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    Post  Regular Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:04 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:Russian units involved in fighting in  Kursk per Viktor Murakhovskiy
    https://t.me/Viktor_Murakhovskiy/673

    So, 2 marine brigades, regiment and part of brigade of special units, interestingly, separate RuAF motorized rifle regiment ( fighting around Korenevo- someone here mixed them up for VDV), rest are motorized rifle regiments or parts of moto rifle brigades (arty, tanks).

    Sorry, but that’s not entirely correct ORBAT. Some of the brigades mentioned are only in Ukrainian propaganda telegrams, no proofs or source of it is Forbes.

    There will be up to date one posted soon, so today or tomorrow.

    But pendanticism doesn’t change overall image.

    Other interesting things are ongoing, but everyone should still watch Kursk closely, because late stages of their operation will be very important for SMO in my opinion.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Thu Aug 22, 2024 6:37 pm

    Various Twitter sources claim mass executions of Russian civilian population in Kursk by Ukrainian armed forces.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Thu Aug 22, 2024 6:38 pm

    https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1826641585255182549

    Explosions on a railway ferry with fuel tanks in the port of Kavkaz after being hit by Ukrainian anti-ship missiles "Neptune".

    According to some sources, this may be the Conroe Trader train ferry.

    The enemy continues systematic attacks on Russian fuel infrastructure.

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    Post  Arrow Thu Aug 22, 2024 6:49 pm

    Satellite images of damage to the Marinovka airfield have appeared.

    https://t.me/dva_majors/50442
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Thu Aug 22, 2024 6:49 pm

    Every time Ukraine crosses a red line with impunity, it means that the next red line will be crossed in not too distant future.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Thu Aug 22, 2024 6:56 pm

    https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1826649965302874454

    Due to the damage, the ferry sank in the waters of the port of Kavkaz

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    Post  Mir Thu Aug 22, 2024 7:20 pm

    @Mein Kampf II

    I don't want to deny that the ferry got damaged (again) and sunk but re-posting the same footage of an explosion is not proof of anything you are saying dunno

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    Post  billybatts91 Thu Aug 22, 2024 7:47 pm

    I know Putin is busy kissing quran's and whatnot...but can he please wake up?

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    Post  caveat emptor Thu Aug 22, 2024 8:14 pm

    Arrow wrote:Satellite images of damage to the Marinovka airfield have appeared.

    https://t.me/dva_majors/50442

    It is weird that it looks like they decided not to defend airports and instead only relocate airplanes when there's a drone attack occurring. I don't think those tactics will work when Ukrainians start to attack airports with US and European missiles in mainland Russia.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Aug 22, 2024 8:34 pm

    A bit more, this may be the Conroe Trader train ferry. Could be either Storm Shadow or Neptune but the range is interesting.

    MOSCOW (Reuters) -A ferry loaded with fuel tanks sank in the Russian port of Kavkaz in southern Krasnodar region on Thursday after a Ukrainian attack, local authorities said.

    The ferry carrying 30 fuel tanks, as confirmed by Fyodor Babenkov, district head of the town of Temryuk which includes the port, sustained significant damage as a result of the attack, which caused a fire.

    Any potential casualties are being assessed. According to unofficial Telegram news channel Baza, 15 people were on board the ship and were missing after the attack. Ukraine has not immediately commented on the incident.

    Russian state news agency TASS, citing the ministry of transport, reported that all port employees were evacuated.

    A local task force said a special train to tackle the fire had been sent to the site. More than 100 people were engaged in tackling the blaze.

    Several Russian media outlets have shared images and videos that appear to depict the blaze and plumes of black smoke rising from the ship. Reuters could not immediately verify the videos.

    The fire didn't spread to the premises of the port, TASS reported.

    The port of Kavkaz is one of Russia's largest outlets on the Black Sea. It handles ships both for exports and for fuel supplies to Crimea.


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    Post  ALAMO Thu Aug 22, 2024 8:40 pm

    Something that sums up the Zitadel 2.0 quite well I would say Laughing

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    Post  Mir Thu Aug 22, 2024 8:50 pm

    Are they still looking for the third Third Reich piggy? Laughing

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Aug 22, 2024 9:09 pm

    Nah, they foud it already.
    Now wondering what ate it Laughing

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    Post  VARGR198 Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:03 pm


    A valid point. Part of the reason so many Ukraine vehicles get abandoned. This war reminds me of Germany 44-45

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    Post  caveat emptor Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:14 pm

    It seems like there is a possibility that not all planes were evacuated during attack. Probably, ones that were under repair.

    https://t.me/milinfolive/128992?single

    The consequences of the attack on Marinovka, filmed directly on the spot.

    The leaked footage is published by Ukrainian channels.

    As you can see, the arriving drones were equipped with shrapnel, and there were airplanes inside the light hangars at the time of impact.

    There is nothing more to add, since we have already bled our fingers over several years of writings about the need for normal protective hangars and mobile anti-aircraft groups.

    And again, even if a miracle of the Lord happens and the stupid people realize the need for the same anti-aircraft groups to destroy drones, it will no longer be possible to shoot down Western cruise missiles with machine guns when they fly.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:39 pm

    A burnout

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    Post  GarryB Fri Aug 23, 2024 12:37 am

    The Americans are not going to be happy about energy infrastructure being hit in Russia... perhaps this was Zelensky giving two fingers to the US expecting to lose their support or to collapse and it not matter any more?

    Regarding that airfield... it clearly has aircraft shelters and still some complain that if they only had 3 km deep nuclear bunkers for the planes they would have been safe...

    Did you by any chance work with the EU over sanctions... sanctions will work... and make those Russians do as we tell them... and then each round as they fail to protect planes or damage the Russian economy... because the Russian Air Force and the Russian economists are not fucking idiots, then the morons claim it was because the sanctions were not hard enough and just do a bit more damage to the west and cut more resources off from Russia... or in the case of hangars... spend a few trillion rubles making heavy duty hangars everywhere to save a few million in damage to aircraft... or how about move air defence systems to protect aircraft rather than troops on the front line for example....

    I understand what you are trying to say.... money should be invested protecting things from drone attack but no solution is going to fix everything every time.

    And BTW the number of successful attacks over three years considering the number of fixed and rotary wing airfields throughout the area of operations we are talking at a 0.001% effectiveness rate... which is not enough to justify shifting from rebuilding towns and cities in new Russian regions to building armoured hangars for aircraft... no matter how expensive they might be.

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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:17 am

    Why not several quadrillion rubles?
    If they can't organize mobile teams with HMGs and activate some Shilka's from reserves, in two and a half years, to shoot down slow flying drones, then as fellow Serbian puts it "they didn't deserve to have planes in the first place". We are talking about military airports they should protect.
    This is a multidimensional war, and while economical and foreign affairs parts of Russia are pulling their own weight and then some, Russian MoD is proving that they are weakest part of Russian government. That's what happens when nepotism takes over. Thank God Soviet scientists and state left massive nuclear arsenal.

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:28 am

    Where is the damaged planes?

    I mean, if you say it was hit and planes damaged, which planes and how many?

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:28 am




    I think you meant air bases and not airports.


    Perhaps there is lots of internal sabotage taking place by the ethnic Ukrainian fifth column?


    Putin is also to blame to a considerable degree, and I think he is an ethnic Ukrainian. This could explain his hostility to ethnic Poles.



    There is lack of that successful mobile offensive actions on the part of the Russians, like it was the case in the war to defend South Ossetia:

    http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/264/georgian-losses-reports

    http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/302/ukraine-participated-invasion-south-ossetia



    Except in the south, when the Crimea-Donbass Land Corridor was established.



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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:43 am

    @sepheronx
    caveat emptor wrote:It seems like there is a possibility that not all planes were evacuated during attack. Probably, ones that were under repair.


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    I said possibility, as obviously there are planes under some of these weather shelters. You can clearly see that in the picture. Not to mention, that again pics of the aftermath are leaking to Ukrainians.
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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:49 am

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:


    I think you meant air bases and not airports.


    Yes, air bases. The can't protect everything, obviously, but air bases should be priority. Especially, from these slow flying drones. Sooner or later, US will see that Russia is not reacting and Ukrainians will start hitting airports in old territories with ATACMS and Storm shadows. It is almost certain, at this point, that they'll give them JASSM-ER next, as well.
    Air base was hit pretty bad.

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    Post  Belisarius Fri Aug 23, 2024 3:11 am


    If they can't organize mobile teams with HMGs and activate some Shilka's from reserves, in two and a half years, to shoot down slow flying drones, then as fellow Serbian puts it "they didn't deserve to have planes in the first place". We are talking about military airports they should protect.

    There is no defense that can stop 100% of attacks 100% of the time, so stop pretending that a successful attack is a sign of a lack of protection.

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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Aug 23, 2024 3:40 am

    Except that is not true. In August, there were three air base attacks that passed through defenses and hit targets. Morozovsk, Savasleika and now Marinovka. All in less than 20 days. It's not like there's a granite defense and something slipped through. It became a regular occurrence, at this point.

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:19 am

    So we are basing things off of assumptions.

    We don't know the following:

    - if AD systems were present and how many they shot down. We know Ukraine usually does swarm attacks.

    - we don't know if anything of worth was damaged besides some shelters.

    So if we are assuming things, it becomes pointless.

    Anyway, it's kind of rich that Serbian would complain about how the airforce is handling defenses of Russia.

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