2024 Iran–Israel conflict

Hole wrote:Oryx counted 12 S-300 systems destroyed. 

Only as long as you count Ukro ones.
Otherwise, he will leave the chat "for personals"

Interesting ideas about water and lakes , to capture high speed stuff . This will all work against conventional warheads . But as you mentioned the problem of a nuke earth penetrator strike , turning Earth into plastic flow exists .

Against nuclear bunker busters your options are rather more limited, but actually in terms of tank rounds vs tank armour the lessons appear to suggest thickness and layers and cavities are the best solution...

HESH rounds are big lumps of HE that spread on an armour plates surface and then are detonated... it doesn't penetrate the armour, but sends shockwaves through the armour and the inner surface of the armour flakes off so you get supersonic flakes of your own armour bouncing around inside the tank cutting up things and doing damage.

Spaced armour and layered armour rendered such rounds useless... only the British continued with rifled tank guns to use such rounds... against fortifications they are interesting but even APHE shells that explode inside walls and buildings and barricades outperform HESH so it is largely redundant now.

With high speed penetrators the armour designs tend to try to warp and be reshaped to flex or bend the penetrator to defeat it... layers moving in different directions to shear the penetrator or bend it or make it deflect to another direction or richochet completely.

To stop a shockwave moving through any material one of the best things is an air gap... and actually one of the best ways to try to defeat the enormous energy of a nuclear weapon is again... water... much of the heat of a nuclear explosion and its energy is consumed superheating the water and turning it into steam.

With mining technology the best protected bunker would be 2-3km deep like an old coal mine... if it has a lake on top or a man made reservoir on top all the better, but having multiple levels in this bunker system with the upper few layers being left empty or storing water and then the actual bunker complex below that with multiple entrances and exits would be a very tough nut to crack.

Such bunkers are often built in mountains so you can have multiple hidden exits and entrances as well as ventilation shafts that can all be hidden and disguised... you could build small villiages around each entrance or ventilation shaft to hide its presence... the locals might not even know what is there... it might be a ski resort or base location for local climbers to stay before they try climbing the mountain... a large water body nearby could be used for water supplies... a mining operation that removed useful materials could be reused as the basis for the bunker complex...

/ Channel 13 TV of the Israeli regime has published a 10-minute video report from inside the Nevatim Airbase.

— In this report, Alon Ben-David, the defense correspondent of Channel 13 TV of the Zionist regime, talked with Brigadier General Yotam Sigler, the commander of Navatim Air Base, and he explained the events of the night of the attack.

— In response to a question about the number of missiles hit and the number of people injured in this attack, Yotam Sigler said: "I will not say anything in these cases, because providing information is in the interest of Iran!"

https://t.me/iswnews_en/10937

/ An Israeli pilot who participated in the mission against the drones and cruise missiles fired by Iran at Israel, describes this experience as the most complicated mission he has ever had!

— He said "the mission was like 'Top Gun' meets 'Star Wars'. It was the most complicated mission I’ve done in 20 years in the air force, knowing that if there is a missed target, it might blow up in Israel."

He's right, because Israeli pilots are over Gaza within minutes after taking off from the runways, safely circling the skies of Gaza without any air defense chasing them, dropping their multi-ton bombs on the defenseless people and return to the base again. They have never experienced a real battle!

https://t.me/iswnews_en/10938

It seems that in the end, Israel did not dare to strike back at Iran.
Which confirms the change in the situation in the Middle East, which has been taking place since the triumph of Hezbollah in the 2006 war against Zionism.

IRGC spokesman says that 10 countries helped Israel defend against Iran's retaliation attack.

// According to Israel Army Radio, during Iran's missile attack on Israel, the US Navy fired eight SM-3 missiles (RIM-161 Standard Missile 3), of which only two reached their target and the rest of the missiles failed !!!

https://t.me/iswnews_en/11104

Middle East Spectator, [31/7/2024 04:26]
– // BREAKING:

The leader of the political wing of Hamas, "Ismail Haniyeh," was assassinated in Tehran.

@Middle_East_Spectator

Middle East Spectator, [31/7/2024 04:30]
— General Public Relations of the IRGC announced: With condolences to the heroic and islamic nation of Palestine and the and the fighters of the resistance and the noble nation of Iran, the residence of Dr.Ismail Haniyeh, the head of the political office of the Islamic resistance of Hamas, was hit in Tehran this morning. and following this incident, he and one of his bodyguards were martyred; The cause and dimensions of this incident are being investigated, and the details will be announced later.

@Middle_East_Spectator

Middle East Spectator, [31/7/2024 05:13]
— // The Supreme leader of Iran ayatollah Khamenei: With this action, the criminal and terrorist Zionist regime prepared the ground for a harsh punishment for itself, and we consider it our duty to avange him (Ismail Haniyeh) who was martyred in the territory of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

@Middle_East_Spectator

Humiliating. No one is safe in Iran. Not their leaders, nor their guests and certainly not the average citizen. 

What a shitshow.

lyle6 wrote:Humiliating. No one is safe in Iran. Not their leaders, nor their guests and certainly not the average citizen. 

What a shitshow.

A very silly opinion. Taking into account that Iran opposes a regional power like Israel, which is supported, financed and armed by the First World Power: the USA, with NATO included.
You have to analyze more seriously before writing.

Latifah, Haniyeh’s daughter to those who blame Iran:

“You Arabs didn’t welcome him in your countries, and you are closer to us than Iran!
Iran was our supporter, more than you. For this, you have no right to talk against Iran, the capital of Islam that’s more honorable than you”

A red "revenge flag" has been raised over the Jamkaran Mosque in Qom, Iran after the assassination of Hamas politburo chief, Ismail Haniyeh.




Previously, it was raised after the explosions at the cemetery in Kerman (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/13000) in January, when dozens of people were killed, and before that - after the assassination of Qasem Soleimani in January 2020.

Red flags in the Shiite tradition symbolize unjustly shed blood - and a call to avenge the murdered man.

https://t.me/geopolitics_live/30038

There seems to be a wave of twitter bots disguised as “muslim accounts” all copy pasting or tweeting the same propaganda saying Iran sold Haniye or Haniye was safe in Qatar and elsewhere but not in Iran.

Whoever is behind this virtual psyop is playing into exactly what Israel aimed to achieve: Creating doubt and uncertainty towards Iran.

Don’t fall for this hasbara crap.