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    Post  nomadski Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:09 pm


    Yes Russia can do more , much more . As Putin said " ....Russia hasn't done ANYTHING yet ! " NATO is doing it's utmost , it's best . More long range weapons will come . More attacks inside Russia . But as I said before , the harder the Russians are hit , the better for them , and the worst for their enemy ! Why are Russians advancing now ? Anything to do with feeling angry or threatened over Kursk ? It may be a good idea to leave this " wound , " open , for more than the simple reason that it acts as a fisherman's Crab-trap , not retrieved , fishing forever in the depths . It will be a reminder of the threat faced by Russia , an existential threat , necessitating a move away from the SMO thinking into a war thinking . No more " war by agreement ." Russia could have done these Rocket attacks much earlier ( few were done early on ) .They had the intelligence and the weapons . In retrospect " The early bird catches the worm . " Russia can repair , Ukr/ NATO , can not , will not . It is necessary to wage a " war , " and reach the Polish border asap . It will be necessary for Russia to be present in all regions , some permanently in the East , and some temporarily ( say 20 to 30 years or one generation ) in the West of Ukraine . A period of time needed to educate and denazify . Even if the Kiev regime will fall soon .


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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:21 pm

    JohninMK wrote:It just gets worse

     Poor medicine as a cause of great losses in Poltava

    I care not how these maggot bastards die, only that they do, and in ever-increasing numbers. Twisted Evil

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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:56 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:Reeducate them through labor, 10 to 25 years worth of education.

    I expect Western "social activists" and "NGOs" will step in and blah blah bleh about human rights violation against convicted criminals.

    Although these people are completely silent about the inhuman treatment of political dissidents in their own home.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Thu Sep 05, 2024 5:16 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    ucmvulcan wrote:Reeducate them through labor, 10 to 25 years worth of education.

    I expect Western "social activists" and "NGOs" will step in and blah blah bleh about human rights violation against convicted criminals.

    Although these people are completely silent about the inhuman treatment of political dissidents in their own home.

    There are very few western NGOs who aren't whores for US and EU oligarchs and their banking, military, and foreign policy. So who cares what they'd say?

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:07 pm

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    What "vulnerable" minors?

    This is EXACTLY the age group that needs to be deleted from the Ukrainian reproductive cycle in order for Russia to permanently win this war

    Hopefully rest of their age group will soo head for mobilization vans and then the frontline for proper disposal

    If people can be brainwashed to admire/ worship NATO, then perhaps there is a similar method to re-brainwash them to make them worship Russia instead.  ....

    Suuuure....  Rolling Eyes

    Because it worked out so great before

    They were Nazis during WW2 when they were winning and when were later coddled by Red Army

    Today they are getting slaughtered and STILL they insist on being Nazis

    There's no fixing that and only retards would even think of trying it

    Turn them all into fertilizer and call it a day, this shit has already been dragging on nearly a century longer than it should have


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    Post  Sujoy Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:19 pm

    GarryB wrote:In the west he is perceived as weak... interesting that in the rest of the world he is respected.
    He was a sergent in the British Army from where he was recruited by MI5. He is respected in certain countries because of British propaganda. He was just another gujarati crook.

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    Post  Arrow Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:20 pm

    Putin is asking for peace again, and after Kursk he did not want any negotiations Laughing
    Although it is known that this is aimed towards the global south.
    Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that China, India and Brazil could mediate in talks between Russia and Ukraine, Reuters reported.

    According to Putin, the talks could be based on a preliminary agreement between Russia and Ukraine reached in Istanbul in the first weeks of the war in 2022.

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    Post  sepheronx Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:38 pm

    You and Reuters are misconstrueding what he said.


    We have never refused to negotiate, but only on the basis of the Istanbul documents - Putin

    The Russian President recalled that in the past, parameters of a possible peace agreement were practically reached between Russia and Ukraine with the mediation of Turkey and Erdogan. They were even endorsed by a representative of the Verkhovna Rada.

    However, after the intervention of the West, the work on the agreements was reduced to nothing: "They were given the order to fight to the last Ukrainian." The Russian President noted that the elites of the USA and some European countries had a desire to achieve Russia's defeat, they thought that "they would bring us to our knees and dismember us."

    https://t.me/readovkanews/86242

    He never said anything of the sort that he is ready for negotiations.

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    Post  Arrow Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:47 pm

    It looks like Ukraine will acquire or already has another Wunderwaffe, this time JASSM. Although if they receive an ER version with a range of almost 1000 km, it will be a threat even to Moscow. This is the last thing NATO can give Ukraine. Russian AD will once again have many targets for training.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:09 pm

    Arrow wrote:It looks like Ukraine will acquire or already has another Wunderwaffe, this time JASSM. Although if they receive an ER version with a range of almost 1000 km, it will be a threat even to Moscow. This is the last thing NATO can give Ukraine. Russian AD will once again have many targets for training.
    Ah but the US claims that it is so stealthy that RuAD will never be able to intercept them. Plus they have up to 2000 early versions about to go out out date that they could ship. If you want a good laugh on US delusion try reading, you won't get all the way through, https://www.twz.com/air/above-all-else-jassm-would-give-ukraine-a-steady-supply-of-cruise-missiles

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    Post  Arrow Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:16 pm

    Stealth JASSM is on the level of Storm Shadow or worse. Russian AD copes very well with the latter despite very low RCS Laughing

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    Post  GarryB Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:34 pm

    Logically, with such losses, the army should have collapsed. Meanwhile, there is no possibility of Ukraine capitulating in the foreseeable future. I don't know, maybe it will happen soon, but there is no indication of that.

    Right up until Russia invaded the Ukraine there was no way at all that Putin would start a war.

    Too much hollywood bullshit sadly... when someone is hanging from a rope over the edge of a cliff and the 7 strand rope creaks and groans and one strand snaps it is to heighten tension of course... and then while the person on the rope is calling for help a second strand breaks and as help approaches a third and a fourth strand breaks and with the three remaining strands the rescuer either saves the day or the victim falls to their death, but that last strand will often hold the weight longer than the original 7 strands could even though those 7 strands included that last super strand that lasted a few minutes for maximum tension and maximum drama.

    Reality is not like that... ropes snap with very little warning and normally all at once.

    For the last 3 years strands have snapped but the fibres around them held and worked together to make sure the one strand that failed was the only one and that the remaining strands understood you get shot if you break here.

    As the truth starts to become more obvious and more widespread they might see reason, but equally they have been trained to see the Russians as the enemy and think fighting to the death is their only option.

    Well the western world is all about free choice isn't it?

    When western support collapses their options will massively shrink down to only a couple of unpleasant choices... they might still choose death... depending on what they have already done it might actually be their best option.

    It got to the point that the MRAP program was so large it ate so much of the US Army procurement budget that R&D for their next gen AFVs was pretty much stopped while mechanized formations were axed left and right.

    In the very few occasions they withdrew from anywhere they tended to leave their MRAPS behind because it is simply not cost effective to ship them back to the US for repairs and storage to then ship it out to a new deployment...


    If people can be brainwashed to admire/ worship NATO, then perhaps there is a similar method to re-brainwash them to make them worship Russia instead.

    Russia does not need these idiots to worship them. But respect is something everyone should have for every country...

    According to Putin, the talks could be based on a preliminary agreement between Russia and Ukraine reached in Istanbul in the first weeks of the war in 2022.

    So Russias conditions have not changed... and Kievs position is rather worse... you would think they would see a good option, but of course now the four regions that had referendums after the Istanbul agreement and decided to join the RF and were accepted by the RF as new Russian members means they wont be going back to Kiev rule at all.

    It looks like Ukraine will acquire or already has another Wunderwaffe, this time JASSM. Although if they receive an ER version with a range of almost 1000 km, it will be a threat even to Moscow. This is the last thing NATO can give Ukraine. Russian AD will once again have many targets for training.

    ATACMS is ruined and Excalibr has been rendered totally useless because they went up against Real Russian forces and solutions and tactics were found to defeat them. JASSM is just another acronym that will be defeated, and if they do allow Kiev to use such weapons then the enemies of the west will be allowed to buy all sorts of new stuff... Iran flying Su-57s? North Korea joining the Su-75 programme and replacing their current air fleet with 500 Su-75s in 10 years time?

    TOPOLS based in Venezuela?

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:07 pm

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    Russian Strike on MGM-140 ATACMS Service Facility in Odessa Region**

    On September 4, 2024, around 7:40 PM, Russian Armed Forces struck a service and storage point for MGM-140 ATACMS missiles located at an agricultural facility in **Gribovka** (Odessa region). According to preliminary reports, the strike was carried out using the "Iskander-M" tactical missile system, resulting in a large fire.

    Coordinates: 46.2122891, 30.5589109

    🔻 The enemy, together with Western military instructors, had set up a service and storage point for long-range precision ATACMS missiles. These missiles pose a significant threat due to their 300 km range, capable of hitting strategic targets at great distances. Ukraine has used them multiple times to attack targets in Crimea, making this facility a critical target for neutralization.

    🔻 Following the strike on the ATACMS facility, NATO's aerial reconnaissance activities have intensified. Early this morning, long-range radar detection aircraft were observed over the Black Sea and near Russia's southern borders. These planes, often used to monitor large areas and coordinate attacks in real-time, signal increased NATO involvement.

    📌 The presence of NATO reconnaissance near Russian borders once again confirms the West's direct involvement in planning and coordinating attacks on Russian territory.

    Source: https://t.me/don_partizan/5

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:09 pm

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    The ideal Restoration of Sovereign Russian territories.
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #60 - Page 26 9xqbf510

    This map is missing a few major territories such as alaska. I would say that they should also take atleast the northern third of the us as a punitive measure.
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:17 pm

    Wonder if the railway is still operating, if so a couple more impacts and that would be blocked, so assume it isn't so close to the front.

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    A report on the strike on Ukraine's logistics infrastructure by Donbass Partisan:

    Today, September 5, 2024, around 6:00 AM, Russian forces struck an important bridge at the exit of **Pokrovsk** (Krasnoarmeysk) in the direction of **Pavlograd**, along the E-50 highway.

    Coordinates: 48.288299, 37.142886

    🟠 This route plays a key role in the logistics of Kiev Junta forces (KJF), facilitating the transfer of equipment, weapons, and personnel to the **Pokrovsk** section of the front. The bridge, as part of this infrastructure, is a strategic asset, and its damage significantly complicates the supply lines of KJF units.

    📌 Considering the active combat in the **Pokrovsk** area, the strike on this bridge demonstrates the intention of Russian forces to disrupt the logistics chains of KJF, which could significantly slow down the reinforcement of their forces.

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    Last night, the Russian Aerospace Forces carried out a massive strike on enemy positions near the settlement of Drobyshevo (DPR). According to local residents, a large fire broke out following the strikes, accompanied by multiple secondary explosions.

    🔻 Additionally, it should be noted that recently there have been significant fires in the forest area of “Svyatye Gory,” often accompanied by the sounds of explosions. Local residents have also observed burned enemy equipment being transported from the area towards Kharkov.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:31 pm

    Absolutely nothing to do with Poltava Laughing or Ukraine at all and I'm sure that the manslaughter was very intentional.

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    It looks like the Russians may have hit the jackpot in Poltava - as far as taking out important Westerners is concerned!
    I wonder how many other important Westerners will be found to have 'died' in unclear circumstances over the next few days?

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    How about this for Medevac panic in NATO yesterday

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    Immediately after the massive strike by the Russian Aerospace Forces on Ukraine, US Army Lt. Col. Joshua Kamara was killed in Poland. He was 45 years old. He is reported to have died at a US Army military camp in Poznań. Kamara was awarded the Legion of Honor, the Bronze Star, the Medal of Merit, and other awards.


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    Post  Firebird Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:48 pm

    PhSt wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    What "vulnerable" minors?

    This is EXACTLY the age group that needs to be deleted from the Ukrainian reproductive cycle in order for Russia to permanently win this war

    Hopefully rest of their age group will soo head for mobilization vans and then the frontline for proper disposal


    If people can be brainwashed to admire/ worship NATO, then perhaps there is a similar method to re-brainwash them to make them worship Russia instead. I believe today is the right time for Russia to experiment with these kinds of mind conditioning and brainwashing techniques, so by the time all of Ukraine is liberated and reincorporated back into Russia, there will be more available data for Russia to tap into to improve its brainwashing techniques when it turns its attention to liberating Central Asia, South Caucasus, the Baltics, and Zelënaya zemlya (Finland).

    I think the starting point needs to be as much of the Pukraine as is realistic. (Maybe some becomes a Russian protectorate if not part of the Ru Fed). Then there is Belarus which shouldn't be too hard after Lukas.

    Also, I think Russian should think of Kazakstan. Huge area, small population and good climate.
    In 1991, staggeringly Kazakstan was still majority non Kazak and about 45% RUssian.
    Even the Kazak govt said in 2010 or so "our problem is that we are considered a Stan".
    Kazakstan didn't even want to leave the USSR! Unlike the 3 twats in charge of Bel, Ukr and Ru SSRs.
    And of course N Kazakstan was given away to another SSR by Krushchev in the 1950s with no authority to do so.

    A Russia consisting of Russia, most of the Pukraine, Belarus and a good chunk of Kazakstan would be a good short term reformation of the Russian World. My view is that it will come down to various factors including birth rates, politics, prosperity and desire to fix it all. I will post on the Ru popln thread.


    The ideal Restoration of Sovereign Russian territories.
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:01 pm

    The implications grow with the more we hear. With the loss of vital skilled and about to be skilled operators in technical warfare this looks increasingly like it could be the most important strategic strike in the SMO. The stupidity of a gathering like this in a time of war will go into the history books, added to the name Poltava already in them.

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    Post  franco Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:36 pm

    NOTE: Another angle of the Kursk operations not fully appreciated is that the Ukrainians have moved vast amounts of troops into the Sumy Region in support of their operations in Kursk. The Russians daily get to hit these multiple targets using Aviation and Rocket assets.

    The Russian army attacked the reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) in the areas of 16 settlements in the Sumy region. This was reported by the Russian Defense Ministry on September 5.

    It is specified that the strikes were carried out using operational-tactical aviation, as well as missile forces.

    "Operational-tactical aviation and missile forces in Sumy Oblast carried out strikes on areas where personnel and military equipment of the reserves of the 21st, 22nd and 115th mechanized, 80th, 82nd and 95th airborne assault, 92nd assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the 1st and 17th brigades of the National Guard, as well as the 103rd, 106th and 129th territorial defense brigades were concentrated <…>," the department's statement reads.

    Russian troops defeated the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the areas of the populated areas of Belopolye, Boyaro-Lezhachi, Vorozhba, Gritsenkovo, Glukhov, Glybnoe, Kruzhok, Linovo, Miropolye, Orlovka, Obody, Pisarevka, Sumy, Starye Virki, Yunakovka and Yampol.

    https://iz-ru.translate.goog/1754334/2024-09-05/vs-rf-nanesli-udar-po-rezervam-vsu-v-raionakh-16-naselennykh-punktov-kurskoi-oblasti?main_click&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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    Post  franco Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:47 pm

    Russian MoD reporting 2455 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours including...

    During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces amounted to 370 military personnel and 17 armored vehicles, including: two infantry fighting vehicles, two armored personnel carriers and 13 armored combat vehicles, as well as two artillery pieces, two MLRS M270 MLRS launchers made in the USA, an electronic warfare station and 12 vehicles.

    In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost more than 10100 soldiers, 81 tanks, 41 infantry fighting vehicles, 72 armored personnel carriers, 589 armored combat vehicles, 325 vehicles, 74 artillery pieces, 24 multiple rocket launchers, including seven MLRS M142 HIMARS and five M270 MLRS manufactured by the United States, eight anti-aircraft missile launchers, two transport-loading vehicles, 17 electronic warfare stations, seven counter-battery radars, two air defense radars, eight units of engineering equipment, including two engineering barrier vehicles and one UR-77 mine clearance unit.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12528043@egNews

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:59 pm

    nomadski wrote:
    Yes Russia can do more , much more . As Putin said " ....Russia hasn't done ANYTHING yet !
    But why wait this long? Why all the restraint and turning the other cheek?

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:19 am

    JohninMK wrote:The implications grow with the more we hear. With the loss of vital skilled and about to be skilled operators in technical warfare this looks increasingly like it could be the most important strategic strike in the SMO. The stupidity of a gathering like this in a time of war will go into the history books, added to the name Poltava already in them.

    According to some leakages made by Bezhula, they were gathered in formations in front of the building Shocked

    Edit : Ch-101 arrivals on Lvov, presumably this morning.

    https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/122115

    You can see the descending trajectory and flare release at the final approach.

    A giant column of smoke probably after striking a military train in Slavyansk.
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    Post  lyle6 Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:35 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:The implications grow with the more we hear. With the loss of vital skilled and about to be skilled operators in technical warfare this looks increasingly like it could be the most important strategic strike in the SMO. The stupidity of a gathering like this in a time of war will go into the history books, added to the name Poltava already in them.

    According to some leakages made by Bezhula, they were gathered in formations in front of the building Shocked
    The Swedes thought they are untouchable. One of the curious little unwritten rules of the road was both sides refused to intentionally target each other's MIC corpos - just one of the privileges that comes with working in the game. But little did they know that control of the Iskander system was passed over to frontline commanders who just couldn't be bothered to give a ****. Twisted Evil

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:39 am

    An interesting thing is that in one of the vids from hospital, I clearly hear Polish in the background.
    The only question is, if those are medical personnel being heard or other scratch
    They are saying the phrase "Polish language" with a clear Polish accent, but the context can't be figured out.
    Like someone is hearing a different language and confirms which is it.

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    Post  Mir Fri Sep 06, 2024 1:34 am

    lyle6 wrote:
    The Swedes thought they are untouchable.

    Small price to pay for giving up their "neutrality" (officially) Laughing

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