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    Post  Mir Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:12 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Is this unusual? Hitting two targets at almost the same time.


    Most likely the result of going through the Iskander shredder. Maybe something like a truck's fuel tank was hit by some red hot pellets?

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    Post  Mir Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:16 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    GarryB wrote:

    That is OK... laser the little buggers anyway...


    Try to laser every single sparrow out there Laughing

    Sally or Alexandra with her shotgun should do! Laughing

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:02 pm

    Banderastan wants to be mastermind od every single shit happening on 17 mln K2 🤣 Worked just fine in Sahel I would say 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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    Post  Airbornewolf Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:59 pm

    for the ones that missed out on the key vids from Kursk, here is a small summary.

    18+! Ukrainian incursion into Kursk, Russia

    NSFW for Ukrainian KIA's.

    https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/Ukrainian-incursion-into-Kursk,-Russia:7

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    Post  lyle6 Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:25 pm

    franco wrote:Russian MoD reporting 16,155 Ukrainian casualties over the past 7 days.  
    Don`t forget the NAFO faggot. Twisted Evil

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    Post  Sujoy Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:26 pm

    The U.S has probably realised that they need more low cost weapons if they have to fight against a near peer adversary like Russia. Perhaps that's why they are investing in weapons like QUICKSINK which will probably be used to compel the adversary to empty their SAMs before they can launch their long range more expensive missiles like the AGM-158C LRASM

    https://afresearchlab.com/technology/quicksink/
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    Post  GarryB Sat Aug 24, 2024 8:53 am

    Off Topic stuff moved here.
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    Post  ALAMO Sat Aug 24, 2024 9:14 am

    Sujoy wrote:The U.S has probably realised that they need more low cost weapons if they have to fight against a near peer adversary like Russia.

    It is impossible, at multiple levels.
    A skilled worker in the west earns about 5k euro a month.
    I would say it is about same in the US.
    Every single wire, pipe, chip, lens, or battery - is being made by the people whose payment is nominally at least twice the size of Russian or Chinese. And ten times the size of Korea or Iran.
    Every single bullet is being produced by a company that is privately owned, and focused on one thing only - income.
    Every single company that makes this every single bullet, is being owned by a capital that has both power and influence. They won't make a thing cheap, if can push the agenda of selling expensive. And force the governments to pay for it, even at the cost of debt emission.

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    Post  Arrow Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:59 am

    China already has a very impressive aircraft production. They have reportedly already produced over 200 to 300 J 20, which is an impressive number. But how much truth is there in that? Rolling Eyes
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    Post  Sujoy Sat Aug 24, 2024 12:14 pm

    ALAMO wrote: It is impossible, at multiple levels.
    A skilled worker in the west earns about 5k euro a month.
    I would say it is about same in the US.
    Every single wire, pipe, chip, lens, or battery - is being made by the people whose payment is nominally at least twice the size of Russian or Chinese. And ten times the size of Korea or Iran.
    Every single bullet is being produced by a company that is privately owned, and focused on one thing only - income.
    Every single company that makes this every single bullet, is being owned by a capital that has both power and influence. They won't make a thing cheap, if can push the agenda of selling expensive. And force the governments to pay for it, even at the cost of debt emission.
     While it's true that Western labour costs are higher, economies of scale and specialization can offset these costs. Large-scale production facilities in the US are now leveraging automation, standardized processes, and bulk material purchases to reduce overall unit costs. Specializing in specific weapon components is leading to greater efficiency and lower production costs.

    The weapons manufacturing process in the US has been almost entirely automated. Manufacturing techniques like 3D printing/additive manufacturing is now reducing production time and costs especially for complex components.

    Perhaps an area of concern for them is the regular supply of critical raw materials because most of it comes from China.
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    Post  franco Sat Aug 24, 2024 1:07 pm

    As a result of the negotiation process, 115 Russian servicemen captured in the Kursk region were returned from the territory controlled by the Kiev regime.

    In return, 115 prisoners of war of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were transferred.

    Currently, all Russian servicemen are in the territory of the Republic of Belarus, where they are provided with the necessary psychological and medical assistance, as well as the opportunity to contact relatives.

    All released servicemen will be taken to the Russian Federation for treatment and rehabilitation in medical institutions of the Russian Ministry of Defense.

    Upon the return of Russian servicemen from captivity, the United Arab Emirates provided humanitarian mediation efforts.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12526557@egNews

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    Post  franco Sat Aug 24, 2024 1:38 pm

    Russian MoD reporting 2480 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours including...

    Summary of the Russian Ministry of Defense on the progress of repelling the attempted invasion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into the territory of the Russian Federation (as of August 24, 2024)

    The Armed Forces continue to repel the attempted invasion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into the territory of the Russian Federation.

    Units of the North group of forces, with the support of army aviation and artillery fire, repelled attacks by enemy assault groups in the direction of the settlements of Borki, Sleeping, Cherkassk Porechnoye and Malaya Loknya during the day.

    Attempts of attacks in the direction of Komarovka, Kremyanoye were thwarted. As a result, the enemy lost more than 60 people killed and wounded. In addition, a tank, 7 armored combat vehicles and two cars were destroyed. Ten servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered.

    Reconnaissance and search operations are continuing to identify and destroy enemy sabotage groups in the forests that tried to penetrate deep into Russian territory.

    Air strikes, artillery fire and military actions defeated concentrations of manpower and equipment of the 22nd, 61st and 115th mechanized, 82nd airborne assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as the 1st brigade of the National Guard in the areas of settlements: Apanasovka, Vishnevka, Borki, Krasnooktyabrsky, Kruglenke, Mikhaylovka, Lyubimovka, Malaya Loknya, Plekhovo, Snagost and Yuzhny.

    Tactical air strikes were carried out on the areas of concentration of personnel and military equipment of the reserves of the 41st, 54th and 61st mechanized, 82nd airborne assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 103rd, 106th, 119th and 129th air defense brigades in the Sumy region, as well as 1- the 17th and 17th brigades of the National Guard in the areas of the settlements of Atinskoye, Glukhov, Druzhba Zhuravka, Zapselye, Kalinov, Novaya Sloboda, Pervomaiske, Pavlovka, Sadki, Svessa, Sumy, Syrovatka, Chuikovka and Yampol.

    During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to more than 360 military personnel and 29 armored vehicles, including: two tanks, three infantry fighting vehicles, two armored personnel carriers, 22 armored combat vehicles, as well as two artillery pieces, 12 vehicles, the Bukovel-AD electronic warfare station and a counter-battery radar station.

    In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost: more than 5,500 soldiers, 71 tanks, 30 infantry fighting vehicles, 57 armored personnel carriers, 372 armored combat vehicles, 170 vehicles, 36 artillery pieces, five anti-aircraft missile systems, 11 multiple rocket launchers, including three MLRS HIMARS and one MLRS, 7 electronic warfare stations, a counter-battery radar, four units of engineering equipment, including two engineering barrage vehicles and one UR-77 mine clearance unit.

    The operation to destroy the AFU formations continues.

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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:16 pm

    ALAMO wrote:They won't make a thing cheap, if can push the agenda of selling expensive. And force the governments to pay for it, even at the cost of debt emission.

    The USA will enforce Ukrainian people to pay that debt. Like other nations that have been too unlucky to fell under control of puppet governments installed by USA "color revolutions".
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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:52 pm

    The front is already broken through and you are standing far behind the front. It would now only be necessary to continue the offensive quickly as far west as the great river. This would make it possible to move the entire southern front to the north and significantly increase the distance to the Crimea without having a larger front.
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    Post  franco Sat Aug 24, 2024 5:55 pm

    According to this source the rumored "secret talks" between Russia and Ukraine was a deal to "stop strikes on energy infrastructures" from both sides.

    https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1827337710450708779

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    Post  mnztr Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:33 pm

    Sujoy wrote:
    ALAMO wrote: It is impossible, at multiple levels.
    A skilled worker in the west earns about 5k euro a month.
    I would say it is about same in the US.
    Every single wire, pipe, chip, lens, or battery - is being made by the people whose payment is nominally at least twice the size of Russian or Chinese. And ten times the size of Korea or Iran.
    Every single bullet is being produced by a company that is privately owned, and focused on one thing only - income.
    Every single company that makes this every single bullet, is being owned by a capital that has both power and influence. They won't make a thing cheap, if can push the agenda of selling expensive. And force the governments to pay for it, even at the cost of debt emission.
     While it's true that Western labour costs are higher, economies of scale and specialization can offset these costs. Large-scale production facilities in the US are now leveraging automation, standardized processes, and bulk material purchases to reduce overall unit costs. Specializing in specific weapon components is leading to greater efficiency and lower production costs.

    The weapons manufacturing process in the US has been almost entirely automated. Manufacturing techniques like 3D printing/additive manufacturing is now reducing production time and costs especially for complex components.

    Perhaps an area of concern for them is the regular supply of critical raw materials because most of it comes from China.


    This is a myth, not everything can be automated. I think armored vehicle still are quite labour intensive. Naval shipyards are very labour intensive, aircraft factories as well. Even ammo production has people. Maybe when Elon Musk delivers his humaoid androids. Another reason that US production is so inefficent is they production must be split over many states so it can get funding approval, so the supply chain stretches over thousands of miles, and hundreds of towns, and it must all come together at the final assembly line with everything that can go wrong in the middle.


    Posting conversations after repeated warnings to all not to do this and two day bans for three people already, but still I am not heard it seems. 2 day ban.

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:56 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:

    The USA will enforce Ukrainian people to pay that debt. Like other nations that have been too unlucky to fell under control of puppet governments installed by USA "color revolutions".

    How exactly will they get money from a country that will not exist?

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    Post  Arrow Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:31 pm

    How exactly will they get money from a country that will not exist? wrote:

    Normally it will take over natural resources, of which there are many in Ukraine. They have already taken over their fields, etc.
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    Post  Hole Sat Aug 24, 2024 9:09 pm

    "stop strikes on energy infrastructures" 
    Smells like another fake story from western sources.
    Why should Russia bother?
    The Banderites managed to damage maybe 0,1 per mille of Russias energy infrastructure.
    And you can´t trust them.

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    Post  Regular Sat Aug 24, 2024 9:24 pm

    For those who still like numbers


    Ghost of Omsk on Twitter made up to date list that is worth checking. It is being updated daily

    https://x.com/VostokPrizrak/status/1827420749994340676

    Google docs:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mpS3uO9smz5gTsT-1eWhmkAabesfoims7C_1DyVYoLY/edit?gid=0#gid=0

    A snippet of whole losses

    All Ukrainian losses Aug 2024 Kursk incursion
    3 AD Systems
    5 Artillery Systems
    50 MRAPS
    10 Tanks
    45 IFV
    10 Civ Vehicles
    3 MLRS Systems
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    Post  ALAMO Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:11 pm

    The-thing-next-door wrote:
    How exactly will they get money from a country that will not exist?

    The same old-fashioned way.
    Stealing gold reserves.
    Deducting liabilities.
    Suing for partial ownership - an selling the outcome to harvesters they own, making leverage.
    It's an old story, well told.
    As far as I remember, Ukro gold has already been "secured" back in 2015 being "deposited" in NY.
    But - how unusual - midlanded in Frankfurt, and had no ticket for more flying ...
    And - how surprisingly - it was an outcome of Bundestag ordered revision of Germany-owned gold deposits in US ...
    It turned out that ... there might be ... some ... gold ... somewhere ... just shut the fuk up and don't spoil the game Laughing

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:30 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:....

    The USA will enforce Ukrainian people to pay that debt. Like other nations that have been too unlucky to fell under control of puppet governments installed by USA "color revolutions".

    Who gives a fúck?

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