky must remain president of Ukraine, by Gevorg Mirzayan for VZGLYAD. 12.26.2023.

If Zelensky retains power, he will continue to burn out the Ukrainian political space. Feeling his weakness and the precariousness of his position (after all, the enemies will not go anywhere - it is impossible to imprison Zaluzhny and Poroshenko), he will begin to tighten the screws within the Ukrainian elite. Actually, he has already started.

Toad Viper. This is what Russian experts now call the struggle for power that has unfolded among representatives of the Kyiv regime. The main characters are called President Vladimir Zelensky and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzhny. Sometimes in this context they also remember the country’s former president Petro Poroshenko, who in recent weeks has begun to remind himself too often.

Just six months or a year ago this would have been difficult to imagine. All Western propaganda was aimed at praising and even glorifying the Ukrainian actor playing the role of the country's president. It was through his image that the whole of Ukraine was presented - “a heroic small country fighting against big and evil Russia.” Zelensky himself was received according to the highest program - in Congress he was applauded, hugged, and almost allowed his children to be baptized.

However, the surrounding reality and, above all, the actions of Moscow have made adjustments to this image. A series of defeats by Ukrainian troops, the realization of the impossibility of defeating Russia on the battlefield and in the economic space, the theft of Western funds in Kyiv and the fatigue of Western societies with Ukraine as such - all this led to the fact that Zelensky’s image began to fade. And this (coupled with a sharp reduction in the food supply in Kyiv, associated with the trend towards a decrease in the volume of Western financial assistance) led to the outbreak of a struggle for power.

A struggle in which Russia should, of course, root for Zelensky. For him to remain the prince of the Kyiv hill.

To some, this position will probably seem blasphemous. Someone will probably remember all the war crimes that Zelensky committed. It will remind you that it was precisely the boorish behavior of the head of the Kiev regime (who did not comply with the Minsk agreements and mocked Moscow’s demands to comply with what Kiev signed) that led to the fact that Russia was forced to launch a military defense system. Others will generally insist that Zelensky be brought to justice for his crimes against humanity (and there is no other way to describe his actions) here and now. Not human, of course (the Donetsk Tribunal is still far away), but divine. Where the Russian special services or the Russian army, using the same Iskander, should send it as soon as possible.

However, the problem is that if Vladimir Zelensky now leaves the post of President of Ukraine (feet-first or not, it doesn’t matter), then it will be more difficult for Russia to complete the current SVO with a victory. If, of course, by victory we mean a real victory - not only the liberation of all current Russian territories occupied by Kiev, but also future ones. Including at least Odessa, Nikolaev and Kharkov. And also the maximum possible dismantling of the Ukrainian state.

And in this context, President Zelensky is beneficial to Russia for three reasons.

First, he categorically refuses any peace negotiations. Even negotiations for the sake of negotiations. And this position is beneficial for Moscow. The fact is that at this particular moment the negotiation configuration necessary for the Russian Federation has not yet been created. The territories have not been completely liberated, security has not been ensured, and access to Transnistria has not been achieved. All this can be achieved either by military means or through the surrender of the Kyiv regime. Negotiations, at best, will complicate the conduct of hostilities, and at worst, will lead to the need to freeze them. At the same time, they will not lead to any positive result significant for Moscow.

On the other hand, Russia also cannot refuse negotiations - then it will lose the image of a country that is always ready to resolve the crisis diplomatically. And this is where Zelensky’s uncompromising position gives Moscow an excellent reason not to start negotiations. Send all those who call for them to Kyiv, convince the inadequate leadership there. And if the leadership changes to an adequate one (for example, to the same Zaluzhny), then Moscow will lose the opportunity to hide behind the Kyiv position.

Secondly, Zelensky is a serious irritant for the West. The Ukrainian actor has believed in himself so much over the past year that he seriously considers himself the center of the entire unfolding drama. Doesn't listen to the director or producer. Even after he proved his inconsistency in action (see failed counter-offensive). His constant rudeness, aggressive begging, positioning himself as a person to whom the West owes money - all this causes retaliatory aggression from Western leaders. Yes, not everyone can say what they think about Zelensky - however, they can sabotage assistance programs for Ukraine and/or reduce their participation in Ukrainian affairs for any convenient reason. That is, start getting rid of the toxic asset.

That is why a number of Eastern European countries are now freely taking anti-Ukrainian actions, and the American Congress has made the allocation of money to the Kyiv regime dependent on Biden’s concessions on the migration issue. If a rebranding of power occurs in Kyiv, then perhaps the new leadership will behave according to the rules established by the West, which will cause a revival of interest in the Ukrainian project.

Finally, thirdly, if Zelensky retains power, he will continue to burn out the Ukrainian political space. Feeling their weakness and the precariousness of their position (after all, the enemies will not go away - it is impossible to imprison Zaluzhny and Poroshenko), Zelensky and the head of his administration Andriy Ermak will begin to tighten the screws within the Ukrainian elite. Actually, we have already started. And this behavior, coupled with the current and future military defeats of the Kyiv regime, will remind the regional elites of a truth as old as light: to betray in time is not to betray, but to foresee.

Here, of course, many will answer that Russia does not need repainted Ukrainian officials at all. However, you need to understand that every city surrendered without a fight, every village thus liberated saves the lives of both Russian soldiers and local residents. Future citizens of the Russian Federation.

Therefore, let Zelensky sit longer - until our victory - in the presidential chair, and then the Donetsk Tribunal will find him a worthy place.

https://vz.ru/opinions/2023/12/26/1244244.html

Lots of pro-ukr gloating in X/Twitter right now.

then it will be more difficult for Russia to complete the current SVO with a victory.

BS
Alexander the Great could turn up as new "President" of Banderaland and would still loose.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ukrainian-pilots-learn-to-fly-f-16-fighter-jets-after-completing-basic-training-in-the-uk

The first 6 ukrainian pilots completed basic training in UK and now they will do F-16 training in Danemark.

Until now they did not do any f16 training, only aviation terminology in English and possibly some flight training on unspecified trainer aircrafts.

A further group of ten Ukrainian pilots will remain in UK for practical basic flight training, as well as to learn "important" skills such as aviation medicine and centrifuge training.

Basically they have not done yet conversion training from MiG-29 to F-16. They will have to do all of it in Danemark.

It is not specified how long it will take before the first 6 pilots will be combat ready on F-16, but it will take several months.

If in the meanwhile they want to fly F16 it can be done only by foreign (i.e. polish) pilots

The first cohort of Ukrainian pilots  to receive training from the Royal Air Force are now learning to fly F-16 fighter jets in Denmark, having completed a basic programme of training in the UK.

The RAF began delivering flying and English language training in August as part of the UK contribution to the international Air Force Capability Coalition for Ukraine, which sees allies and partners working together to bolster Ukraine’s air capabilities.

The group was formed of six experienced Ukrainian combat fighter pilots who received aviation-specific English language training to increase their ability to engage with coalition training and support.

A further ten Ukrainian trainee pilots took part in the language training and remain in the UK to continue with practical basic flight training, as well as to learn important skills such as aviation medicine and centrifuge training.

Another Russian warship sunk by Ukraine. Another reminder how antiquated Russian early warning and detection system is

RTN wrote:Another Russian warship sunk by Ukraine. Another reminder how antiquated Russian early warning and detection system is

https://x.com/igorsushko/status/1739481214871110112?s=20

Good morning ReTarded Nitwit, lets talk about your glorious achievement.  What changes? What significance of any sort does a tanker blowing up have? What impact on the  war does it have?  At best it distracrs from an allegedly impregnable fortress being taken.  Its completely pointless and insignificant, much like the brain droppings you litter this site with.

Will be funny when Russia starts providing the 800km range oniks to the Houtis and Iranians.

Europeans managed to get ride of cheap russian ressources, rise comptitiveness of India and China, close a market of 120 million russian buyers, increase their own prices, "close" the red sea for their ships and increase the transport fees in order to get 2 russian ships that will be replaced by ships built in future russian shipyards in Ukraine when they will take the entire country.

So stupid it's surprising they haven't yet died because they forgot to breath.

RTN wrote:Another Russian warship sunk by Ukraine. Another reminder how antiquated Russian early warning and detection system is

Get knotted, troll moron.

Antiquated Russian early warning and detection system...



NATO best wunderwaffe stealth missile and they can't get more than 1 in 10 thru...

Ukrobot retard.

zorobabel wrote:Ukrainians are claiming it wasn't an ammo dump but the Ropucha class Novocherkask. Hopefully that is a false claim as that would be a major loss.

Who cares what the ukro apes are saying?

Russia is grinding the Ukrowehrmacht into dogmeat. That is all that matters. Let the inbred khokhol retards masturbate themselves senseless over their silly fakery.

The liberation of Marinka opens up new paths for the Russian army, by Evgeny Krutikov for VZGLYAD. 12.26.2023.

A long-awaited event took place in the special operation zone: the settlement of Marinka, located directly next to Donetsk, was liberated. Marinka is not only a significant fortified area of ​​the Ukrainian Armed Forces, but also a point, after the capture of which Russian troops have new prospects.

Russian troops have taken full control of the town of Marinka, southwest of Donetsk, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu told President Vladimir Putin. According to Shoigu, the capture of the city will reduce the capabilities of the Ukrainian armed forces and will allow the Russian military to more effectively defend Donetsk. “What is important is that we have quite significantly moved the artillery work away from Donetsk further to the west,” he said.

From the center of Donetsk to Marinka it is approximately 20 km. The town, in which about 10 thousand people lived until 2014, then remained with Ukraine, and several attempts to liberate it by Donetsk militia forces in 2015-2016 failed. All these nine years, the Armed Forces of Ukraine strengthened it by all available means and strengthened it to a complete fortress, in which literally every basement was turned into a fortified area. As a result, it became possible to report on the complete liberation of Marinka only after the occupation of the last two houses on Ivan Franko Street in the north-west of the village.

We prepared fundamentally for this event. In the 150th Idritsa-Berlin Division, the assault units were given copies of the Victory Banner and assigned “their Egorov and Kantaria” - two per platoon, since no one knew exactly which building would be the last and which unit would ultimately hoist the victory flag. There were already several false starts, but then the flags were hoisted on the ruins of large buildings. And now Marinka has been officially liberated both as a territory and as a symbol.

Ukrainian troops retreated west to Georgievka and are gradually beginning to strengthen it. Next is Kurakhovo, which is also a fortified settlement, but not as strong as Marinka. Kurakhovo has always been a rear and headquarters base for the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and now they are hastily trying to turn it into a first-line position.

At the same time, the Ukrainian Armed Forces expected the Russian troops to advance in this direction. But the Russian Armed Forces changed their plan, and now pressure is being exerted south of Marinka, where the Ukrainian fortified area is located in the village of Pobeda. A little earlier, the Russian Armed Forces liberated the so-called Pitomnik, another fortified area that belonged to the Maryinsk defensive zone.

At the same time, fighting is taking place in the industrial zone of Novomikhailovka, a settlement to the south towards Ugledar. There stretches a chain of small settlements, which in some places grow together. This chain to Konstantinovka covers both Ugledar and the entire flank of the Ukrainian group that previously participated in the “counter-offensive” attempt. And this is a completely different part of the line of combat contact.

In other words, the liberation of Marinka has long ceased to be a local episode of the occupation of a single town. In addition to the fact that Marinka simply contained large assault forces that could be used elsewhere, this is a kind of key that can open movement at the junction of two Ukrainian Armed Forces groupings.

And Novomikhailovka is now gradually turning into a very hot position. The intensity of artillery fire there now is approximately equal to what is happening in Avdiivka. At the same time, the supply of reinforcements and armored personnel for the Ukrainian Armed Forces there is already seriously limited. If the Russian units manage to occupy Pobeda, then Novomikhailovka will be semi-encircled. Now the Russian Armed Forces are attacking Bogdanovka from three sides, the main clashes are taking place in a small industrial zone, also fortified in recent years. But in Novomikhailovka the purely physical scale is noticeably smaller than in Avdievka or Marinka.

At the same time, events west of Artemovsk are developing very actively. In the last two weeks, the Russian Armed Forces managed to occupy a number of strongholds, forest plantations and individual positions. As a result, the front advanced greatly all the way to Bogdanovka.

Now the situation around this village is hidden by the “fog of war,” but there is evidence that paratroopers and marines were able to enter Bogdanovka. Control over approximately a third of the populated area is possible, but overall Bogdanovka is still in the gray zone.

Bogdanovka is a direct route to Chasov Yar, although it doesn’t look obvious on the map. The fact is that the route from Khromovo to Chasov Yar in a straight line is rough terrain with hills and gullies. In such a situation, the path through the flat and elongated village looks both more promising and, so to speak, calmer. Then the first lines of Ukrainian positions begin at the Seversky Donets - Donbass canal.

The position of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the area of ​​the Kleshcheevka ruins also looks hopeless. Almost all key heights around the village, except one, are under the control of the Russian Armed Forces. There is no point in occupying the ruins themselves, lying in the lowlands. It’s just that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are gradually starting to retreat to the west, and there are no further fortified positions or large settlements there. That is, there remains a thin line behind which there is operational space of several tens of kilometers.

The enemy clings to any position. Just yesterday, the Ukrainian Armed Forces tried to counterattack on Khromovo, but to no avail. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are trying to stabilize the situation on some separate section of the contact line by manipulating reserves. As a result of this, and also due to changes in weather conditions, the fighting died down in the Kupyansk direction. In Kyiv they still believe that this is the main direction of a potential attack by the Russian Armed Forces, and are sending all possible reinforcements there. Nothing new is coming to Avdeevka, but the very nature of the fortifications allows the Ukrainian Armed Forces forces there to hold some positions for now. Units are being withdrawn from the Zaporozhye direction, that is, from the zone of the former “counter-offensive”.

Thus, the liberation of Marinka is not only a special symbolic event for the residents of Donetsk. The elimination of such a large defensive line of the Ukrainian Armed Forces once again changes the configuration of the line of contact. New geographical names begin to appear in news feeds, the front moves further and further from the old line of contact.

But most importantly: new combat and operational-tactical capabilities are emerging.

It should not be surprising that due to a number of objective circumstances, after such successful operations, the advance of the RF Armed Forces organically stops. You should not expect any avalanche breakthroughs, throws for tens of kilometers. This is possible, but not now, when the enemy’s previous defensive line still remains. In the main sections of the line of contact, this defensive system of the Ukrainian Armed Forces has remained unchanged. And operations such as the liberation of Maryinka and the potential liberation of Avdiivka destroy this system and create holes in it that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will never be able to patch up.

Kyiv's strategy is to create a new frontier, again based on relatively large population centers. This will be the focus in the winter.

https://vz.ru/society/2023/12/26/1246163.html

Damn shame…

once a month

Very generous from you.

sentenced to five years for talking to relatives

EU values

Let the inbred khokhol retards masturbate themselves senseless over their silly fakery.

Even if the ship was damaged, 2 larger and much more capable ships are nearing completion, 2 more will be ordered next year and
an additional 5 will be build until 2035. Not to mention the 2 heli carriers under construction.

Russian troops have taken full control of the town of Marinka

Short reminder: the decision to take (liberate) Marinka and some other towns, like Ugledar, was taken after the supa-dupa "counter-offensive"
was annihilated. The attacks that were made before had the purpose of keeping enemy troops busy and prevent the Ukros to send reinforcements
to other places.

A little more from the new Ukraine mobilization law.

Ukraine will be able to mobilize persons with disabilities of the third group.

Without one eye.

Without a kidney, lung, or bladder.

With paralysis of a limb or with stumps.

With castration.

With a height under 130 cm

There is a solution to the war . There WAS a solution to the war . Just because a patient's disease has a cure or solution , does not mean they will seek treatment . The Orcs need a war to stay in power . The " incompetent , " Jellyinsky needs to keep his neck out of the noose , and peace allows the mob to come after him and other Orcs . Yes we can not say " ...Orcs will loose power is true ! " But we can say " ...Orcs will most probably loose power . " So talking with them may not be productive at all . Russia may have better luck with direct talks with NATO over partition . Although taking out the top Orc political " elite , " will be a blow to them and a mini-denazification , it will not denazify Ukraine children , giving Nazi salute in stadium . For that entire Ukraine must be occupied for at least a generation , with education of entire population . Similar to Germany after WW2 . And disarmament will need the same plan , total occupation . And given the support of NATO , and realities on the ground , with Ukrainians ready to give 400,000 dead and a million injured , then how realistic is total occupation and success of this operation ? Therefore the only solution , if reached with NATO , one of partition , will secure a homeland for both people's , the killing will stop , but denazification and disarmament will not . A major confrontation with NATO , will be averted . But skirmishes may continue ,for terror attacks across the River . But that is the best and only hope for a solution . Yet the patient may die , and not seek treatment .

Question : What is Mouse fever ? Is this true ? Do Ukrainian troops have it or not ? If not , could this be biological weapon ? They did try before on small scale to use bio- weapons ! If so will Russia retaliate with WMD ?

It is not possible for any country to protect every single individual or asset. As the Ukrainian drone attacks in Moscow showed, there are 150 million Russian and probably everyone is a target. But can everyone be protected? Of course not.

Russia is protecting its high value targets. Every now and then one Ukrainian missile will slip through, there is nothing Russia can do about that. Performance of Western SAMs in Ukraine has been mediocre.

US Patriot SAM performance against Iraqi Scuds during Gulf War 1 was terrible. This is the reason why the US does not pick up a fight against a near peer rival like Russia and instead uses proxies.

sepheronx wrote:Just means shipyards will be busy for years to replace what was destroyed

Not only, all large landing ships in Russian service are long in the tooth. The Ropucha class are all at least 33 years old and the few remaining alligator class about 50 years (or more) old.
The new modified 11711 are much larger and much more capable, but possibly overkill as basic landing ships.

They can build a new class of landing ships with similar capabilities to alligator class (so displacement full load less than 4500 tons, max payload of 1000 tons) and some basic weapons (short range air defense, a naval gun and rocket launchers like tornado.

And these could be built in one of the shipyards of nikolaev after the war.