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    Post  Arrow Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:01 pm

    Currently, Russia itself as a superpower is on more solid and strong foundations than the USSR. They only lack the demographics of the USSR, but they will make up for that. They will gather as many ethnic Russians as possible from the former republics, including Ukraine, and they will reach perhaps around 160-170 million.

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    Post  Mir Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:10 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    That "superpower" collapsed like a overloaded public toilet and had to crawl on it's knees before US hegemony and beg for food

    Putin himself was in charge of distributing expired chicken legs to the starving gopniks

    Gorby was a gullible fool and Yeltsin a drunk - what did you expect dunno

    Dissolving the USSR was a colossal mistake and today we can see the fruits of that stupidity with all the regime changes and endless wars perpetrated by the US. US hegemony is about to be stopped in it's tracks.

    Welcome to the multi-polar world! russia

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    Post  franco Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:15 pm

    Russian MoD reporting 2385 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours. As per normal this does not include the large missile or air strikes in the rear areas.

    During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces amounted to 450 soldiers and 17 armored vehicles, including a tank, an infantry fighting vehicle and 15 armored combat vehicles, 40 vehicles, four artillery pieces, including: three Caesar self-propelled guns made in France and one M777 made in the United States, as well as two multiple rocket launchers manufactured in the USA, including: one M142 HIMARS and one M270 MLRS.

    In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost more than 9700 servicemen, 81 tanks, 39 infantry fighting vehicles, 70 armored personnel carriers, 576 armored combat vehicles, 313 vehicles, 72 artillery pieces, 22 multiple rocket launchers, including seven HIMARS MLRS and three MLRS, eight anti-aircraft missile launchers complexes, two transport-charging vehicles, 17 electronic warfare stations, seven counter-battery radars, two air defense radars, eight units of engineering equipment, including two engineering barrage vehicles and one UR-77 mine clearance unit.

    The operation to destroy the AFU formations continues.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12527895@egNews

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    Post  Arrow Wed Sep 04, 2024 7:18 pm

    The attack on Pokrovsk has slowed down. Ukraine has moved reinforcements. The trench war will begin again. It will be interesting to see if the Russians will be able to take over at least the entire Donbas in the next three years.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Sep 04, 2024 7:29 pm

    It looks like the last two days were unprecedented when it cames for human losses of the ukrs.
    It was not only a massive Poltava strike, but multiple other carried on.
    The hotel in Krivy Rog was demolished.
    A wing os State University in Sumy became an end receiver of KAB.
    There are about five cases of real massive strikes on concentration points.
    I guess they have lost up to 2k men in those strikes only ...

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    Post  Arrow Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:02 pm

    Yes, Ukraine is losing a lot of people every day. It's hard for me to believe that after taking such a huge number of blows, despite the support of the entire West, they haven't fallen apart yet. Logically, with such losses, the army should have collapsed. Meanwhile, there is no possibility of Ukraine capitulating in the foreseeable future. I don't know, maybe it will happen soon, but there is no indication of that. Will Russia have to slowly conquer more towns and villages over the next few years? It is a mystery where the line between Ukraine's collapse and unconditional surrender runs. When the army will fall apart. For now, I think that the road to that is long.
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    Post  LMFS Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:12 pm

    Arrow wrote:The attack on Pokrovsk has slowed down. Ukraine has moved reinforcements. The trench war will begin again. It will be interesting to see if the Russians will be able to take over at least the entire Donbas in the next three years.

    Sometimes I dont know if you are kidding us or you live in another planet Rolling Eyes

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Sep 04, 2024 9:08 pm

    He rises and falls 😈🤣

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Sep 04, 2024 9:57 pm

    Don't fancy her life expectancy. 215 dead!!! and 340 wounded. What a hit What a Face It must have seriouis ramifications all across the UA military. Basically a disaster. Senior heads should roll, literally.




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    🇷🇺🇺🇦 The Ministry of Defense commented on yesterday's missile strike on Poltava and today's attack on Lviv:
    On September 3, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out a high-precision strike on the 179th Joint Training Center of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the city of Poltava, where, under the guidance of foreign instructors, specialists in communications, electronic warfare from all formations and military units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, as well as operators of unmanned aerial vehicles participating in strikes on civilian targets on the territory of the Russian Federation, were trained.

    This morning, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out a group strike with long-range high-precision weapons, including hypersonic aeroballistic systems "Dagger" and strike unmanned aerial vehicles on enterprises of the defense industry complex of Ukraine, located in the city of Lviv, where the production and repair of electronic components of aircraft and missile weapons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was carried out. In the context of the report about Lviv, it can be assumed that the target was not only the railway infrastructure, the destruction of which became known, but also the Lviv aircraft repair plant, which, although a missile strike was carried out at the very beginning of the SVO in 2022, however, after this facility disappeared from sight.

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    Post  lyle6 Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:20 pm

    America needs to be wiped off the face of the earth for unleashing lip fillers.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:39 pm

    It just gets worse

     Poor medicine as a cause of great losses in Poltava

    More and more details are emerging about yesterday's attack on the military training center in Poltava. Earlier it became known about the presence of foreign instructors at the base, and now information has been made public about how assistance was provided to the wounded immediately after their arrival.

    The situation in the first minutes was described by one of the doctors of the Hospitallers volunteer battalion:
    - the vast majority of those present did not know how to provide first aid
    - cheap Chinese medical equipment, the tourniquets of which simply did not tighten all the way and broke
    - the evacuation process was not organized, which is why in the first minutes the wounded were simply loaded on top of each other into an old truck, reducing the likelihood of their survival
    - the "young female employees with long nails" who arrived from nearby medical institutions were clearly not prepared for such a number of corpses and simply stood in a stupor
    - the employees of the State Emergency Service (analogous to our Ministry of Emergency Situations) did not even have first aid kits with them, and they were only engaged in carrying the wounded

    Based on all of the above, we can conclude that the official death toll was clearly greatly underestimated by the enemy. And most of the victims could not be saved precisely because of the unprofessional actions and low qualifications of medical workers. Many of the wounded died from blood loss, because no one could provide them with the necessary first aid.

    For us, this example of an enemy mistake is a reason to draw conclusions and be prepared for similar situations in the future. To do this, it is necessary to regularly conduct appropriate exercises with the development of practical skills in providing first aid, backing everything up with a theoretical basis. Especially in border areas, where even an ordinary passerby must be able to provide first aid.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:40 pm

    Both Ukraine's and Sweden's foreign ministers resigned after Poltava strike. Something really important was probably hit bad.

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:50 pm

    https://www.facebook.com/K01Archive/posts/pfbid0mKgQa84r5vAEu3fchnPkZuwsGajmBFMLG4MdkNJcsPcphBi6nz4Z4UhGaVtwhp34l

    Another interesting aspect of Ukraine gamble in Kursk is Ukrainian's lack of equipments. We can see that they use the light AFV such as MRAPs as troop transporters.

    Like the name of it already depicts, the MRAV is only mine resistant vehicle used in anti-ambush missions. The USA uses it in low intensity battles in the Middle East. As a results, in a conventional attack into the enemy land, people should never use MRAP-like vehicle. The suitable ones for such offensive should be the BMPs or AFVs like Stryker, or at least the MRAP versions with better equipments.

    But instead there were cases of Ukrainian MRAPs only having 12.7mm facing Russian BMPs in Kursk. We can already see what would be the inevitable results.

    A classic case of the desperate last gamble. There is a high possibility that Ukraine will exhaust all of its final reserve fund in Kursk. The offensive on the nuclear reactor has been already a failure.

    Many MRAP also have high center of mass and also high total mass, i.e. they cannot be very maneuverable in rough terrain.

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    Post  lyle6 Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:05 am

    America has bottomless stocks of MRAPs.

    They have so much of them partially because the imperial armies were mostly on colonial guard duties where the MRAP made a lot of sense, but mostly because the MIC is just raking in the cash shitting out these glorified trucks for at least half a million a pop.

    It got to the point that the MRAP program was so large it ate so much of the US Army procurement budget that R&D for their next gen AFVs was pretty much stopped while mechanized formations were axed left and right.



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    Post  The-thing-next-door Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:15 am

    JohninMK wrote:Don't fancy her life expectancy.

    I must have missed something, who are you talking about?
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:17 am

    If true, a very rapid lift up the learning curve of potential problems after joining NATO.

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    Swedish FM Billstrom resigns after Russian Iskander visited Poltava.

    Rumors are that Sweden lost the ENTIRE top management of SAAB Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C) systems.

    15 trucks evacuated dead foreign  NATO troops +officers:  600+ dead/wounded

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:19 am

    The-thing-next-door wrote:
    I must have missed something, who are you talking about?
    The life expectancy of the woman who released her video (posted in my post 609 above) of the actual numbers dead in the College. The SBU will not be amused. Probably destined for a rapid transfer to the front.


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    Post  Backman Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:24 am

    These tramps sound under 18

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:34 am

    They ran out of dark green paint, but it probably won't last anyway.

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    Post  PhSt Thu Sep 05, 2024 5:50 am

    Backman wrote:These tramps sound under 18

    At the end of the video, the interrogator asked for whom they recorded the video for, but the answer wasn't translated

    It is unfortunate how NATO is Abusing vulnerable minors like the ones in the video, perhaps these brainwashed people can still be reformed and be educated to become loyal citizens of New Russia.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:26 am

    lyle6 wrote:America needs to be wiped off the face of the earth for unleashing lip fillers.

    Destroyers of worlds...




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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:35 am

    Backman wrote:These tramps sound under 18

    "Don't look, it's private

    Bitch, you are a POW now, private has officially left the chat ages ago  lol1

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:39 am

    PhSt wrote:
    Backman wrote:These tramps sound under 18
    [https://x.com/MaimunkaNews/status/1831409256874307674?t=xOkDlu0fw7i5N6PD2IaeOw&s=19

    At the end of the video, the interrogator asked for whom they recorded the video for, but the answer wasn't translated

    It is unfortunate how NATO is Abusing vulnerable minors like the ones in the video, perhaps these brainwashed people can still be reformed and be educated to become loyal citizens of New Russia.

    What "vulnerable" minors?

    This is EXACTLY the age group that needs to be deleted from the Ukrainian reproductive cycle in order for Russia to permanently win this war

    Hopefully rest of their age group will soo head for mobilization vans and then the frontline for proper disposal



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    Post  ucmvulcan Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:47 am


    What "vulnerable" minors?

    This is EXACTLY the age group that needs to be deleted from the Ukrainian reproductive cycle in order for Russia to permanently win this war

    Hopefully rest of their age group will soo head for mobilization vans and then the frontline for proper disposal




    No, not deleted, but put to work in Russia.  They have been raised as proud Nazis? Well, Russia has lots of vast shovel ready projects that they could help on.  Reeducate them through labor, 10 to 25 years worth of education.  Don't kill them, give them proper food and shelter but use them to deepen the White Sea Canal, lay down more rail track and paved roads in Siberia and place them in barracks with lovely nazi slogans such as Arbeit Macht Frei. Make them hate that which they were taught to glorify. Work them hard 10 to 12 hours a day, give them reeducatuon for another 6 to 8 hours a day and 6 to 8 hours of rest.  Those who denounce Maidanism and Banderaism and Hitlerism get to go home in 20 years.  The rest? They work until they are too old to raise families or contribute to the Ukrainian or EU economies.

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    Post  PhSt Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:07 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    What "vulnerable" minors?

    This is EXACTLY the age group that needs to be deleted from the Ukrainian reproductive cycle in order for Russia to permanently win this war

    Hopefully rest of their age group will soo head for mobilization vans and then the frontline for proper disposal


    If people can be brainwashed to admire/ worship NATO, then perhaps there is a similar method to re-brainwash them to make them worship Russia instead. I believe today is the right time for Russia to experiment with these kinds of mind conditioning and brainwashing techniques, so by the time all of Ukraine is liberated and reincorporated back into Russia, there will be more available data for Russia to tap into to improve its brainwashing techniques when it turns its attention to liberating Central Asia, South Caucasus, the Baltics, and Zelënaya zemlya (Finland).


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