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Isos wrote:That's just a small part of the base and noot the one where f-35 are I think. You can see big planes around so very likely hangar for them or repair shops.
Here is the base location :
31.200033249033964, 35.018431790302124
As we could see about 20 direct missile strikes, the scale of destruction is clearly higher than three visible hits.
Edit : what is supposed to be a record of Iranian missiles flying over Jordan.
We can mark some interception attempts being done, and a few missiles hit en route.
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“The Iranians targeted exactly what they wanted to target (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/34054)… multiple air bases, including the one that, apparently, the attack that killed Hezbollah's Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah [was launched from],” he noted. “It's a new day for Israel. It's a new day for Iran, for the US, for the resistance axis, for the entire world.”
“They gave the US time, they gave a chance for a ceasefire in Gaza... But we have seen now for months on end that Israel sabotages these negotiations (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/23173) day in and day out.”
Israel’s regional deterrence has historically rested its Iron Dome and the support it enjoys from the US. But Iran’s use of hypersonic missiles has proven that Tehran has the ability to bypass the defense system (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/34059)and strike any target within Israeli territory. Meanwhile, the US has found itself boxed in by the upcoming presidential election as President Biden works to prevent the outbreak of a regional war that could sink Democrats’ chances in November.
“They are getting cut down [in Lebanon],” Carrillo claimed. “They are getting ambushed (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/34179). They are getting sent back with their tails between their legs because they do not have the winning hand. So Iran last night warned Israel, ‘Do not miscalculate.’”
After Tuesday’s attack, has Iran eclipsed Israel’s deterrence capacity? (Part 2 Part 1 (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/34195))
Beirut-based journalist Esteban Carrillo claimed the balance of power in the Middle East has changed after Iran’s attack against Israel Tuesday (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/34060), with Iranian hypersonic capabilities and other events on the ground limiting Israel’s options.
“‘Do not think that you can, at this point, hit us again,’” Carrillo said on Sputnik’s Fault Lines program, summarizing the message sent by Tehran’s attack. “‘Because if you do, if you come and you hit Iran,’ they are saying, ‘you are going to face our wrath. You are going to quickly collapse. This is going to be the end of you. (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/34104)”
Meanwhile, questions have been raised about the United States’ capacity to continue arming its Israeli ally as it faces commitments across the globe.
“How are we now going to supply Israel in another war?” asked host Jamarl Thomas, suggesting the US is being stretched thin by providing arms in various conflicts. “Against what, three states? Four states? Gaza, Syria, Lebanon, and Iran? And the Houthis. Five states. How are we going to supply weapons for this larger war while the war in Ukraine also continues (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/33648) at a steady pace?”
“Don't forget about Taiwan too,” Carrillo noted, “this planned escalation against China (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/31494) which is also in the wings, which is also something that the US hasn't given up on… Diplomacy is a foreign word for [the US government]... a dirty word even… US officials seem really just hellbent on lining their pockets with money from the weapons companies because at the end of the day, war is just a money-laundering machine.”
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Video does NOT show intercept . It shows an explosion only . There is no Rocket plume before intercept . Unless this Rocket had invisible plume , unlike others . Most likely the SAM warhead designed to spend it's payload at terminal point . As was pointed out before , why sirens sounded after Rocket impact ? And such low intercepts ? Me thinks Rockets are low RCS .....Plus decoys........And fast !
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Video does NOT show intercept . It shows an explosion only . There is no Rocket plume before intercept . Unless this Rocket had invisible plume , unlike other wrote:
These are intercepts. The ABM missile's engines are not running all the time. They occur high above the atmosphere.
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More damage than previously admitted!
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Colour me unimpressed. Israel is like its pet pit bull America, only ready to attack defenceless countries.
But this does not make Iran safe. It has apparent internal subversion rot and can drop the ball with any military engagement with Israel and its dog. The death of the previous
president demonstrates this well. Dying while riding a decrepit US helicopter instead of functional and better Soviet/Russian models. The infiltration is deep.
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left. It has been hijacked by globalists who are ultimately the worst form of right wing. They want to restore the aristocratic order with the prole masses being serfs on their
plantations. Any "leftist" that lubricates this process needs to be exterminated.
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kvs wrote:If the "left wing" needs to pander to the NATzO west in its alleged fight with the right, then it is nothing but compardor scum. This appears to be a common theme with modern
left. It has been hijacked by globalists who are ultimately the worst form of right wing. They want to restore the aristocratic order with the prole masses being serfs on their
plantations. Any "leftist" that lubricates this process needs to be exterminated.
What you were referring to , and is generally confused with the " left , " is actually the liberal left or phoney left . A section of the right wing , what you called the globalist . I am not talking about that . I was talking about the Iranian working class political party , that was exterminated and the large masses of Iranian people who are the majority and are powerless and oppressed by the right wing . The right wing in power now , is a mix of liberal and national elements , but in their oppressive and dictatorial rule , they unite against the majority . I think that , if confronted with loosing power to the left ( Iranian working class ) , that they would unite with even the monarchists and invite uncle Sam back .
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Some explosions (00:21) are stronger than the others which means that the 700-800 kg heavy warheads of the Iranian liquid propellant missiles also hit this base.
Keep in mind, this is israel’s most secured airbase and they are very proud of this base.
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— / BREAKING: A senior Iranian Official has told Al-Jazeera:
'We have sent a message to the United States through Qatar that any Israeli attack would be met with an unconventional and disproportionate response that would include nationwide infrastructure.
The phase of unilateral restraint is over. There is a regional need to restrain Israel and its madness.'
@Middle_East_Spectator
Middle East Spectator, [3/10/2024 10:40]
— / Iranian Official to Al-Jazeera: 'We have come to the conclusion that showing restraint simply does not benefit us in terms of national security nor regional stability – Israel will do whatever it wants regardless, so now we will make them pay'
@Middle_East_Spectator
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On October 1, Iran fired (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/34067) around 200 ballistic missiles at Israel in retaliation for Israel’s killings of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh and Hezbollah secretary-general Hassan Nasrallah. Iran claims 90% hit their targets (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/34054), while Tel Aviv insists their “state-of-the-art” air defense stopped most of them – although evidence on the ground suggests otherwise. How did Israel’s missile defense fare when really put to the test?
Iron Dome: Designed for short-range threats like rockets and mortars, with a range of 4-70km. Each battery has a radar and launchers with 20 interceptors. But its weakness against mass rocket attacks has been exposed, and at $50,000 per missile it’s not exactly budget-friendly.
David's Sling: Built for longer-range threats up to 300km, it uses kinetic "hit-to-kill" tech to shoot down ballistic missiles. But it lacks a fragmenting explosive warhead to take out missiles in a near-miss, and like its counterparts it buckles under mass missile attacks.
The Arrow 2 and 3 systems are built to stop medium and long-range missiles up to 2,400km away and can target 14 missiles at once. But when the skies get busy, accuracy falters and their blind spots for fast-moving threats become a real problem.
Iron Beam: The new kid on the block – except it’s still not quite ready to play. Touted as a ‘Star Wars’ weapon using lasers to shoot down missiles, the Iron Beam is still in development. For now, it’s nothing more than a promise on paper and Israel remains vulnerable while waiting for this technology to come online.
CNN reported that some Iron Dome batteries would be overwhelmed if Israel launched a full-scale war with Lebanon’s Hezbollah.
Russian military historian Yury Knutov told Sputnik that the Iron Dome is effective only when dealing with a few targets coming from one direction. During last year’s surprise Hamas attack on Israel, a number of rockets launched by the Palestinian militant group penetrated the air defenses and struck Israeli cities.
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Israel of course denies it. Several dozen F 35Is would be a huge loss. It also shows how vulnerable the air force is to this type of attack. Of course, satellite photos will not appear. Unless the Russians make something public.
Probably countries like Russia will not show those images publically in order to avoid emberassing those Zionist cry babies. Emberassing insecure bullies just makes them more dangerous.
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Maybe not all are operational and could have been hit.
Also they could have sent them in Cyprus in that UK base there.
I doubt they didn't think about it before.
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Pinpoint accuracy.
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Isos wrote:F-35 were probably in the air, they had a small window to take off as iranian preparation were seen by the satelittes. Pilots were for sur inside the fighters and they sent all of them in the air once launches were detected. Fuel tankers were also in the air at that moment.
Maybe not all are operational and could have been hit.
Also they could have sent them in Cyprus in that UK base there.
I doubt they didn't think about it before.
Now, just take a step back and watch what you have said from the perspective.
A war is a war. It rules its laws.
We are still busy discussing a single digit losses of equipment ...
Why?
Because it is the western driven narrative.
A single F-35 replacement will take a year.
Sure they are producing those on line, but still we are not talking about 15 pcs rolled out of a hangar a day. But a the 150 a year, ordered in 5 years advance ...
It is an insane picture of a tail shaking the dog ...
Western MIC won't accept lower income and profit margine.
But Russkie, Chinese etc - don't follow that logic.
Dare to imagine an end effect?
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This map was created by a friend of mine from ISW (https://t.me/iswnewsmaps) .
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Balls
Capability
Achieving operational surprise
It was very successful in all these respects, and the minutiae of what equipment was damaged and what wasn't is of no importance. If the Iranians had given no warning then they could probably have taken a reasonable amount of hardware, and some personnel too. But taking out equipment and manpower wasn't the priority, they wanted to send a message not repeat Pearl Harbor
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nomadski wrote:
I was talking about the Iranian working class political party , that was exterminated and the large masses of Iranian people who are the majority and are powerless and oppressed by the right wing . The right wing in power now , is a mix of liberal and national elements , but in their oppressive and dictatorial rule , they unite against the majority . I think that , if confronted with loosing power to the left ( Iranian working class ) , that they would unite with even the monarchists and invite uncle Sam back .
How do you know that most people in Iran are unhappy? What is your source of information? And of course, they want to live in countries where "refugees" replace their population, with censorship, high crime rates, chronic crises, and imprisonment for not using the correct pronouns. You mean Western democracies?
Pahlavi was a British bitch. He was dictator too the only difference is they were western bitches. After MI5/6 +CIA overthrow democratically elected Mossadegh. But ok I dont get it its something else
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