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higurashihougi Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:12 pm

https://www.rt.com/russia/596014-zelensky-ukraine-israel-protection/

Treat Ukraine like Israel – Zelensky
The Ukrainian president wants the collective West to protect his country directly, pointing to how Iran’s strike this past weekend was handled

https://www.rt.com/news/596028-ukraine-israel-different-environment/

Ukraine different to Israel – White House
The US has no intention of directly engaging Russian forces on Kiev’s behalf, a senior official has said

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GunshipDemocracy Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:03 pm

ALAMO wrote:Worth to add, that it is the one that was supposed to be "modernized" and "invested with billions".

billings were surely invested - at least transferred there Very Happy

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GunshipDemocracy Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:05 pm

higurashihougi wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/596014-zelensky-ukraine-israel-protection/

Treat Ukraine like Israel – Zelensky
The Ukrainian president wants the collective West to protect his country directly, pointing to how Iran’s strike this past weekend was handled

yup in both countries Jews are presidents

Ukraine different to Israel – White House
The US has no intention of directly engaging Russian forces on Kiev’s behalf, a senior official has said

True, in Israel president although a Jew doesn't want to depopulate his country.

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GarryB Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:20 pm

3.000km range successor for Iskander.

Actually the Iskander could be replaced very quickly with an air breathing scramjet powered two stage missile with a solid rocket booster to get it airborne and a fuelled scramjet motor to reach as far as you want.

The Iskanders range was limited by the fact that its rocket motor had to run all the way to impact because its control surfaces were inside the rocket exhaust so it could only manouver when the rocket motor is running... but then with thrust vectoring engine its manouver potential would be astounding.

Lets hope he is wrong and its done by friday.

Don't rush it, do it right and safe for Russian and friendly forces... but perhaps a collapse and mass surrender by the other side and have it done by Friday would be nice.

Treat Ukraine like Israel – Zelensky
The Ukrainian president wants the collective West to protect his country directly, pointing to how Iran’s strike this past weekend was handled

He doesn't understand yet does he... you are the cannon fodder... they don't care what you lose... you can lose everything.

Essentially the Ukrainian forces of this war are the Soviet Forces of WWII as far as the west is concerned... useful for taking on the more dangerous for of Germany/Russia while they piss around in other theatres because direct confrontation with the Russians/Germans would cost them too many men.

They waited till the Soviets had defeated the German forces which were on a massive retreat ultimately to Germany before they executed D day... or operation at least rescue some Europeans so we can pretend to be the heroes.

Wonder what they are planning with Ukraine... but if they think they can step in and take land then they will have to think again even if Putin does not see many parts of eastern Ukraine as really being Russian that does not mean he wants them in the hands of HATO countries.

yup in both countries Jews are presidents

Both are also comedians, and both would be war criminals if the US was not protecting them.

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Denazification, demilitarization Cool

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higurashihougi Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:56 pm

https://www.rt.com/russia/596049-kremlin-olympic-truce-macron/

Moscow reacts to French-proposed Olympic truce

Ukraine typically uses any truce observed by Russia to gain an advantage on the battlefield, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Tuesday, responding to an ‘Olympic ceasefire’ proposal by French President Emmanuel Macron.

“Both our president and our military officials have pointed out that the Kiev regime usually uses such ideas and initiatives to regroup, rearm, etc. This certainly makes considering such initiatives much harder,” Peskov stated.

The Russian government has in any case not received any formal proposals from France in that regard, he added.

After Macron suggested an Olympic truce in Ukraine last month, Putin insisted that Moscow would be driven by its own interests and the battlefield situation when considering any calls for a ceasefire. “We stand for peace talks, but not those called because the opponent is running out of ammo,” the Russian leader stated.

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Hole Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:17 pm

after a mass surrender.

Some prefer mass surrender to mass assisted suicide.

The Ukrainian president wants the collective West to protect his country directly, pointing to how Iran’s strike this past weekend was handled

Try it.

Moscow reacts to French-proposed Olympic truce

As long as Russian athletes are allowed to compete with their flag and national anthem. dunno

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PapaDragon Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:04 pm

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:@PapaDragon

There is actually a fair number of pro Russian Ukrainians still. They are simply too scared to voice their opinion in banderite Ukraine.

They all jumped and they are all still yelling "Slava Ukraine"

Just roast them all and be done with it already

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ALAMO Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:20 pm

PapaDragon wrote:
They all jumped and they are all still yelling "Slava Ukraine"
Just roast them all and be done with it already

No, not "all" - just a loud minority.
And that is a real problem.
What's more, the overall Ukrainian population voted twice for peace.
And were screwed twice, which I like to repeat to make you well remember.
They are the victims here as well.
A lot of them remained in Russian-controlled territory.
A lot of them fled to Russia and Belarus - which is being forgotten as a part of general Russophobic agenda.
A lot of them fled west, never to return - and that was a continuous exodus for the last decade.
From my perspective, Ukrainian society in general might be much less zombified than Chechens used to be back in let's say 1999.
And I had a chance to observe both attitudes firsthand, starting with 1994+
Sure, it is hard to believe as you just face the most laud cases, most of them being a paid propaganda.
It is all being played by the same script, the sole difference is that now you can just watch on YT the things that were only observed if you experienced them in Chechenya.

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Odin of Ossetia Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:18 pm

ALAMO wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
They all jumped and they are all still yelling "Slava Ukraine"
Just roast them all and be done with it already

No, not "all" - just a loud minority.
And that is a real problem.
What's more, the overall Ukrainian population voted twice for peace.
And were screwed twice, which I like to repeat to make you well remember.
They are the victims here as well.
A lot of them remained in Russian-controlled territory.
A lot of them fled to Russia and Belarus - which is being forgotten as a part of general Russophobic agenda.
A lot of them fled west, never to return - and that was a continuous exodus for the last decade.
From my perspective, Ukrainian society in general might be much less zombified than Chechens used to be back in let's say 1999.
And I had a chance to observe both attitudes firsthand, starting with 1994+
Sure, it is hard to believe as you just face the most laud cases, most of them being a paid propaganda.
It is all being played by the same script, the sole difference is that now you can just watch on YT the things that were only observed if you experienced them in Chechenya.

The current level of "Zombification" of the Ukrainians is the same as it was the case with the Chechens during 1990's.

You need excuses for hiring them, so you are not unbiased on the matter.

https://wiadomosci.wp.pl/ojciec-rydzyk-reaguje-na-zarzuty-odpowiedzial-pytaniem-7015872048823200a

For now Poland serves them as a cow to be milked, that is all.

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Those cages are getting out of control. lol1

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GarryB Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:03 am

As long as Russian athletes are allowed to compete with their flag and national anthem.

There are no Russian athletes competing for Russia at these games so why should Russia bother even considering any ceasefire?

Those cages are getting out of control.

In the field it is lots of space to carry extra gear without filling up the inside of the vehicle, and it would make putting camouflage on the vehicles rather simpler and easier.

They could probably be sneaky and fix drones on each corner with cables running back to the vehicle so they don't need batteries and you could use them for external observation if you over did it with the camouflage. Some drones have thermals so you would get a rather good view of the outside with four of them... or even just two... one facing forward and one facing back.

Fit them with batteries and keep them charging with the power connection so you can launch a couple to act as proper drones if you need them.

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Big_Gazza Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:32 am

ALAMO wrote:Worth to add, that it is the one that was supposed to be "modernized" and "invested with billions".

Maybe they should have put some of that investment into an upgrade for its outdated fire detection and mitigation system? Razz

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ALAMO Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:09 am

Big_Gazza wrote:
Maybe they should have put some of that investment into an upgrade for its outdated fire detection and mitigation system?

That would spoil the usual western type of upgrade scam ... I mean scheme...

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higurashihougi Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:13 am

https://www.facebook.com/K01Archive/posts/pfbid0n9KsNBYjTx1ufr4dnnoW1StMVJycNg1Z8vcP2bbq8nXBbVEoHqGJxE6TGnDPMa9Dl

Image: search and rescue team in Russian helicopter forces, consists of Mi-28NM, Ka-52, Mi-8AMTSh.

Probably due to intensive Russian bombing and due to the reduced presence of Ukrainian frontline scout teams, Russian helicopters at the moment do not use many Izdeliye 305. They switch to the long range S-8, and then ATGMs. Notably, the fact that Ukrainian AA teams suffer from lack of ammo and Mi-28NM begins to deploy Khrizantema allow the Russian helicopter sorties to be more safe for the helicopter crews.

Ukrainian AA forces greatly reduce spending MANPADS. Russian crews reported that they are "seen" and "locked" by the enemy but no MANPADS are launched.

As there is only minor changes in the frontline, the tasks for Russian helicopters are less heavy. Meanwhile Ukrainian soldiers are still waiting for the next "counter-offensive".

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lancelot Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:08 am

This is pretty important. Upgrading the attack helicopters with improved sensors and long range weapons so they can strike Ukrainian troops outside of MANPADS and Strela range. There are versions of Vikhr, Ataka, and Khrizantema with over 10km range which should be enough.

I think Russia also needs to make laser guided rockets for the helicopters which can operate at that range.

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sepheronx Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:20 am

Apparently Ukraine hit the airfield in Crimea really hard, 12BM's from ATACMS.

Dzhankoy to be specific.

Any details yet?

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d_taddei2 Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:58 am

What happened to the so-called biggest sanctions package the world has ever seen? And the west saying Russian economy is in tatters? lol!

and to note this is a western source reporting this Very Happy

An influential global body has forecast Russia's economy will grow faster than all of the world's advanced economies, including the US, this year.

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) expects Russia to grow 3.2% this year, significantly more than the UK, France and Germany.

Away from Russia, the IMF downgraded its forecasts across Europe and for the UK this year, predicting 0.5% growth this year, making the UK the second weakest performer across the G7 group of advanced economies, behind Germany.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68823399.amp

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sepheronx wrote:Apparently Ukraine hit the airfield in Crimea really hard, 12BM's from ATACMS.

Dzhankoy to be specific. Any details yet?

Regarding the missile strike on Dzhankoy

Last night, the AFU launched an attack on the airfield in Dzhankoy. Around 12 ATACMS operational-tactical missiles were utilized for the strike, likely originating from the Kherson region.

The assault was executed in two phases. The initial strike involved seven missiles, seemingly equipped with cluster warheads, while the second wave deployed at least five. Some equipment at the airfield sustained damage, along with one of the buildings.

The attack could have employed both MGM-140A with a range of up to 165 km and MGM-140B with a combat radius of 300 km. By launching from the outskirts of Kherson, the AFU can easily reach Dzhankoy, even with the initial versions of ATACMS.

Similar to previous strikes, an American RQ-4B drone freely patrolled the airspace south of Crimea, overseeing the operation.

However, even in its absence, the adversary obtained the necessary information. Clear footage of the attacks is available on the Internet, thanks to the actions of pro-Ukrainian residents of the city, as well as some minors. (https://t.me/dva_majors/40237) These recordings provide essential insights.

The question remains as to why residents of Russian Crimea are seemingly untroubled by the repercussions of such actions. The lack of concrete punitive measures hampers the apprehension and prosecution of such individuals, thereby endangering our military personnel.

Meanwhile, Ukrainian forces are actively preparing for larger-scale assaults on the peninsula. A few days ago, there was an unsuccessful attempt to target the control point in Berdyansk, followed by today's attack on the airfield.

The objective is clear. Disrupt the coordination of our units by neutralizing command posts and causing significant damage to air defense forces. Achieving these dual aims, particularly with the fleet already weakened, is crucial for the AFU before targeting the Crimean Bridge.

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According to Ukrainian channels, at least three missile strikes were recorded in the Chernigov area.

https://t.me/intelslava/57770?single

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As a result of the arrival at the hotel in Chernigov, a large number of military personnel died. There are also many wounded (information about large enemy losses is confirmed by the Nazi Mosiychuk). They are now urgently collecting blood for them.

https://t.me/intelslava/57771

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PhSt Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:49 am

sepheronx wrote:Apparently Ukraine hit the airfield in Crimea really hard, 12BM's from ATACMS.

Dzhankoy to be specific

https://t.me/IntelRepublic/36404?single

Commentators argue that there is still a significant presence of pro Ukrainian sympathizers in Crimea that could be providing intel to NATO. If this is true, Russia needs to tighten the noose on these Terrorists.

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PhSt Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:52 am

As a result of the arrival at the hotel in Chernigov, a large number of military personnel died. There are also many wounded (information about large enemy losses is confirmed by the Nazi Mosiychuk). They are now urgently collecting blood for them.

https://t.me/intelslava/57771

Russia should have double tapped the strike to make sure every Nazi targets are eliminated

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JohninMK Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:58 am

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First information has appeared about morning missile strike by RuAF on Chernigov

Strike on the enemy command post in Chernigov.

This morning, Russian forces launched a strike with three aviation missiles on the enemy’s command post in Chernigov.

The enemy’s command post was set up in the building of the “Profsoyuznaya” hotel.

Reports from the scene indicate that the building suffered significant damage, with a large number of ambulances on site. Additionally, there is information circulating on social media about the need for blood donations.

Exact quantitative and qualitative indicators are unknown.

At the same time, there is preliminary information that the strikes occurred during a meeting of the leadership of the “Sever” operational command with the participation of Lieutenant General Dmitry Krasilnikov, who has held the position of commander of the group of forces in that direction since 2023.

GEROMAN -- time will tell -

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"At the time of the strike, in the Chernigov Hotel Profsoyuznaya there was a meeting of the leadership of OK North of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the participation of Lieutenant General Dmitry Krasilnikov, who holds (or held) the position of commander of a group of troops in this direction."
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Hole Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:20 pm

As there is only minor changes in the frontline

Regarding the missile strike on Dzhankoy

Rybar is such a piece of shit. Rolling Eyes

You can get better information from CNN.

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