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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:37 pm


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    ⏫⏫⏫Briefly about the situation in Chernigov:

    1⃣This morning the infrastructure of Chernigov was struck. The defeat of the Profsoyuznaya Hotel has been confirmed.

    2⃣Local emergency situations provide completely different statistics on victims: from 50 to 100 people.

    3⃣Former People's Deputy Mosiychuk reports that a meeting of the leadership of the OK "North" Armed Forces of Ukraine was held at the hotel. (In a hotel? Unified Command meeting? Seriously?)

    4⃣The buildings are evacuating the victims and carrying out the bodies of the dead. The condition of Lieutenant General Dmitry Krasilnikov, commander of OK Sever, is unknown.

    5⃣Esoteric bloggers believe that someone leaked the location of the Armed Forces of Ukraine military personnel.

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    ⏫⏫⏫ The Ukrainian Emergency Service confirmed a precise strike on a facility in Chernihiv.

    While Ukrainian media are crying foul about an alleged attack on a peaceful hotel, the KGB agents at the Ukrainian Emergency Service are providing an objective view. And in the broken windows of the “peaceful” hotel, you can clearly see military bunk beds.

    According to my information, this hotel has been officially closed since February 2022. There’s a military base near the hotel. During the Soviet Union, it was a communications regiment, and during the ATO, it was a security battalion.

    In March 2022, there were some good arrivals on the territory of the military unit. At the moment, every morning by 8:00, between the hotel and the unit’s fence, about 100-150 people, mostly in civilian clothes, would gather. Sometimes they would leave in buses with the inscription “School Bus.”

    Kudos to Russian intelligence and rocketeers!

    Information and analysis by https://t.me/sashakots/46153

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:48 pm

    A map showing quite well what a huge slog it has been over the past 2 years and continues to be for Russia to push forward through the well designed over many years UA defence lines. Hopefully once through and out of those conurbations it will be easier to roll the UA forces backwards.

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    Brown line is 30km from Donbass Arena is central Donetsk.

    Blue line is 40km from Donbass Arena.

    Only way Ukrainians can hit Lugansk now is by CMs or BMs. Donetsk-Makeevka is a huge backline. Being able to use said backline more freely will make massing for new operations a lot easier.

    Intermediate goal is to reach the brown line to push Ukrainian artillery to the blue line, making most of Donetsk-Makeevka out of even long-range artillery range.

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    Post  sepheronx Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:19 pm

    No, it was reported 12 missiles.  2 missiles can't cause that much damage. ATACMs fly at a standard ballistic trajectory and would be easier targets for the S300 and S400.

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    Post  Stealthflanker Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:32 pm

    That's unfortunate. As usual tho Ukies claim helicopters were hit etc.. but only based on FIRMS and maybe some Satellite imageries of the base prior to the strike.

    The loss of S-300/400 guarding the base tho can be discussed like how does it happen, did the battery on-line or in EMCON at that time ?. If it's in EMCON why there seems to be no backup battery providing the defense ?.
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:36 pm

    As per MoD
    https://t.me/intelslava/57790

    🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Russian Ministry of Defense: 191 Ukrainian drones were shot down over the past 24 hours.

    Also intercepted were six US-made MGM-140 ATACMS operational-tactical missiles and a French-made Hammer guided bomb.

    That indicates that roughly Rybar was correct in that 12 missiles were launched, possibly more at the airbase and roughly 50% of them intercepted. Not a great success of the AD system in that regard. So there may be more missing here.

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    Post  thegopnik Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:46 pm

    So this the 1st confirmed case of an s-400 destroyed?
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    Post  ALAMO Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:47 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
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    ⏫⏫⏫Briefly about the situation in Chernigov


    Hotel has left the chat...

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:50 pm

    Desperation time

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    The Ukrainian Armed Forces have launched a series of meteorological balloons equipped with explosives deep into Russia for the first time. One of them was intercepted by air defense systems in the Lipetsk region.

    According to Mash, a modified unmanned aerostat carrying kilograms of explosives crashed in a forest near the village of Novaya Slobodka. At least one more device was destroyed in the Kursk region. Some of the balloons were equipped with 81-mm mines, while others had corner reflectors for radars to mistake them for drones.

    These are essentially small-sized aerial balloons (MSAB). They are intended to fly over cities and drop bombs upon receiving a GPS signal. The weapons are designed for terror purposes. Previously, the Ukrainian Armed Forces launched them one by one, but now they are launching several at once. This tactic resembles what the Japanese did at the end of World War II — they sent balloons with incendiary bombs to the United States. The aftermath included several small fires.

    Our soldiers first shot down a "terror balloon" in March. It also had a GPS tracker, electronics, ballast, explosives, and a couple of batteries for power. The controllers were programmed with coordinates — the target location for the attack.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:52 pm

    (Not) a surprise. But very strange find. How many in total were there one wonders?

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    ❗Ukrainian police officers in co-operation with their German colleagues have found 161 Ukrainian children in Germany who were believed to have been taken to Russia, the head of the National Police of Ukraine, Ivan Vygovsky, has said.

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    Post  xeno Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:04 pm

    You see trolls already hurried to discuss "how S-400 was lost" before even any confirmation...

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    Post  xeno Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:06 pm

    BTW, one and a half years ago, a guy called redeffect on Youtube already talked about "the first comfirmed S-400 loss", and he had a photo too.

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    Post  kvs Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:14 pm

    A major operation to achieve results that will not benefit the Ukr war effort. More social media propaganda BS to feed the 6th column.

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:14 pm

    Hole wrote:
    As there is only minor changes in the frontline
    lol1 lol1 lol1

    There is nothing to laugh at. Minor compare to what Russian achieved in the beginning of the special military operation, when two provinces and two republics officially declared to join Russia. To be honestly, size-wise, the gains of for example Artyomovsk or Adeevka are small compare to the size of the Donetsk republic, and there are significant part of the former Donetsk region that is still in the hand of the Maidan government. That's the fact.

    But that is the proper approach for Russian army at the moment. Russia is not attempting to gain large chunks of land or make bold thrusts which can be costly and have high risks. Instead they attempts to make and solidify incremental gains of the vital points in the frontline which is small in size but very important in tactical value.

    Making bold thrust at the size of Bagration require mobilization of large amount of resources and can significantly compromise the economy, which is not what Russia want.

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    Post  calripson Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:18 pm

    Zelensky was bragging about destroying the Crimean bridge a few days ago and given the relative success of his new toys provided by the US, I would expect a symbolic strike on the bridge in the near future. I wouldn't be surprised if the Russian response would be to destroy the remaining non-nuclear power plants supplying the Kiev region.

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    Post  thegopnik Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:22 pm

    xeno wrote:You see trolls already hurried to discuss "how S-400 was lost" before even any confirmation...

    Well the media is already gloating about it and that might go on talking about it for a week because nothing major is happening just the usual slow push from Russia on the map, Even the telegram is look how much we intercepted, and they have not discussed any of the losses of those launchers even though they are clearly shown being destroyed. They should just not be prideful from the embarrassment Ukraine gave them and just confirm their losses to dispute what launchers got destroyed. Otherwise, we will just go with the Ukrainian claims If the Russians don't want to confirm which of their air defense launchers got destroyed.

    That number Ukraine claimed is still not embarrassing because they have like 400+ S-400 launchers and the few destroyed was from a massive attack..
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    Post  Hole Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:31 pm

    A map showing quite well what a huge slog it has been over the past 2 years and continues to be 
    One of the aims of the operation is to keep the area of hostilities (real ones, not just a few bombs dropped here and there)
    as small as possible. That´s why there was no big arrow movement to surround a large area and clear it afterwards. Maybe
    this will change this summer.

    Russian forces are only moving forward when the enemy is no longer coming to them.
    As soon as the Banderites would start some sort of "offensive" (How? Don´t know.) you
    would see Russians holding positions or even falling back to their old, better fortified positions.

    Minor compare to what Russian achieved in the beginning of the special military operation
    Big compared to the super-best counter-offensive in the history of warfare, according to NATO.
    Wait for the end of the SMO, then you will see big changes.  Very Happy

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    Post  kvs Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:09 pm

    People do not understand why Russia has not destroyed all the Dnepr bridges. Why should it if these bridges bring the meat to the grinder?
    The proper metrics to measure this war are not territorial gains but dead meat on the front. Ukria has lost over 500,000 KIA, Russia not even
    a tenth of this. There is no infinite supply of meat on the Ukr side. We will see an implosion of the Ukr army.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:10 pm

    The picture is from 2023

    And you all are rushing to the pigsty clown clown clown

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    Post  Isos Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:37 pm

    sepheronx wrote:As per MoD
    https://t.me/intelslava/57790

    🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Russian Ministry of Defense: 191 Ukrainian drones were shot down over the past 24 hours.

    Also intercepted were six US-made MGM-140 ATACMS operational-tactical missiles and a French-made Hammer guided bomb.

    That indicates that roughly Rybar was correct in that 12 missiles were launched, possibly more at the airbase and roughly 50% of them intercepted.  Not a great success of the AD system in that regard.  So there may be more missing here.

    Everytime they loose big equipement they say such things.

    Those s-400 are very close one from the others. Pretty dumb in the middle of a war when they can operate 10kms away from each others. Another lesson teached too late I guess.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:22 pm

    Isos wrote:

    Everytime they loose big equipement they say such things.

    Those s-400 are very close one from the others. Pretty dumb in the middle of a war when they can operate 10kms away from each others. Another lesson teached too late I guess.

    No confirmation of this even happening

    As of now multiple sources report the picture itself is from 2023 and is of s300 battery

    And there is no other evidence that s400 was destroyed

    Funny how people take hohol claims as truth, but then demand proof for Russian claims

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:36 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    As of now multiple sources report the picture itself is from 2023 and is of s300 battery

    Whos?
    Laughing

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:26 pm

    kvs wrote:People do not understand why Russia has not destroyed all the Dnepr bridges.   Why should it if these bridges bring the meat to the grinder?
    The proper metrics to measure this war are not territorial gains but dead meat on the front.   Ukria has lost over 500,000 KIA, Russia not even
    a tenth of this.   There is no infinite supply of meat on the Ukr side.   We will see an implosion of the Ukr army.


    I think that the main thing people overlook is that Russia does not want to **** up the country or its people. This is why NATO-style attacks only happened half a year into the conflict, and even at that point they were very mild in comparison to what the U.S. or NATO does from *day one*.

    Russia only very reluctantly, belatedly ramps it up as a response to increasingly unhinged Kievan antics: had Kiev and their backers not attacked Russian civilians or infrastructure, Russia would have left the Ukrainian powerplants etc alone to this day.

    Naturally, there are critics of this approach within Russia and its supporters. The "THD" ("total hohol destruction") slogan can be seen more and more among the detractors, but the Kremlin thus far plays it "too" cool.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:44 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
    I think that the main thing people overlook is that Russia does not want to **** up the country or its people. This is why NATO-style attacks only happened half a year into the conflict, and even there they were very mild by comparison. Russia only reluctantly ramps it up as a response to increasingly unhinged Kievan antics.

    Let's us all be serious for a moment, take a breath, and make some shy time travel.
    It is 1956, Budapest. How is a Russia-Hungary relations now?
    It is 1968, Czechoslovakia. Czech case is kind of complicated - I can explain - but where is Slovakia now?
    It is 1969, Amur delta. How is the Russian relations with China now?
    It is 1979, Afghanistan. How is today's relations of Russia with Afghanistan?
    It is 1985, Baber POW camp in Pakistan. How are today's relations of Russia with Pakistan?
    It is 1999, Gudermes. How are the today's relations of Russia and Chechenya?
    It is 2008, Poti. How are the today's relations of Russia and Georgia?
    ...

    A "funny" observation.
    Objectively, the nations and countries that were de facto privileged, saved, or supported by the Russian Empire in it's entire history, are in some of the cases the most Russkie eaters now.
    Georgia wouldn't be in a state of existence now, if not asked for an Imperial protectorate. Caucasian hordes would just kill, pillege, slave and rape them all.
    Bulgaria wouldn't have it's independence now, being a part of the Ottoman construct, if not the Russkie soldiers dying on the ridge.
    If you will ask Google about Suvorov crossing the Alps, what you get would be ... the paintings. Information about the event is secondary only Shocked
    Nachimov? His role in freeing the Greeks?
    It is simple incredible, but sadly easy to answer.
    Those are the ones targeted the most heavily by western sponsored propaganda.
    As soon as the real witness are fading a way - a grand opportunity for reshaping the history starts.
    This is how they do. This is how they operate.
    Feel free to add the dates, and make a check. And conclude.

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