Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
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Oh come on, that Patriot made a 100 percent interception of a Russian missile so no defeat there. That said, Patriots are a one and done disposable weapons system like an rpg right? They're not meant to he used repeatedly? Right? Right?
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This Iskander was surely intercepted!
By the way, just take a look at the fragmentation pattern.
It is some ... 300-400m radius?
Fully covered by the fragments?
Heavy ones, considering the amount of dust those created ...
Yeyks ... That hurts ...
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Kraken and Aidar will probably run like Azov did without meat in front
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Lancet destroyed Buk, and Patriot got iskanderized
Seems the Ukros fell for the bait
In bringing AD forward they try to stop FAB carriers from working
But being so close makes you an easy target for Lancets
https://t.me/remylind21/21130
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Let's wait and see.
Arkanghelsk wrote:Ukros bringing air defenses close to border
Lancet destroyed Buk, and Patriot got iskanderized
Seems the Ukros fell for the bait
In bringing AD forward they try to stop FAB carriers from working
But being so close makes you an easy target for Lancets
https://t.me/remylind21/21130
Take a closer look folks.
It is a Buk, but it clearly lacks the Buk missiles.
Some sort of crate containers.
It exploded nicely, so there were missiles inside for sure - the question is what type?
AMRAAM?
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flamming_python wrote:Karl Haushofer wrote:One thing that I have thought for a long time is that why do the Ukrainians allow themselves to be slaughtered like this?
Do they actually think it is worth sacrificing an entire generation just to keep Russia out? Do they actually WANT to fight Russia until the last Ukrainian?
Or are they being unwillingly sent to die? If yes, then why aren't they able to revolt against the regime? Are they not able to organize? Why isn't Russia more actively helping underground partisans in Ukraine? Or do these partisan groups even exist?
My uneducated guess is that the current nationalist regime in Ukraine is a well-organized and western-supported minority, while the majority of Ukrainians are apathetic and unorganized.
A well-organized minority can rule over an entire country even if they represent just 5% of the population, if the rest of the country does not care and is apathetic. It happened in 1917 in Russia with the Bolsheviks. This is the reason why I find it difficult to understand why Russia refuses to kill the representatives of Ukrainian regime. Why kill thousands of conscripts instead of cutting the head of the monster.
The only Ukrainians with any guts are the Nazis. This explains 80% of everything that's going on.
There are many anti-Zelensky and anti-Bandera Ukrainians in fact. They're just mostly outside the Ukraine by now, that's all.
Well there is a small core of informers in the Ukraine that feeds Russia intel of course. Especially in large Russian-speaking cities such as Odessa and Kharkov.
Them colonizing Poland does not mean they are anti-Zelensky and anti-Bandera. It could mean they will go after an easier target in the future, and currently a fifth column is being prepared.
And if the Ukrainian nationalists have guts then why "Azov" runs away when they do not have any non-Azov "meat" in front of them?
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This means no reinforcements are coming from the east to help Kharkiv
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Some sources from the Ukrainian side note that there are significant changes in the tactics of using aerial bombs near Volchansk and the surrounding area.
While FABs are weeding out supports and fortifications, ODABs are flying into barracks and concrete buildings occupied by Ukrainian troops.
As a result, not only communications, target designation and reconnaissance are disrupted, but also any communication between units on the front line and in the immediate rear, and the connectivity of nearby positions is lost.
Russian troops used the same technique during the assault on Avdeevka.
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Kiko wrote:"They are in a panic”: the US named two cities with which Ukraine will part ways, 05.10.2024.
Johnson: Russia won't stop until it reaches Kyiv and Odessa.
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Kiev is a distraction, Odessa is what matters
They will get closer to Kiev just to force Ukrs to divert troops from more important areas of the front
White elephant must be protected
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On May 9, Ukrainians overloaded Starlink by 70% to watch the Victory Parade in Moscow
According to the company, in Ukraine people massively connected via Starlink to open YouTube and watch the Victory Parade.
According to the report, the average viewing depth was 91%.
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The United States announced a new package of military assistance so-called. Ukraine worth $400 million.
The package includes:
Additional missiles for the Patriot air defense system
Additional missiles for NASAMS air defense systems
Stinger MANPADS
Equipment for the integration of Western launchers, missiles and radars into the Ukrainian air defense system
Additional HIMARS MLRS and ammunition for them
155 mm and 105 mm artillery shells caliber
Bradley infantry fighting vehicle
M113 armored personnel carrier
MRAP class armored vehicles
Trailers for transporting heavy equipment
ATGM TOW
Javelin ATGM and AT-4 anti-tank grenade launchers
High-precision aircraft ammunition of an unnamed type
HARM anti-radar missiles
Small arms and additional ammunition for them, as well as grenades
Explosive ammunition and obstacle clearing equipment
River patrol boats
Radiation, chemical and biological protection equipment
Spare parts, training equipment and other support equipment.
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Understatement of the day.the ratio is more than 10:1 in favour of the Russians.
It is just like arguing with a rock - they share the IQ level.
Careful, buddy!
New understatement of the day.Interesting.
Sparrow and Sidewinder, according to some dudes.It exploded nicely, so there were missiles inside for sure - the question is what type?
AMRAAM?
Another loss for the Russians!Very big logistics problem for the Ukies.
One missile less they can use!
New nickname for Zelensky?White elephant must be protected
There are some systems left?Additional missiles for the Patriot air defense system
Additional HIMARS MLRS and ammunition for them
Why keep they sending such crap?HARM anti-radar missiles
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Hole wrote:
Sparrow and Sidewinder, according to some dudes.
They have tested AIM7 and AIM120 in Polish Kub systems.
Kub and Buk are somehow interoperational.
Soooo ... my guess is Sparrow.
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Tying up 150,000 cannon fodder in Kiev will prevent the Nazis from sending reinforcements to Odessa and if they send them anyway then Russian forces will easily encircle the city and make a speedrun to Lviv. From there they can bomb the crap out of the Banderastanis and also prevent any more weapons from reaching further than the Polish or Romanian border. This war could be over a lot quicker than some of us here are expecting.PapaDragon wrote:Kiev is a distraction, Odessa is what matters
They will get closer to Kiev just to force Ukrs to divert troops from more important areas of the front
White elephant must be protected
I also suspect there's a large number of Ukrainian POW's right now that would love to join Russia in pulverizing the Nazi stronghold of Galicia so they should be used instead wherever possible to save Russian personnel.
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Arkanghelsk wrote:Kharkov offensive begun
Recon in force/DRG is clearing the border area
The sanitation zone is being enforced
The first prisoners appeared on the border, a dozen and a half soldiers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces surrendered to our forces, unable to withstand the blow. Several dozen dead soldiers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, killed in a shooting battle, how many Ukrainians were destroyed by artillery and aviation is still unknown.
For example, ODAB 1500, which flew straight down the Ukrainian road in Volchansk at about one in the morning, probably evaporated almost everyone who was at this facility.
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Seems RU has 150k troops to clear out the north zone
Expect south donetsk to run concurrently to Kharkov
There is estimated 50k not 150k Russian troops in that direction attacking l, hardly enough to penetrate deep into Ukrainian lines, they are just setting up an buffer zone
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Arkanghelsk wrote:Kraken and Aidar will probably run like Azov did without meat in front
..but hopefully the bastards won't get far before karma catches up with them
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ALAMO wrote:It exploded nicely, so there were missiles inside for sure - the question is what type?
AMRAAM?
FrankenSAM. Buk M1 modified to carry Sea Sparrow and Sidewinders.
It seems that the murkhan uber-tech doesn't work as advertised and that their gear burns just as well as the Ukies old Sov-era inventory. Nothing new here folks, move along....
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Karl Haushofer wrote:This is the reason why I find it difficult to understand why Russia refuses to kill the representatives of Ukrainian regime. Why kill thousands of conscripts instead of cutting the head of the monster.
Simple. It is in Russias long term interest for every last Ukrainian male of fighting age who hates Russia to be given the chance to join the AFU, pick up a weapon, head to the front and to get KILLED. That means one less Ukro enemy to deal with after the fighting is done, and one less potential troublemaker or potential insurgent. Some men will be consripted against their will and forced to fight, many or even most of them will be ethnic Russians, and that is unfortunate, but it doesn't change the logic. If those unwilling victims of the regime die in combat, most of the blame will fall on the shoulders of the deposed Ukronazi regime, ie a Russian micro-win. If those unwilling victims survive until the final defeat and are demobilised, they will most likely blame their misfortune on the deposed Ukronazi regime, ie a Russian micro-win. Such micro-wins will accumulate to Russias gain.
This is the calculus of war. It's nasty, brutal, inhuman and borderline psychotic, but its the only way to win a struggle between two so profoundly at-odds ideological outlooks. Kill or be killed, eliminate the enemy, hold your nose and suspend your basic humanity until the job is done and the healing can start. Russia didn't want this bloody fratricidal war (NATO did) but will sure as hell finish it, and will finish it to their satisfaction.
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SeigHeil wrote:
There is estimated 50k not 150k Russian troops in that direction attacking l, hardly enough to penetrate deep into Ukrainian lines, they are just setting up an buffer zone
For once I have to agree with you! However it is now clear that the enemy is on the run and it seems likely that the Russians will quickly gain some territory in the Kharkov direction. So much so that Kharkov itself will come under threat once more, but it is unlikely that the Russians would want to make a full scale assault on this huge city. Lviv on the other hand will probably be flattened when the time comes.
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Hole wrote:
Understatement of the day.
I did say MORE than 10:1
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“The West is in panic, it has no idea what to do,” he concluded.
The only way to stop them is negotiate a surrender, but that is the only thing not on the table it seems...
By the way, just take a look at the fragmentation pattern.
It is some ... 300-400m radius?
Yes, I noticed that... not a huge fire ball but a very very dense fragmentation pattern that seems to have a rather large radius...
Kiev is a distraction, Odessa is what matters
Zelensky wasn't so brave when Russian forces were near Kiev... I think that foot on the throat was a good thing...
They will get closer to Kiev just to force Ukrs to divert troops from more important areas of the front
Spreading them thinner makes them easier to deal with everywhere.
According to the report, the average viewing depth was 91%.
Many of them hoping for an explosion no doubt...
Why keep they sending such crap?
You can't call them crap just because they do no harm...
Kub and Buk are somehow interoperational.
My understanding is that are compatible... BUK can use KUB missiles and vice versa but performance limitations are accrued with the inferior missile or using the newer missile as part of the older system.
Tying up 150,000 cannon fodder in Kiev will prevent the Nazis from sending reinforcements to Odessa
I suspect the effort needed to stop the two advances towards Kiev and Odessa will destroy what is left of the functioning Orc army and it will collapse or surrender...
And if not it will be pushed back anyway.
Russia didn't want this bloody fratricidal war (NATO did) but will sure as hell finish it, and will finish it to their satisfaction.
Because doing a half arsed job means getting to do it again in 5-10 years time and it will be even more bloody then because you can't expect the west to keep making the same mistakes so if they get more things right it will end up damaging Russia more.
Better to sort it all out now.
It seems more people are being allowed to speak out.... this is from a former Boris Johnson advisor:
Ukraine a ‘corrupt s**thole’ – ex-Boris Johnson adviser
Backing Kiev pushed Russia and China into an alliance, Dominic Cummings has said
The UK and its allies got tricked into backing a “corrupt mafia state” in Ukraine and getting into a war of attrition against a Moscow-Beijing partnership, Dominic Cummings has said in an interview.
The longtime Tory political strategist led the Vote Leave campaign for Brexit and was one of the key aides to then-PM Boris Johnson until resigning in November 2020.
“We should have never got into the whole stupid situation,” Cummings told the outlet I News in an interview published on Wednesday, commenting on London’s full-throated support for Kiev. He also described Ukraine as a “corrupt s**thole that doesn’t matter at all.”
“This is not a replay of 1940 with the pumpkin [Ukrainian President Vladimir] Zelensky as the Churchillian underdog,” he added. “This whole Ukrainian corrupt mafia state has basically conned us all and we’re all going to get f**ked as a consequence.”
Western sanctions have been “more of a disaster” for the EU than for Russia, driving up the cost of living while pushing Moscow and Beijing closer together, according to Cummings. All the West managed to do is get into a war of attrition with Russia, “who we pushed into an alliance with the world’s biggest manufacturing power.”
Cummings also addressed the argument that Russian President Vladimir Putin needed to be “taught a lesson” about invading neighbors.
“The lesson we’ve taught Putin is that we’re a bunch of total f**king jokers,” he said. “I mean, Putin already knew that before the war. But this has emphasized it and broadcast it to the entire world, what a bunch of clowns we are,” he added.
Between the sanctions regime and the US trying to seize frozen Russian assets, the West is encouraging the emergence of alternative global financial systems, he explained.
Cummings slammed Johnson – with whom he is no longer on speaking terms – for using the Ukraine conflict for “acting out his Churchillian fantasies,” as well as the Parliament, which “swallowed all of his total bulls**t on Ukraine and actually took it seriously.”
Johnson was the key figure in getting Kiev to reject a peace deal with Russia in April 2022, according to the top Ukrainian negotiator, as well as Ukrainian media.
The former PM denied his role in scuttling the talks, calling the account “total nonsense and Russian propaganda.” However, he confirmed that he told Zelensky the UK would back him “a thousand percent” and that any deal with Moscow would be bad.
Source.
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