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    Post  Big_Gazza Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:30 am

    Arrow wrote:

    It won't be. Putin will order to sign another agreement with Ukraine/West. They will never learn.


    Not gonna happen.  Putin knows the West cannot be trusted, too much water (shit) has passed under the bridge to ever return to the way things were. Any flexibility or compromise will be seen as a sign of weakness, and no agreement these NATO cnts can sign will ever be worth the paper its printed on.  Ukraine is an existential threat and the banderite mind virus needs to be killed out, along with any of its sufferers who refuse to relinquish their racist russophobic hatreds.

    This war ends when the Kiev nazi regime is DEAD and the NAFO faggot trash have run back home with their bleeding arses held in both hands. Not one single minute before.

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    Post  Arrow Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:36 am

    Not gonna happen. Putin knows the West cannot be trusted, too much water (shit) has passed under the bridge to ever return to the way things were. Any flexibility or compromise will be seen as a sign of weakness, and no agreement these NATO cnts can sign will ever be worth the paper its printed on. Ukraine is an existential threat and the banderite mind virus needs to be killed out, along with any of its sufferers who refuse to relinquish their racist russophobic hatreds. wrote:

    Of course, logically speaking, this should not happen. But Putin's behavior has little to do with logic, he will strive for further agreements. These negotiations were already underway in August and Russia was ready to sign them. Only Ukraine entered the Kursk region. Putin is not able to learn anything. The better Russia behaves on the front, the West will dangle the carrot of agreements and negotiations and Putin will agree once again. So you may be surprised when Putin orders to sign further agreements with the West.

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    Post  Arrow Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:37 am

    his war ends when the Kiev nazi regime is DEAD and the NAFO faggot trash have run back home with their bleeding arses held in both hands. Not one single minute before. wrote:

    Forget that this will happen with Putin in power. Laughing

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:47 am

    Arrow wrote:

    Forget that this will happen with Putin in power. Laughing

    Until 2022, Russia had some reasons not to do a total war against Ukraine or to find painful compromises.

    In 2014 most people of Donbass and Novorossia were not ready to go to Russia. Most people there were happy in keeping a foot in both camps and continue leeching off Russia. At best 50% would have supported reuniting with Russia in 2014 (in Donbass and Odessa).

    Only in Crimea the support for reunion with Russia was overwhelming.

    A direct intervent in the rest of ukraine would have meant
    anticipating the war 8 years before, when the russian economy and industry was still much more reliant on the west. Logistics was a big factor (maybe not military logistics, but civilian one).

    Yes Ukraine was also much less ready for a war and Russia could have much more easily conquered the country. But then? It would have "controlled" Ukraine like US controlled Iraq or Afghanistan. Most of the neonazi would be still there and alive and everyone (even the people in the east and south of Ukraine that remained alive because of russian intervention would be complaining that Russia destroyed their European integration dream. Furthermore insurrections will be happening from Donetsk to Lvov every day and Russia could not get rid of the problem without committing genocides.

    Furthermore Russia would have been hit by 2022 level of sanctions already 8 years before, when not ready.

    Many people would be speaking against this unprovoked war also in Russia, and Russia itself would be at risk of hostile takeover with a Soros style revolution before 2018 (probably already in 2016) and subsequent dissolution of Russia in many statelets.

    Brics would probably also be stopped before actually becoming a real alternative.

    Also Russia would have not been able to intervene in Syria (because already entangled in Ukraine) and Damascus would have fallen before end 2015.

    Possibly the outcome would have been slightly different if Yanukovich had not been a stupid idiot who ran away from troubles, but even keeping him in power would have only postponed the problems for a couple of years (And in that case Russia would have never reunited with Crimea).

    Shall I continue?
    Back to the military operation in 2022.
    Russia had to offer a possibility for peace in April 2022 because most of Russian population was still in doubt about the war and because most of the global south (i.e. nations neutral or friendly to Russia) would have turned away if Putin revealed himself incapable of compromise.

    This way instead Putin offered not once but several times a possibility of peace, and now he can proceed without obstacles from either the Russian population or the friendly or Neutral country.
    Putin even showed them the signed agreement for peace from April 2022 which was reneged by Ukraine under British and American pressure....


    If Putin had done what you wanted, he would have ended up hanged or killed by a mob and Russia now would be just a few oblasts around Moscow and Sankt Petersburg.

    But of course you know better...

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    Post  Hole Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:53 am

    'd hate to be holding stock options on the Ukraine project these days...
    Buy Rheinmetall stock instead. lol1

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    The Kursk incursion was really a great idea.

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    Post  kvs Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:10 am

    PhSt wrote:Unfortunately, it looks like Ukraine will kidnap more unwilling cannon fodders to feed to the Russian meat grinder. I don't mind seeing Ukranians getting slaughtered but this will buy NATzO more time and opportunity to hurt Russians.


    Ukraine to force another 160,000 men into military – official

    https://www.rt.com/russia/606705-ukraine-new-mobilization-draft/

    The key word here is "will". The Khuyiv regime has utterly failed to deliver its 50,000 per month recruitment claims and this number is more wet excrement
    pulled form their anal orifices. Also, whatever they manage to dredge up cannot be prepared in two weeks to be effective soldiers. And the cherry on top
    of this turd cake is that they will not have the equipment to fight Russian forces. Meat wave assaults will not slow Russian forces down.

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    Post  Hole Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:11 am

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    Fire at a sub yard in Cumbria. Russian agents? Suspect

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    Post  Isos Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:46 am

    Hole wrote:
    'd hate to be holding stock options on the Ukraine project these days...
    Buy Rheinmetall stock instead. lol1


    Looking at Volkswagen's social plan and autodestruction indutrial projects, and all german companies will follow the same path, I would rather invest in Ukraine. Once Russia takes it, there will be cheap energy and empty factories waiting for investors.
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    Post  The-thing-next-door Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:06 pm

    Hole wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #62 - Page 4 Photo_52
    Fire at a sub yard in Cumbria. Russian agents? Suspect


    British sub manufacturer?

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:37 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
    In 2014 most people of Donbass and Novorossia were not ready to go to Russia. Most people there were happy in keeping a foot in both camps and continue leeching off Russia. At best 50% would have supported reuniting with Russia in 2014 (in Donbass and Odessa).

    Let's start with a fact, that Ukraine sucked Russkie dry.
    The amount of privileges, size of the market and both direct/indirect transfers was insane.
    Russia pumped at least the equivalent of EU transfers to the Polish economy.
    Still, it was Ukrainians who retained the ownership of most of it.
    Cutting this off was so dumb, that I guess nobody ever seriously considered that they will be crazy enough one day.
    That is why the western masters f the puppets had to unleash a regular coup d'etat supported by the nazis, as even the Ukro oligarchy was not going to support that in full.

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:39 pm

    @kvs, @PhSt:

    https://www.rt.com/russia/606712-ukrainian-army-deserters-mp/
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    Post  Firebird Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:38 pm

    Hole wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #62 - Page 4 Photo_52
    Fire at a sub yard in Cumbria. Russian agents? Suspect


    Nah just a coincidence. Like the other 3 in one day.🤔

    🤣🤣

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    Post  GarryB Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:48 pm

    Kiev might want to draft 160 thousand new soldiers, but what they actually draft and how they perform once they get to the front line is another story....

    And new story... Ukrainian MP shocked at stories of men not wanting to go to the front line.

    Why can't they be brave for their country like us MPs she says... do they not want to get slaughtered like cattle so I can live the high life and steal money meant for other things?

    Of course, logically speaking, this should not happen. But Putin's behavior has little to do with logic, he will strive for further agreements.

    Yes, we know your position... Putin is weak and stupid and is irrational and is always sucking up to the west... except if he was weak or stupid Russia would not be in the position it is currently in.

    Equally Putin has said no agreements while there are Ukrainian troops on Russian territory.

    He has also said that a ceasefire can only come into effect if Kievs forces withdraw from occupied Russian territory (ie the four new regions of Russia).

    These negotiations were already underway in August and Russia was ready to sign them.

    And only western sources ever mention these negotiations... do you not find that odd?

    Putin is not able to learn anything. The better Russia behaves on the front, the West will dangle the carrot of agreements and negotiations and Putin will agree once again. So you may be surprised when Putin orders to sign further agreements with the West.

    Putin is guilty of all this bad behaviour... except it is all in your head. The west said this conflict will be decided on the battlefield... back when they thought Kiev had any chance at all... now they are getting desperate.

    There is no point in negotiating anything with Kiev, and talking to the US is pointless till the election is over and if the civil war is avoided then negotiations can start... if the Ukrainian military has not collapsed by then.

    Kiev is not going to do well this winter no matter who gets elected in the US.

    Meat wave assaults will not slow Russian forces down.

    The Russians adapted to meat waves and dealt with the problem very efficiently.

    Now they are mastering drones they can move forward and find the meat themselves... even chase them into buildings and foxholes...

    And unlike Ukrainian drones that try to kill Russian drones by destroying themselves, the Russians have net firing drones that allow them to actually capture Ukrainian drones and repurpose them and take parts and examine these horribly expensive bits of crap.

    Fire at a sub yard in Cumbria. Russian agents?

    No matter what the truth Putin will get the blame...

    Looking at Volkswagen's social plan and autodestruction indutrial projects, and all german companies will follow the same path, I would rather invest in Ukraine. Once Russia takes it, there will be cheap energy and empty factories waiting for investors.

    The EU has said seized Russian assets will not be returned even if the war ends, so I really can't see Russia being interested in honouring any contracts the current or previous Kiev regimes have signed over the years selling out their country to foreign predators.

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    Post  franco Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:35 pm

    Russian MoD reporting 2035 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours including Kursk;

    During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to more than 350 servicemen, 25 armored vehicles were destroyed, including a tank, an infantry fighting vehicle and 23 armored combat vehicles, as well as two mortars, an armored recovery vehicle and 25 vehicles.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12534950@egNews

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    Post  GarryB Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:13 pm

    Almost like you can't trust western media outlets like the Financial Times...

    https://www.rt.com/russia/606742-kremlin-comment-energy-strikes-talks-ukraine/

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:52 pm

    Kiko wrote:Prayer book and Canadian flag found on foreign mercenaries killed in Bryansk region, by Alexey Degtyarev for VZGLYAD. 10.28.2024.

    The four saboteurs eliminated in the Bryansk region were carrying foreign weapons and equipment, the FSB Public Relations Center reported.

    An illegal attempt to cross the border, presumably by foreign mercenaries, was thwarted by employees of the regional border department of the Russian FSB and units of the Russian Armed Forces and the Russian National Guard, the department said, TASS reports.

    During the clash, all four saboteurs were eliminated, and the remnants of the retreating group were subjected to a missile and artillery strike and suffered losses.

    The killed members of the group were armed with foreign weapons and had equipment and means of communication indicating their affiliation with third countries. Among the personal items found were a Canadian flag, a prayer book in Polish, and a notebook with tactical notes in English.

    On the body of one of the liquidated persons, a tattoo with the symbols of the 2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Special Forces Airborne Reconnaissance Regiment of the US Army was found.

    On Sunday, Bryansk Region Governor Alexander Bogomaz announced that an attempt by an armed group to illegally cross the state border had been thwarted in the Klimovsky District.

    https://vz.ru/news/2024/10/28/1294917.html



    The Polish prayer book was from apparently a Pole (Nawrocki) who lived in the U.S.A. and who served in the U.S. Marine Corps since 2011.

    Therefore, there were no Polish special forces involved.


    You can read his obituary here:

    https://northpennnow.com/news/2024/oct/30/lansdale-man-marine-KIA-ukraine-corey-nawrocki-bryansk-recon/




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    Post  ALAMO Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:02 pm

    GarryB wrote:Almost like you can't trust western media outlets like the Financial Times...

    They are just placing psycho anchors for further usage.
    Just take a look at how they exploit the "North Koreans are coming!" drama.
    If NK is interested in using its own troops to gain experience - and Russkie will find a niche for them- it is a clear win-win situation.
    Since the very beginning, 404 has been using all the western-supplied cash it can harvest to pay as many hired guns as possible.
    We are seeing records of those at a daily basis - both still breathing and already enriching the soil.
    Just think for a moment about how that shit backfired.
    Ukrs are shitting their pants - in real.
    They are being fed with phantasies of how a herd of commie human robots will invade and smash all the resistance with no mercy for either side Laughing A fukin Gingis Khan reborn Laughing Laughing Laughing

    And by the way, some news just flied by today, that if we are to take seriously the numbers of container traffic from NK to Russia that the west is yapping about, we are dealing with ... 6 mln artillery rounds provided.
    Let that sink.
    Six mln.
    Laughing

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    Post  Hole Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:08 pm

    No matter what the truth Putin will get the blame...
    I didn´t post that because of some blame game, but because of every small fire in Russia in the past
    year being connected to some mythical Banderite or western agent.



    Just to show how great the situation of the Banderites is:

    Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Syrsky ordered the transfer of technical personnel of military aviation to infantry units. This was reported by Verkhovna Rada deputy Maryana Bezuglaya.

    Earlier, there was information about the same thing regarding doctors.

    Source: Intel Slava

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:11 pm

    F-16 salokadzhe transfered ...?!?

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    Post  PhSt Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:06 am

    higurashihougi wrote:@kvs, @PhSt:

    https://www.rt.com/russia/606712-ukrainian-army-deserters-mp/
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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:56 am

    The NAFO mutts bark but the caravan rolls on... Twisted Evil

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    Post  PhSt Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:50 am

    Russia please KILL these NAziTO Terrorists next!   Litter Ukraine with corpses of these swine!! attack

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    Post  LMFS Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:49 am

    PhSt wrote:Unfortunately, it looks like Ukraine will kidnap more unwilling cannon fodders to feed to the Russian meat grinder.

    If they were able to meet a fraction of the recruitment numbers they need to keep the front properly manned, Russians would not be advancing practically unopposed in South Donetsk. The locations of the front where units have not been killed or sent to Kursk hold by a thread, the ones that were not so lucky are collapsing already. Russians' main problem now is deciding what of the many options available they will use for their next cauldron...

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    Post  franco Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:23 pm

    Russian MoD reporting 2530 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours including Kursk;

    During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces amounted to more than 300 soldiers, four armored combat vehicles were destroyed, as well as eight artillery pieces, four mortars, an Israeli-made RADA radar station and nine cars.

    In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost more than 28,600 troops, 180 tanks, 101 infantry fighting vehicles, 106 armored personnel carriers, 1,059 armored combat vehicles, 768 vehicles, 248 artillery pieces, 40 multiple rocket launchers, including 11 HIMARS and six MLRS manufactured by the United States, nine anti-aircraft launchers missile systems, seven transport-loading vehicles, 58 electronic warfare stations, 12 counter-battery radars, four air defense radars, 25 units of engineering equipment, of which 13 engineering barrier vehicles, one UR-77 mine clearance unit, as well as five armored recovery vehicles and a command and staff vehicle.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12535059@egNews

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    Post  ucmvulcan Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:13 pm

    PhSt wrote:Russia please KILL these NAziTO Terrorists next!   Litter Ukraine with corpses of these swine!! attack


    Imagine being so stupid that you're concerned about elections all the while fighting for a nation that doesn't allow its citizens to vote, or have free speech, free press, or religious freedom. Of course that level of derptitude does explain why these clowns are trying to win Darwin awards.

    Oh and PhSt, as the good book says, "ask and you will receive." These fucktards will find themselves kalibrated.

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