2024 Iran–Israel conflict

lyle6 wrote:Humiliating. No one is safe in Iran. Not their leaders, nor their guests and certainly not the average citizen. 

What a shitshow.

The Iranian responses have been inadequate in the face of attacks by US and Zionists . They do direct attracks and kill people , Iran does indirect attacks or symbolic attacks . Of course they do not learn and repeat the same . Simply teaching a lesson will not work . Not another SMO ! Send ground troops and finish them . Can not punish , can not make regret , SMO in Ukraine turned into meat- grinder , slaughter of 2000+ per day . Looks like any old war to me !

Pakistan sold out Osama. Iran sold out Haniyeh.

Write that down.

Forget about Palestinians , Lebanese and Syrians for a moment . Even if they did not exist , makes no difference . The Zionists exist together with uncle scumbags on the Eastern shore of Mediterranean Sea , with nukes ! They have to be removed !

Sujoy wrote:Pakistan sold out Osama. Iran sold out Haniyeh.

Write that down.

Israeli would have released the tape where you see them selling him out making all the iranian proxies in the region afraid of Iran and make Iran loose all their influence.

Totally dumb assumption.

Isos wrote:Israeli would have released the tape where you see them selling him out making all the iranian proxies in the region afraid of Iran and make Iran loose all their influence.

Totally dumb assumption.

So you are saying that the chief of Hamas was so lightly protected that just 4-5 gunmen could enter that place and shoot him dead?

Just a few moths ago, Iran and Israel carried out a fake missile attack on each other. You probably believe that too was real.

IRGC have been subverted by MOSSAD ( and ISI) with the help of Qataris. Whether you accept it or not won't make any difference.

From intel Slava telegram channel:

Israeli intelligence tracked Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh via WhatsApp

According to Lebanese journalist Elia Manier, Israeli intelligence installed spyware on Haniyeh's phone via a WhatsApp message.

The spyware made it possible to detect the exact location of the house where the Hamas leader was located and launch a missile strike on it from a drone.

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:From intel Slava telegram channel:

Israeli intelligence tracked Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh via WhatsApp

According to Lebanese journalist Elia Manier, Israeli intelligence installed spyware on Haniyeh's phone via a WhatsApp message.

The spyware made it possible to detect the exact location of the house where the Hamas leader was located and launch a missile strike on it from a drone.

Good point , I was thinking yesterday ,  that these assassinations are done using mobile phone tracking , even without spyware , the mobile phones have been tracked using triangulation by mobile phone towers for some time now ! But irrespective of the method of location , that can be as simple as human sources that can never be stopped , the deed is done !

Israeli intelligence tracked Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh via WhatsApp

Yeah sure! The leader of a major anti west resistance group was so incredibly dumb that he communicated using a western app like WhatsApp. Never heard of guys like Jamal Khashquji.

Also how does one use WhatsApp in Iran given that it is banned? By using a VPN? But then several users are using that VPN. Who helped Israel, US to zero in on his WhatsApp IP connected to the VPN?

Interesting that it's not Israel or US who are trying to keep people off the scent but rather it is Iran.

Eugenio Argentina wrote:The Iranian response will come in due course and we will not know what it will consist of until we see it.

SPOILER ALERT: Another fake missile attack.

A proportionate response in this case , would not be an overt one , using missiles and such , targeting the entire Israel and legitimizing Yank intervention . It would be a mirror response to target a high ranking Zionist , visiting an allied country , in a similar manner . Either that or launch a ground offensive using 500,000 men , and be ready to retaliate with nukes , once they fire theirs . Firing a few missiles to make them regret or punish , will likely bring the yanks in , while not having desired effect !

The Iranian security services have been compromised . Plenty of evidence . The Iranian military advisors , so easily taken out in Syria by Israeli planes , informants may not be Syrian at all . They are just as likely Iranian . My suggestion that Syrian and other military advisors to visit Iran , protected by AD and security , no longer holds , given the latest incident in Iran and Syria . The solution is not send senior people on holiday to other countries . I also said that high ranking individuals in the military , who know military secrets , should not travel abroad ! But the Iranians , to show bravery and resolve , sent Bagheri to Iraq ! After soleymani assassinated ! They never learn ! Supplies and material can go . Better still money and instructions and machine tools , bought on the market can go .

And they were late showing photo of building in which Haniyeh killed ! Why ? Because it was not missile , plane or drone . The explosion far too small !  It was hand planted , being  inside job !



The Iranian analogy by President and Leadership , comparing a complex geopolitical situation to school- yard is wrong ! We are not their parents or teachers ! They are not children at school , where we can teach them a lesson , or make them regret ! They are not making mistakes , they do not lack knowledge ! We do not offer better alternatives to them or a solution . Therefore we can not make them regret .

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Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was killed by an explosive device smuggled into the Tehran guesthouse where he was staying, according to seven Middle Eastern officials, including two Iranians, and an American official — NYT

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