When the ambush on those su35 and su30 occurred it was released and acknowledge by the Russian airforce
The su34 story is ukro bs
https://t.me/fighter_bomber/15159
Fighter bomber confirmed no planes were shot down
It's just to distract from the fact Ukros lost NovoMikhailovka and are losing Krymky and are about to retreat from Sinkovka, while Klesheevka front is collapsing as well
Remember NATO said bad news was coming for Ukraine, they are about to desert the positions across the frontline
I would add there are negotiations, a special delegation was in Washington for 50+ hours
But without preconditions, no ceasefire will happen
Ukraine must demilitarize and denazify (regime change) in order to finalize the conflict
Biden wants to end the fighting but without preconditions
So donbass has to be liberated entirely, and then offer Biden a final accord, if he does not accept capitulation, then the final round of mobilization will be conducted, and this mass of equipment will be unleashed on Kiev one last time
Russian Troops Fully Liberate Strategic DPR Settlement of Maryinka, by Ilya Tsukanov for Sputnikglobe 12.25.2023.
The heavily-fortified settlement, situated on the outskirts of the city of Donetsk, was used by Ukrainian forces to indiscriminately shell the Donetsk People's Republic's capital for nearly ten years before finally being liberated by Russian forces.
The Russian Army has completed the liberation of Maryinka, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu has announced.
"In the course of offensive operations, assault detachments from the Southern Group of Forces completely liberated the settlement of Maryinka southwest of Donetsk," Shoigu told Russian President Vladimir Putin in a briefing on Monday..
"I would like to congratulate you. This is a success. Pass on the words of gratitude to all the staff and fighters who took part at different times and at different stages [in the settlement's liberation, ed.]," Putin replied.
The president expressed confidence that control of the settlement will allow Russian forces to push Ukrainian positions further back from Donetsk.
Shoigu concurred, saying Maryinka's liberation will also make it possible to more effectively protect the city of Donetsk from Ukrainian fire.
The defense minister said that troops from the 150th Motorized Rifle Division distinguished themselves in the settlement's capture. During WWII, it was the 150th Division which famously captured the Reichstag building in Berlin.
"The liberation of this settlement naturally reduces the defense capabilities of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and gives us additional opportunities for further actions," he said.
Maryinka had been turned into a fortress over the past nine years, connected by a network of underground passages, with fortifications on almost every one of its streets, Shoigu said.
Putin asked the defense minister to distribute medals to soldiers who distinguished themselves in the strategic settlement's liberation, and instructed him to promote the commander overseeing its capture to the rank of major.
"By breaking into this fortification, which the enemy has factually been building up since 2014...our troops have the opportunity to enter a wider operational area. But, of course, this is a matter for local commanders and specialists from the General Staff and the Defense Ministry. This is a separate issue, but in any case, this opportunity arises in this area," Putin said.
Maryinka was first captured by Donbass militias seeking to break off from Kiev's control in April 2014, after the Ukrainian government installed in the February 2014 coup launched an 'Anti-Terrorist Operation' against them meant to crush the rebellion by force. Ukrainian forces, including paramilitaries from the infamous neo-Nazi Azov Regiment, recaptured Maryinka in August 2014. From that time on, the strategic town, situated directly on the western outskirts of Donetsk City, was turned into a seemingly impenetrable fortress, and used by Ukrainian forces to launch regular, indiscriminate attacks against the militia-controlled city. Battles for the settlement by Donetsk People's Republic militias, now backed by the regular Russian military, began immediately after the start of Russia's special military operation in February 2022. Images of the settlement today show that it has been turned into a pile of ruins, with most civilians living in the town leaving after 2014, and the rest evacuated after 2022.
Kamikaze drones flew over Odessa yesterday, most likely they copied interesting locations. Today Onyxes or anti-radar missiles arrived there. Or ballistics, since it was very loud. We flew straight to different areas of the city, by the way, right around Odessa (Poskot/Lenpas/Fontanka/Krivaya Balka). According to various sources, from 5 to 8 explosions.
At the same time, there were 4 air defense sorties, all missed (consider the money thrown away). https://t.me/legitimniy/16941
Odessa was in the spotlight yesterday. Dozens of explosions in the city and the region. Anti-aircraft missile launches were in vain; the sky was illuminated by anti-aircraft artillery, but nothing was shot down.
According to our data, Russians hit radar systems and air defense installations with missiles, blinding the Odessa region. Following the missiles, kamikaze UAVs easily bypassed the defense.
The Bankova media department even tried to quell panic by falsely claiming the downing of a Russian Su-30/34 aircraft, as usual, without evidence.
There was also a drone attack on Pavlograd and, in general, on Dnipropetrovsk, Starokonstantinov Khmelnytskyi Oblast, Mykolaiv, Kherson, and Kharkiv Oblasts.
The conclusion from the entire story is that daily drone attacks seem to be achieving their goal of clearing the Ukrainian Armed Forces' air defense. After all, each launched anti-aircraft missile contributes to the shortage of ammunition. https://t.me/legitimniy/16942
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Ukraine is finished. They are your last fuses. Some media are already talking about a possible exile of Zelensky and the rest of the regime. Putin must wait for Biden's departure in 2024 and Trump's arrival to occupy the rest. You should not negotiate anything, only an unconditional surrender and the annexation of the territories. Russian troops preparing for massive advance in 2024 if Ukraine implodes and leaves a power vacuum.
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Putin and Lavrov have been making hard statements about their intentions. It looks like there is no interest in occupying western Ukria, but everything to the south from Odessa to the eastern side of the Dniepr River is going to be "annexed". The plans for Malorussia (Kiev and the central part on the west side of the river) are not made clear. But following Putin's historical logic, it must be returned to the fold as well. Any Ukrian regime can sit in Lvov and have NATzO recognition, whatever.
With no natural borders like mountains or rivers it will be hard to annexe those territories and stop the war. Border clashes will keep happening and nato will keep sending weapons to kill as many russians as possible.
Take it all or just eastern ukraine and use Dnipr as a border.
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Isos wrote:With no natural borders like mountains or rivers it will be hard to annexe those territories and stop the war. Border clashes will keep happening and nato will keep sending weapons to kill as many russians as possible.
Take it all or just eastern ukraine and use Dnipr as a border.
They will just keep firing missiles from their side of the river. It is not a long term solution.
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Isos wrote:With no natural borders like mountains or rivers it will be hard to annexe those territories and stop the war. Border clashes will keep happening and nato will keep sending weapons to kill as many russians as possible.
Take it all or just eastern ukraine and use Dnipr as a border.
They will just keep firing missiles from their side of the river. It is not a long term solution.
Such missiles are expensive.
Meanwhile equiping some squads with javelin or rpg is cheap.
As long as russian can control the river with drones and forbid the use of boats they will be quite safe. The river is a big obstacle not easy to cross.
The Donetsk group, as part of the Tavriya group, which is currently the most combat-ready among the dill, is fighting the hardest battles in two directions at once: Avdeevka, and the Marinka-Pobeda-Novomikhailovka line.
Tavria itself is still calm, but in an area of almost 120 km from it there are no more than 10 combat-ready brigades left. Here, two powerful army corps are going to strengthen our 58th Army at once. Since they have not yet been officially announced, we will not name them. And this despite the fact that two Russian tank brigades have not yet been brought into battle here. That is, it turns out that we are waiting for x hour. From the Odessa group, according to various sources, there were from four to six brigades left (not counting specialized ones) - the rest were sent to patch up holes in other directions. Well, the conditional reserve group North is at the border between the Sumy and Kharkov regions. From it, according to various sources, no more than 12 brigades remained, and opposite it in the Belgorod region 4 unnamed Russian corps are wandering like shadows (we will not name them until official sources appear).
And, apparently, this is only the tip - there are some signs that our forces in this direction will be increased next year. That is, no matter where you look, dill has a wedge in their lines everywhere. And in this regard, it is necessary to say a few words directly about the commanders of the dill troop groups - Syrsky, Tarnavsky, Naev and Moskalev. But more on that in the next part. To be continued.
Russia keeps pussyfooting around and this happens…Putin should be doing another round of mobilization and taking the fight to the nazis, become more ruthless goddamn it! Proclaim you’re going to take Odessa, which is a Russian city. Start massive bombings on Kiev, tell Belarus to open a northern front, start taking out military and civilian infrastructure, cause the nazi military uses both. Start going on the offensive in Novorossiya, stop waiting and turning this into a stalemate, with talks of “ceasefires”…You have to smash the nazis in the ukraine into a bloody pulp. This “war of attrition” will not benefit Russia long term with the goals it needs to accomplish.
billybatts91 wrote:Russia keeps pussyfooting around and this happens…Putin should be doing another round of mobilization and taking the fight to the nazis, become more ruthless goddamn it! Proclaim you’re going to take Odessa, which is a Russian city. Start massive bombings on Kiev, tell Belarus to open a northern front, start taking out military and civilian infrastructure, cause the nazi military uses both. Start going on the offensive in Novorossiya, stop waiting and turning this into a stalemate, with talks of “ceasefires”…You have to smash the nazis in the ukraine into a bloody pulp. This “war of attrition” will not benefit Russia long term with the goals it needs to accomplish.
You seeing a pattern yet? No? Look closely. Russia takes a strategically important sector of front, the Ukes get a commemorative postage stamp moment as an underdefended, and relatively minor munitions dump goes up. Its what Ukraine does. They take pictures of things going boom and hope to God nobody notices they are being forced to retreat all across the front.
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Russia keeps pussyfooting around and this happens…Putin should be doing another round of mobilization and taking the fight to the nazis, become more ruthless goddamn it! Proclaim you’re going to take Odessa, which is a Russian city. Start massive bombings on Kiev, tell Belarus to open a northern front, start taking out military and civilian infrastructure, cause the nazi military uses both. Start going on the offensive in Novorossiya, stop waiting and turning this into a stalemate, with talks of “ceasefires”…You have to smash the nazis in the ukraine into a bloody pulp. This “war of attrition” will not benefit Russia long term with the goals it needs to accomplish.
No one has ever been able to fight a war, "pussyfooting" or not, without suffering losses, so your whole mental breakdown is nonsense.
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If you look closely you can see the windows shatter with every rocket launch...
“Putin is indeed ready for negotiations, he himself spoke about this,” Peskov said in a commentary for The New York Times.
He wont be interested in any ceasefire except if it is part of Kievs unconditional surrender.
When I go to YouCrap I get spammed with retarded videos about how Russia is losing so badly that Putin is desperate for negotiations. Apparently, he has sent too many "meat waves" at the mighty Ukr lines and is running out.
My favourite is the UK news channels claiming to interview captured Russians special forces soldiers where they claim to be just treated like meat thrown into a grinder by Putin.
What a load of cobblers... but then the best propaganda has always been to project your own problems to make it look like the enemy has problems.
Nobody in Russia should be talking about ceasefires and negotiations.
And that is the problem for the west... the western audience will of course believe it because they are idiots and don't know any better... the global south wont believe it because they know what liars the west are, and the Russians recognise it is lies now so really the main effect will be young men in the EU who arrived from the Ukraine who are going to get scared they will be rounded up and sent back to the Ukraine... wonder what they might do...
Supposing an F16 is seen on Radar taking off from Airfield in Poland / Romania and heading to Ukraine , is it legal to destroy it or the Airfield , before plane crosses the border ? Supposing F16 has crossed border from Ukraine into Poland / Romania , is it legal to destroy it or Airfield after it crossed border ? What does article 5 say ?
I would say before it crosses the border or before it launches anything at any target inside the Ukraine it would be considered an EU country aircraft, but if it attacks targets in the Ukraine or crosses the border and lands in the Ukraine or attacks targets in the Ukraine or Black Sea then the plane and the airfield it took off from just became valid targets.
Technically that airfield would have attacked Russians or Russian forces so destroying things on that airfield would count as self defence and Article 5 could not be triggered.
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Geranek groups have entered the Kirovograd region and are heading towards the Kanatovo airfield
