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    Post  Belisarius Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:15 pm

    It wasn't necessarily a drone. There are also rumors that the Aviabase in Ivano-Frankivsk was hit by Kinzhal.

    Our source reports that after today's night missile strike by the Russian Armed Forces on the Ukrainian Armed Forces airfield in Starokostiantyniv, Khmelnytskyi Oblast, two Ukrainian Armed Forces aircraft were damaged, one of them an F-16.

    As the source explains, the Russians used a protracted combined attack over 6-8 hours. The Ukrainian Armed Forces raised aircraft, including F-16s, to repel the attack and "save the birds", since they are an easy target at airfields. But as soon as the aircraft partially repelled the threat and landed back at the airfield after three hours in the air, "daggers" were launched at it.

    The information is being verified.

    https://t.me/legitimniy/18597

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:22 pm

    On the results of strikes by the Russian Armed Forces on facilities on the territory of the so-called Ukraine on August 26

        Just yesterday, we analyzed the consequences of the Russian massive strike on the energy infrastructure facilities of the so-called Ukraine - then it was possible to partially identify the nature of the damage to some targets.

        And now, satellite imagery has allowed us to clarify the picture a bit more. It was possible to confirm information about hits on at least four substations and one hydroelectric power plant.

        ▪It seems that at the Kyiv HPP, the Russian troops hit two out of five generator transformers, in which case the facility lost 40% of its generation capacity.

        ▪Vinnytsia 750 substation: there is a hit on a single-phase 750/330kV autotransformer, which created problems for the entire power system of the country, since this substation connects the South Ukrainian, Khmilnytskyi and Rivne NPPs.

        ▪On the territory of the Khmilnytskyi 330 substation, one open-air autotransformer was damaged, which limited the functionality of the facility.

        ▪Zhytomyr 330 substation: two open-air autotransformers came under fire at once. Their destruction led to significant problems with power supply in Zhytomyr.

        ▪At the Usatove 330 substation, the strike hit an open-air autotransformer, there are signs of a hit on the protective structure and a group of 330kV high-voltage circuit breakers was destroyed and another one was damaged.

        ❗Contrary to previously published data on the Internet, not all targets were confirmed. According to satellite imagery, the following facilities remained intact:
        ➖ Brovary 330 substation, Novokiivska 330 substation, CHP-5 and CHP-6 in the Kyiv region.
        ➖ Kryvyi Rih TPP, Pervomaiska 330 substation and Dniprovska 750 substation in the Dnipropetrovsk region.
        ➖ Trykhaty 330 substation in the Mykolaiv region.
        ➖ Pivnichna 330 substation in the Kyiv region.
        ➖ Bar 330 substation in the Vinnytsia region.

        🔻 Now it is necessary either to knock out the remaining 750/330kV autotransformers, thereby depriving part of the power units of Ukrainian nuclear power plants of the ability to transmit power to Ukraine itself and driving it only to the EU, or systematically destroy all operating TPPs, CHPs, HPPs and by no means forget about large solar and wind power plants, on which the power supply of Odesa, Kherson and Mykolaiv depends to a high degree.


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    Post  sepheronx Thu Aug 29, 2024 6:25 pm

    Is that one of the pilots mentioned as died a few days back or possibly earlier? If so, he didn't die in a crash. If it's a different pilot, then we may need able to scratch off 2 F-16's.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Aug 29, 2024 6:26 pm

    Pokrovsk advance rolls on russia

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #60 - Page 19 29augu10

    ..as Sinkovka is liberated and they breakthrough in the south russia

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #60 - Page 19 29augu11

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    Post  franco Thu Aug 29, 2024 6:32 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Is that one of the pilots mentioned as died a few days back or possibly earlier?  If so, he didn't die in a crash. If it's a different pilot, then we may need able to scratch off 2 F-16's.

    Believe one was killed on the ground during the big missile attack a few days back so 2 pilots... it has also been reported that a F-16 was destroyed or damaged on the ground at that time. That would eliminate 2 pilots and 2 aircraft.

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    Post  AlfaT8 Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:47 pm

    Can someone please explain why the Kursk situation is still even a thing?
    As in, why has Moscow not gone full scorched earth at this point?? attack
    Why TF are their even Ukro troops alive in Kursk??

    All this "controlled response" BS coming out of the Kremlin is simply being taken as WEAKNESS by the west, and possibly even the BRICS.
    Simply put, your DETERRENT will only work IF YOUR ARE WILLING TO USE THEM!!
    By not charcoaling these F'ing fools in Kursk and proving your conventional deterrents in this case, your real enemy will simply assume you either don't have such deterrence or you lack the WILL to ever use such things.

    ITS A F'ING SHIT-TEST!!!Mad
    And Moscow has failed it.

    Now all that will happen is that we will go the next step up the ladder of escalation, which will be deep strikes within Russia.

    WTF IS GOING ON???!!!!!!! No

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    Post  MMBR Thu Aug 29, 2024 8:46 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:Can someone please explain why the Kursk situation is still even a thing?
    As in, why has Moscow not gone full scorched earth at this point??  attack
    Why TF are their even Ukro troops alive in Kursk??

    All this "controlled response" BS coming out of the Kremlin is simply being taken as WEAKNESS by the west, and possibly even the BRICS.
    Simply put, your DETERRENT will only work IF YOUR ARE WILLING TO USE THEM!!
    By not charcoaling these F'ing fools in Kursk and proving your conventional deterrents in this case, your real enemy will simply assume you either don't have such deterrence or you lack the WILL to ever use such things.

    ITS A F'ING SHIT-TEST!!!Mad
    And Moscow has failed it.

    Now all that will happen is that we will go the next step up the ladder of escalation, which will be deep strikes within Russia.

    WTF IS GOING ON???!!!!!!! No

    Because it is militarily and politically in Moscow self interest to have the far right wing, Elite, motivated, experienced, trained and under 35 year old nazi soldiers in the one field with no cover.

    It removes political pressure from russia to negotiate, it knows where the nazi are, reserves are, elite and experienced troops are, it can kill them at their own pace and at minimal losses.

    There is no need to rush.

    The longer it goes on, the more men, weapons, vehicles and ammo ukraine, eu and usa feed into the kursk pocket.

    There is zero motivation to rush it, incure more losses for mere emotional pleasure.

    Take your time, do it by the book and maximise gains for your war objectives which are: denazification and demilitarisation of ukraine, eu, uk and usa.

    Also politically it might start to untie russia and allow it the freedom to possibly ask for unconditional surrender and this might be acceptable and be seen as reasonable by BRICS member states who previously placed ENOURMOUS pressure on Putin to negotiate and make peace.

    There are many ways to retaliate and hurt your enemy this is why you dont see scorched earth retaliation as you want to see.  

    Moscow can retaliate by arming Yemen with hypersonic missiles or building Norrth Korea a space program for satellites and better nuke delivery or ballistic missile submarines. There are other ways to punish an opponent.

    Russia is not doing anything that can be picked up by Western media and used to justify NATO no fly zone or intervention to save Ukraine - in my humble opinion. Such as: a counter offensive with 100,000 troops across the polish border or dropping a 10 mega tonne nuke on a city. This would not be in Moscow self interest nor would it help to complete war objective of denazification or demilitarisation.

    Moscow is wise not to take the bait, russia is big enough and strong enough to survive mosquito bites. (The civilian murders are regrettable and repugnant)

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    Post  kvs Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:17 pm

    Kursk is being managed like the rest of the Ukr front: attrition warfare without flashy big arrow moves. For some reason NATzO always expects Russia
    to throw everything it has at the Ukrs in some sort of idiotic go for broke move. They still use lack of large territorial gains as a metric for Russian failure.

    People who follow various social media accounts should be careful. Supposedly "objective" analysts are bleating out Khuyiv regime propaganda as if it was
    real. So the lack of Russian total elimination of the Ukrs in Kursk in a few days is "evidence" of Russian failure and Ukr progress.

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    Post  AlfaT8 Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:54 pm

    MMBR wrote:
    Because it is militarily and politically in Moscow self interest to have the far right wing, Elite, motivated, experienced, trained and under 35 year old nazi soldiers in the one field with no cover.
    ok, now that they have no cover, why are they still alive????????

    It removes political pressure from russia to negotiate, it knows where the nazi are, reserves are, elite and experienced troops are, it can kill them at their own pace and at minimal losses.
    I am legit shocked that there are still calls in Moscow for negotiations, The West will demand nothing less then Russia's capitulation.

    There is no need to rush.

    The longer it goes on, the more men, weapons, vehicles and ammo ukraine, eu and usa feed into the kursk pocket.

    There is zero motivation to rush it, incure more losses for mere emotional pleasure.

    Take your time, do it by the book and maximise gains for your war objectives which are: denazification and demilitarisation of ukraine, eu, uk and usa.

    This is not about pleasure, this is also not about losses anymore, with the Kursk event this has become a serious issue of deterrence.
    If you do not PROVE your deterrent capabilities, then you will simply invite more aggression.
    Without a proper demonstration of force, your enemy can only see you as weak.
    Allies and potential allies as well may see it as such.

    Also politically it might start to untie russia and allow it the freedom to possibly ask for unconditional surrender and this might be acceptable and be seen as reasonable by BRICS member states who previously placed ENOURMOUS pressure on Putin to negotiate and make peace.

    If this is true, then there are many fools among the BRICS who do not grasp the enemy true desires.
    The empire will accept nothing other than their total subjugation.

    There are many ways to retaliate and hurt your enemy this is why you dont see scorched earth retaliation as you want to see.  

    Moscow can retaliate by arming Yemen with hypersonic missiles or building Norrth Korea a space program for satellites and better nuke delivery or ballistic missile submarines. There are other ways to punish an opponent.

    Like they are arming Iran, and Iran still does sweet F all, despite the horrific situation.
    Talk is cheap, threats are cheap, COMMIT OR SURRENDER!!!
    Those are the terms.

    Russia is not doing anything that can be picked up by Western media and used to justify NATO no fly zone or intervention to save Ukraine - in my humble opinion. Such as: a counter offensive with 100,000 troops across the polish border or dropping a 10 mega tonne nuke on a city. This would not be in Moscow self interest nor would it help to complete war objective of denazification or demilitarisation.

    Moscow is wise not to take the bait, russia is big enough and strong enough to survive mosquito bites. (The civilian murders are regrettable and repugnant)

    THE ENEMY IS AT THE GATES, there is no running away from this, it is DO or DIE.
    The war is here and it is not going away unless Moscow COMMITS, if the NATO trash want to DIE, then let them come.
    In short, CALL THEIR F'ING BLUFF!!!!
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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:47 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:WTF IS GOING ON???!!!!!!! No

    What is going on is the Maidan fascist elite troops was destroyed by Russian bombardment in Kursk and Russia is getting victory after victory in Donbass.

    Russian's retaliation of "crossing the red line" is hammering the fascists in Donbass and taking key cities one by one.

    The Maidan fascists can blabber whatever they want about "victory" in Kursk but sensible people see full well that the Maidan front-line is collapsing elsewhere, and sensible Ukrainians is openly defying the fascist regime by the increase incidents of dodging conscription.

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    Post  MMBR Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:03 am

    I might need some assistance with my quotes 🤔

    ok, now that they have no cover, why are they still alive????????

    They are alive because it takes time to kill them and that is OK. The general staff and Moscow will weigh the military and political benefits and risks to find the right timeline to complete the operation in the kursk pocket. Don't forget, the extension of the front line in kursk makes capturing donbass (and eventually Odessa) easier, faster and occur with less casualties. It also provides political and moral clout to not negotiate, to possibly ask for unconditional surrender and vindicates Moscow's political arguments since the creation of NATO about its eastward expansion and existential threat to Russia. The longer the world sees NATO on Russian soil killing russians and paradoxically if NATO weapons are even used deeper into Russia it all helps Moscow, not EU or USA or Ukraine. Because it will vindicate Russia and it will free Moscow hand to do what it likes from the restraining voices of BRICS. That does not mean Putin will release scorched earth or nuclear weapons. It does mean Ukraine might experience unconditional surrender and cease to exist as a nation state and the UN actually accepts this because BRICS supports it as they saw the horror unleashed by the Kursk invasion and deep missile strikes into Russian civilian infrastructure.

    Moscow can use this to its advantage if Ukraine and the West is fool hardy enough to do it. Inevitably the west will do it i think and Russia will ultimately benifit politically and militarily. These will be merely more mosquito bites to Russia. They will be infentisimible attacks on the broad shoulders of a giant. They will be terrifying for the Russian people and enrage the military.

    Russia will respond to all of this in a manner that is proportionate, appropriate, punishes the offending nations and most importantly cannot be used by the western media to create a NATO intervention or no fly zone to save Ukraine at the final hour.

    I am legit shocked that there are still calls in Moscow for negotiations. This is not about pleasure, this is also not about losses anymore, with the Kursk event this has become a serious issue of deterrence.
    If you do not PROVE your deterrent capabilities, then you will simply invite more aggression.
    Without a proper demonstration of force, your enemy can only see you as weak.
    Allies and potential allies as well may see it as such.

    The leaders of nations, heads of defense ministries, heads of general staff and intelligence organisations will all see and take note of Russia response such as providing Iran with electronic warfare with 5,000 km range, houthi with modern antiship missiles etc. That is Russia target audience. Those are the people that you need to deter and they are the people who will see Russia response. Not the foxnews or CNN reporter with blond hair, blue eyes and fake boobs.


    If this is true, then there are many fools among the BRICS who do not grasp the enemy true desires.
    The empire will accept nothing other than their total subjugation.

    I misunderstood this originally and didn't answer it. I think in the new world that BRICS countries want to live in not a rules bases one, they would like to see more conflict resolved using negotiation rather than force. Rules based order used alot of coupes, civil wars, gurilla wars and invasions to maintain the cheap flow of resources. I think these countries would not like to see one great power replaced by another and act like the former emperor under a new logo.

    After seeing the kursk invasion they might be amenable to a realistic balance between the need use force to dissolve a state (ukraine) and the moral need to uphold an international law based order.

    Afterall alot of these brics countries would have experienced these coupes, civil wars, democracy movements etc the last 8 decades

    Like they are arming Iran, and Iran still does sweet F all, despite the horrific situation.
    Talk is cheap, threats are cheap, COMMIT OR SURRENDER!!!
    Those are the terms.

    Aren't they providing their version of scud missiles because they have no use for them currently but they are useful at the moment in Ukraine? I may be wrong and I am open to being wrong and corrected.


    THE ENEMY IS AT THE GATES, there is no running away from this, it is DO or DIE.
    The war is here and it is not going away unless Moscow COMMITS, if the NATO trash want to DIE, then let them come.
    In short, CALL THEIR F'ING BLUFF!!!!

    Russia did not go crazy when it's nuclear early warning radars were repeatedly targeted despite this being in its doctrine for launching of nuclear missiles and ww3.

    Just because a patient has a bacterial infection does not mean we give them intravenous antibiotics although it might be in the guidelines. The medical doctor still assess the situation and uses their clinical judgement when applying the guidelines and might decide to use oral antibiotics instead because it is the best course of action.

    Putin and the general staff do the same thing with the doctrine and deterrence.

    He applies his judgement to the doctrine, he weighs the enemies intent, objectives, balance of forces, his nations own objectives etc.

    Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. Deep strikes inside of Russia would just be another mistake, one that benifits russia and one Russia would capitalise on readily.

    Momentarily terrifying for the Russian people and enraging for many, yet ultimately it would merely be another mosquito bite to the giant. More importantly it would allow Russia to respond in a manner that is order of magnitude more damaging to NATO and usa soft and hard power without getting media attention and saving ukraine ass. That is an enourmous long term gain for a small short term cost.

    The politicians and decision makers in the west are simply too stupid to understand how badly they are being fucked over by Russia, because CNN and fox news are not reporting it in the news that they are getting fucked over.

    As lavrov said, they are children playing with fire. They have no idea how much trouble they are in.

    **** around, find out.


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    Post  GarryB Fri Aug 30, 2024 1:01 am

    Can someone please explain why the Kursk situation is still even a thing?

    Drop 12 thousand special forces into any hick area of any country and order them to scatter in small groups to evade and hide and do a bit of damage and take some tik tok photos and try to remain invisible for as long as you can hold out...

    If they were decent forces then they could hide for years, but these guys were HATO special forces trained for a year and a half so while they might be Ukraines best men... they were likely hand picked to just start the training... these are not conscripts, these are mercs and nazis... and possibly both.

    As in, why has Moscow not gone full scorched earth at this point??

    When your house is infested with mice and you think burning down the house is the best solution...

    Why TF are their even Ukro troops alive in Kursk??

    Why are nazis still a thing? It seems the west kept them alive because they like them...

    All this "controlled response" BS coming out of the Kremlin is simply being taken as WEAKNESS by the west, and possibly even the BRICS.

    The west has been thinking Russia is weak and Putin is weak... his red lines are not red lines, we can do anything we please.

    And how exactly is that working out for them?

    They can claim Russia is on the brink of collapse, but do you think that means anything at all?

    Simply put, your DETERRENT will only work IF YOUR ARE WILLING TO USE THEM!!
    By not charcoaling these F'ing fools in Kursk and proving your conventional deterrents in this case, your real enemy will simply assume you either don't have such deterrence or you lack the WILL to ever use such things.

    The US and HATO were in Afghanistan for 20 years... why didn't they just go scorched earth on them and wipe them out the first two weeks into the conflict.

    Instead they dragged it out and spent trillions on a country that is not better off now than the first day they arrived.

    You have a very simplistic view of how the world works, and also how wars happen.

    ITS A F'ING SHIT-TEST!!!Mad
    And Moscow has failed it.

    That is the song of the "the Sky is falling" club. Moscow has failed and now must surrender to Kiev and beg for mercy but must not expect any.

    The noise of sobbing women in the background...

    Now all that will happen is that we will go the next step up the ladder of escalation, which will be deep strikes within Russia.

    I hope they are that stupid, they have been warned.

    ok, now that they have no cover, why are they still alive????????

    When he says no cover, he means they are not in areas they have been fortifying for the last 10 years.

    They are in enemy territory will little chance of local support...

    The West will demand nothing less then Russia's capitulation.

    The west has wanted Putin out for the last 20 years.

    If you do not PROVE your deterrent capabilities, then you will simply invite more aggression.

    Have you not been paying attention to western rhetoric.. countries like Poland have said they have given as much as they can, Finland has said it needs to worry about its own border with Russia and can't do more to help... Biden is gone... promised money is not arriving... promised dividends are not being paid on time and are having to be restructured... Ukraines credit rating is descending, and they now have F-16s and they haven't suddenly won the war.

    In fact the highly trained nazis are getting killed in Kursk at a decent rate and along the front line they are steadily losing ground... allowing them to use long range weapons does not mean those weapons will reach their targets...

    Most HATO weapons used by the orcs seem to be getting shot down when fired at military targets.

    Occasionally a few slip through.

    The destruction of their power grid continues and winter is coming...

    Drone operators are sent to frontline trenches with rifles because they don't have enough soldiers to man the trenches...

    In terms of a starving man that is the body is consuming vital organs to keep the body alive.... it is killing itself for a few extra hours...

    Yeah, that is weakness...

    Without a proper demonstration of force, your enemy can only see you as weak.

    So weak and yet still winning.

    Most fighting systems recommend using an enemies strength against them and to appear weak and vulnerable while being smart and mobile.

    Allies and potential allies as well may see it as such.

    Allies and potential allies see Russia fighting the entire west and winning and growing and developing and still sending free food and fertiliser to Africa and forgiving debt to countries to promote trade and development and growth... when has the west ever done any of that?


    If this is true, then there are many fools among the BRICS who do not grasp the enemy true desires.

    Most know exactly what is happening but want to appear to be neutral because they don't give a **** about the Ukraine and they just want to continue to trade and make money.

    The empire will accept nothing other than their total subjugation.

    Which is why the coalition of the stupid this time around is essentially the EU and the G7.

    The rest of the world are not involving themselves in western sanctions... in fact China and India have been buying oil and other materials and selling them on to the west and making good money while also helping out the west and Russia and the west knows they can't stop them because they need the oil and other materials.

    How weak is that?


    THE ENEMY IS AT THE GATES, there is no running away from this, it is DO or DIE.
    The war is here and it is not going away unless Moscow COMMITS, if the NATO trash want to DIE, then let them come.
    In short, CALL THEIR F'ING BLUFF!!!!

    Have you not heard of the concept of passive resistance. Gandi is famous for it but there are Maori tribes in New Zealand that did this 100 years before... look up Parihaka...

    Russia could not defeat the west in all out war one on one... but they are defeating them because the west is destroying all its most powerful weapons and tools.... economic and political... trying to damage Russia and it hasn't worked.... it has only weakened the west in ways that Russia could never have weakened them.

    I might need some assistance with my quotes

    The quotes work like brackets and you need an open bracket.... {quote}, and a closed bracket {/quote}.

    You had both brackets but your second bracket was {quote}... you missed the / before the word quote to make it a closed brackets.

    The result was a whole lot of open brackets and a big layered nested bracket.

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    Post  Arsenic Fri Aug 30, 2024 1:05 am

    If Russia thinks that Europe and the United States will negotiate, it is seriously mistaken. The next step will be that the United States will allow Ukraine to strike at the heart of Russia with long-range missiles. And the damage is likely to be colossal because they will have many targets and Western intelligence will provide all the information and strike coordinates to the Ukrainians. While Russia leaves Ukrainian air bases operating, and leaves Ukrainian official buildings intact. The Ukrainians, for their part, will target everything that can hurt Russia. You can write whatever you want, saying that the Russian state knows what it is doing, but in the West, most people think that Russia is not as powerful as it believes. Therefore, Western public opinion continues to support Ukraine. I invite you to go read the French forum Air Defense Forum.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Fri Aug 30, 2024 1:26 am

    Arsenic wrote:If Russia thinks that Europe and the United States will negotiate, it is seriously mistaken. The next step will be that the United States will allow Ukraine to strike at the heart of Russia with long-range missiles. And the damage is likely to be colossal because they will have many targets and Western intelligence will provide all the information and strike coordinates to the Ukrainians. While Russia leaves Ukrainian air bases operating, and leaves Ukrainian official buildings intact. The Ukrainians, for their part, will target everything that can hurt Russia. You can write whatever you want, saying that the Russian state knows what it is doing, but in the West, most people think that Russia is not as powerful as it believes. Therefore, Western public opinion continues to support Ukraine. I invite you to go read the French forum Air Defense Forum.

    The only people talking negotiations are the west. Also, most people in the west, especially the USA, are easily led dupes. Every time 5th ave marketing execs sell them a war 70% plus start out buying it. I trust the Kremlin's judgement and handing of this war far more than I do concern trolls and doomers.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Aug 30, 2024 3:19 am

    Arsenic wrote:I invite you to go read the French forum Air Defense Forum.

    Pfftt.. fk that. Who gives a flying fk what some stupid enemy cheese-eating surrender-monkey thinks? The French exist to carry the bags of their superiors... nothing more.

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    Post  Hole Fri Aug 30, 2024 3:32 am

    This wasn't in the operating manual 
    Looks like the new drone with glass fibre guidance.

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    Post  PhSt Fri Aug 30, 2024 3:37 am

    Arsenic wrote:but in the West, most people think that Russia is not as powerful as it believes. Therefore, Western public opinion continues to support Ukraine.

    Good. Let the Westerners drink the ARSEnic kool aid, sooner or later it will KILL THEM Laughing

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    Post  lancelot Fri Aug 30, 2024 4:31 am

    Arsenic wrote:If Russia thinks that Europe and the United States will negotiate, it is seriously mistaken. The next step will be that the United States will allow Ukraine to strike at the heart of Russia with long-range missiles. And the damage is likely to be colossal because they will have many targets and Western intelligence will provide all the information and strike coordinates to the Ukrainians. While Russia leaves Ukrainian air bases operating, and leaves Ukrainian official buildings intact. The Ukrainians, for their part, will target everything that can hurt Russia. You can write whatever you want, saying that the Russian state knows what it is doing, but in the West, most people think that Russia is not as powerful as it believes. Therefore, Western public opinion continues to support Ukraine. I invite you to go read the French forum Air Defense Forum.
    If they want to get nuked, sure. When will these dolts realize that Russia can amp it up all the way to total destruction if necessary?

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    Post  Arrow Fri Aug 30, 2024 4:45 am

    If they want to get nuked, sure. When will these dolts realize that Russia can amp it up all the way to total destruction if necessary? wrote:

    Unfortunately, the West also has nuclear weapons, and a lot of them.

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    Post  Arrow Fri Aug 30, 2024 5:02 am

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Aug 30, 2024 5:26 am

    A usual day in the office ...

    https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/121338

    This group has been liquidated in the area of village Snegost: 51.317632708620316, 34.891173449008726

    22 ukrowehrmacht KIA.

    Russkie are conducting a cleaning operation, nothing more ...

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    Post  GarryB Fri Aug 30, 2024 5:32 am

    If Russia thinks that Europe and the United States will negotiate, it is seriously mistaken.

    Even if they wanted to Russia cannot trust them.

    Ukraines fate is sealed.

    The next step will be that the United States will allow Ukraine to strike at the heart of Russia with long-range missiles. And the damage is likely to be colossal because they will have many targets and Western intelligence will provide all the information and strike coordinates to the Ukrainians.

    That would make HATO C4STAR platforms legitimate targets... not to mention perhaps North Korea and Iran might want some nuclear warheads maybe.

    Everyone has red lines and the red lines of the west can be crossed too.

    The Ukrainians, for their part, will target everything that can hurt Russia

    They very occasionally reach an important target... but even then it is the back end of an airfield or a ship in dry dock.

    Electrical infrastructure is one thing but also targeting trucks and trains and other transport means will have an effect too.

    Not to mention heating systems and water supplies... Russia has a very wide range of targets they can escalate to because they didn't go full retard on day one.

    You can write whatever you want, saying that the Russian state knows what it is doing, but in the West, most people think that Russia is not as powerful as it believes.

    Why do you think that matters to Russia. Hitler and Napoleon thought they could defeat Russia too...

    Therefore, Western public opinion continues to support Ukraine. I invite you to go read the French forum Air Defense Forum.

    Let them... who cares... they are a spent force and the west will support you verbally, but if it actually means sending their best and brightest to fight and die on the front lines of a war that support ends real fast.

    If they want to get nuked, sure. When will these dolts realize that Russia can amp it up all the way to total destruction if necessary?

    Actually launching nukes is extreme, but look at how the west reacted to Russian nukes in Belarus... imagine Cuba and Venezula and Iran and North Korea...


    Unfortunately, the West also has nuclear weapons, and a lot of them.

    And they have moved them to Europe already...

    And BTW... that F-16 that crashed to pilot error is actually a kill... for Patriot...



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    Post  ALAMO Fri Aug 30, 2024 5:37 am

    Something that puzzled me a bit ...

    Kamera screen of a missile used on Krivy Rog attack 3 days ago :

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    Some sort of strange, two diameter missile that is BIG.

    Any thoughts? scratch

    My only guess would be ... 3M8 missile of Krug system :

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #60 - Page 19 96a97f10

    I can't remember any Soviet missile of similar shape.


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    Post  Rasisuki Nebia Fri Aug 30, 2024 5:39 am

    Logged in here again just to say the Russian Armed forces advancement in Donbass has increased in speed by 2x since Kursk began, it baffles my mind but Kursk is the gift that keeps on giving, Putin should not expel the ukrops and let them drown in their own piss and dirt this upcoming winter,  have a nice day lads Laughing

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    Post  franco Fri Aug 30, 2024 5:45 am

    Article about the local territorial militia operating in the Kursk region.

    https://ria-ru.translate.goog/20240830/spetsoperatsiya-1969293214.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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