Russian special military operation in Ukraine #62

Arrow wrote:

It won't be. Putin will order to sign another agreement with Ukraine/West. They will never learn.

Not gonna happen.  Putin knows the West cannot be trusted, too much water (shit) has passed under the bridge to ever return to the way things were. Any flexibility or compromise will be seen as a sign of weakness, and no agreement these NATO cnts can sign will ever be worth the paper its printed on.  Ukraine is an existential threat and the banderite mind virus needs to be killed out, along with any of its sufferers who refuse to relinquish their racist russophobic hatreds.

This war ends when the Kiev nazi regime is DEAD and the NAFO faggot trash have run back home with their bleeding arses held in both hands. Not one single minute before.

Not gonna happen. Putin knows the West cannot be trusted, too much water (shit) has passed under the bridge to ever return to the way things were. Any flexibility or compromise will be seen as a sign of weakness, and no agreement these NATO cnts can sign will ever be worth the paper its printed on. Ukraine is an existential threat and the banderite mind virus needs to be killed out, along with any of its sufferers who refuse to relinquish their racist russophobic hatreds. wrote:

Of course, logically speaking, this should not happen. But Putin's behavior has little to do with logic, he will strive for further agreements. These negotiations were already underway in August and Russia was ready to sign them. Only Ukraine entered the Kursk region. Putin is not able to learn anything. The better Russia behaves on the front, the West will dangle the carrot of agreements and negotiations and Putin will agree once again. So you may be surprised when Putin orders to sign further agreements with the West.

his war ends when the Kiev nazi regime is DEAD and the NAFO faggot trash have run back home with their bleeding arses held in both hands. Not one single minute before. wrote:

Forget that this will happen with Putin in power.

Arrow wrote:

Forget that this will happen with Putin in power.

Until 2022, Russia had some reasons not to do a total war against Ukraine or to find painful compromises.

In 2014 most people of Donbass and Novorossia were not ready to go to Russia. Most people there were happy in keeping a foot in both camps and continue leeching off Russia. At best 50% would have supported reuniting with Russia in 2014 (in Donbass and Odessa).

Only in Crimea the support for reunion with Russia was overwhelming.

A direct intervent in the rest of ukraine would have meant
anticipating the war 8 years before, when the russian economy and industry was still much more reliant on the west. Logistics was a big factor (maybe not military logistics, but civilian one).

Yes Ukraine was also much less ready for a war and Russia could have much more easily conquered the country. But then? It would have "controlled" Ukraine like US controlled Iraq or Afghanistan. Most of the neonazi would be still there and alive and everyone (even the people in the east and south of Ukraine that remained alive because of russian intervention would be complaining that Russia destroyed their European integration dream. Furthermore insurrections will be happening from Donetsk to Lvov every day and Russia could not get rid of the problem without committing genocides.

Furthermore Russia would have been hit by 2022 level of sanctions already 8 years before, when not ready.

Many people would be speaking against this unprovoked war also in Russia, and Russia itself would be at risk of hostile takeover with a Soros style revolution before 2018 (probably already in 2016) and subsequent dissolution of Russia in many statelets.

Brics would probably also be stopped before actually becoming a real alternative.

Also Russia would have not been able to intervene in Syria (because already entangled in Ukraine) and Damascus would have fallen before end 2015.

Possibly the outcome would have been slightly different if Yanukovich had not been a stupid idiot who ran away from troubles, but even keeping him in power would have only postponed the problems for a couple of years (And in that case Russia would have never reunited with Crimea).

Shall I continue?
Back to the military operation in 2022.
Russia had to offer a possibility for peace in April 2022 because most of Russian population was still in doubt about the war and because most of the global south (i.e. nations neutral or friendly to Russia) would have turned away if Putin revealed himself incapable of compromise.

This way instead Putin offered not once but several times a possibility of peace, and now he can proceed without obstacles from either the Russian population or the friendly or Neutral country.
Putin even showed them the signed agreement for peace from April 2022 which was reneged by Ukraine under British and American pressure....


If Putin had done what you wanted, he would have ended up hanged or killed by a mob and Russia now would be just a few oblasts around Moscow and Sankt Petersburg.

But of course you know better...

'd hate to be holding stock options on the Ukraine project these days...

Buy Rheinmetall stock instead.




The Kursk incursion was really a great idea.

Fire at a sub yard in Cumbria. Russian agents?

Hole wrote:

'd hate to be holding stock options on the Ukraine project these days...

Buy Rheinmetall stock instead.

Looking at Volkswagen's social plan and autodestruction indutrial projects, and all german companies will follow the same path, I would rather invest in Ukraine. Once Russia takes it, there will be cheap energy and empty factories waiting for investors.

Hole wrote:
Fire at a sub yard in Cumbria. Russian agents?

British sub manufacturer?

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
In 2014 most people of Donbass and Novorossia were not ready to go to Russia. Most people there were happy in keeping a foot in both camps and continue leeching off Russia. At best 50% would have supported reuniting with Russia in 2014 (in Donbass and Odessa).

Let's start with a fact, that Ukraine sucked Russkie dry.
The amount of privileges, size of the market and both direct/indirect transfers was insane.
Russia pumped at least the equivalent of EU transfers to the Polish economy.
Still, it was Ukrainians who retained the ownership of most of it.
Cutting this off was so dumb, that I guess nobody ever seriously considered that they will be crazy enough one day.
That is why the western masters f the puppets had to unleash a regular coup d'etat supported by the nazis, as even the Ukro oligarchy was not going to support that in full.

Hole wrote:
Fire at a sub yard in Cumbria. Russian agents?

Nah just a coincidence. Like the other 3 in one day.

Russian MoD reporting 2035 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours including Kursk;

During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to more than 350 servicemen, 25 armored vehicles were destroyed, including a tank, an infantry fighting vehicle and 23 armored combat vehicles, as well as two mortars, an armored recovery vehicle and 25 vehicles.

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12534950@egNews

Kiko wrote:Prayer book and Canadian flag found on foreign mercenaries killed in Bryansk region, by Alexey Degtyarev for VZGLYAD. 10.28.2024.

The four saboteurs eliminated in the Bryansk region were carrying foreign weapons and equipment, the FSB Public Relations Center reported.

An illegal attempt to cross the border, presumably by foreign mercenaries, was thwarted by employees of the regional border department of the Russian FSB and units of the Russian Armed Forces and the Russian National Guard, the department said, TASS reports.

During the clash, all four saboteurs were eliminated, and the remnants of the retreating group were subjected to a missile and artillery strike and suffered losses.

The killed members of the group were armed with foreign weapons and had equipment and means of communication indicating their affiliation with third countries. Among the personal items found were a Canadian flag, a prayer book in Polish, and a notebook with tactical notes in English.

On the body of one of the liquidated persons, a tattoo with the symbols of the 2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Special Forces Airborne Reconnaissance Regiment of the US Army was found.

On Sunday, Bryansk Region Governor Alexander Bogomaz announced that an attempt by an armed group to illegally cross the state border had been thwarted in the Klimovsky District.

https://vz.ru/news/2024/10/28/1294917.html

The Polish prayer book was from apparently a Pole (Nawrocki) who lived in the U.S.A. and who served in the U.S. Marine Corps since 2011.

Therefore, there were no Polish special forces involved.


You can read his obituary here:

https://northpennnow.com/news/2024/oct/30/lansdale-man-marine-KIA-ukraine-corey-nawrocki-bryansk-recon/

GarryB wrote:Almost like you can't trust western media outlets like the Financial Times...

They are just placing psycho anchors for further usage.
Just take a look at how they exploit the "North Koreans are coming!" drama.
If NK is interested in using its own troops to gain experience - and Russkie will find a niche for them- it is a clear win-win situation.
Since the very beginning, 404 has been using all the western-supplied cash it can harvest to pay as many hired guns as possible.
We are seeing records of those at a daily basis - both still breathing and already enriching the soil.
Just think for a moment about how that shit backfired.
Ukrs are shitting their pants - in real.
They are being fed with phantasies of how a herd of commie human robots will invade and smash all the resistance with no mercy for either side A fukin Gingis Khan reborn

And by the way, some news just flied by today, that if we are to take seriously the numbers of container traffic from NK to Russia that the west is yapping about, we are dealing with ... 6 mln artillery rounds provided.
Let that sink.
Six mln.

No matter what the truth Putin will get the blame...

I didn´t post that because of some blame game, but because of every small fire in Russia in the past
year being connected to some mythical Banderite or western agent.



Just to show how great the situation of the Banderites is:

Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Syrsky ordered the transfer of technical personnel of military aviation to infantry units. This was reported by Verkhovna Rada deputy Maryana Bezuglaya.

Earlier, there was information about the same thing regarding doctors.

Source: Intel Slava

F-16 salokadzhe transfered ...?!?

higurashihougi wrote:@kvs, @PhSt:

https://www.rt.com/russia/606712-ukrainian-army-deserters-mp/

               

The NAFO mutts bark but the caravan rolls on...

Russia please KILL these NAziTO Terrorists next!   Litter Ukraine with corpses of these swine!!

PhSt wrote:Unfortunately, it looks like Ukraine will kidnap more unwilling cannon fodders to feed to the Russian meat grinder.

If they were able to meet a fraction of the recruitment numbers they need to keep the front properly manned, Russians would not be advancing practically unopposed in South Donetsk. The locations of the front where units have not been killed or sent to Kursk hold by a thread, the ones that were not so lucky are collapsing already. Russians' main problem now is deciding what of the many options available they will use for their next cauldron...

Russian MoD reporting 2530 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours including Kursk;

During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces amounted to more than 300 soldiers, four armored combat vehicles were destroyed, as well as eight artillery pieces, four mortars, an Israeli-made RADA radar station and nine cars.

In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost more than 28,600 troops, 180 tanks, 101 infantry fighting vehicles, 106 armored personnel carriers, 1,059 armored combat vehicles, 768 vehicles, 248 artillery pieces, 40 multiple rocket launchers, including 11 HIMARS and six MLRS manufactured by the United States, nine anti-aircraft launchers missile systems, seven transport-loading vehicles, 58 electronic warfare stations, 12 counter-battery radars, four air defense radars, 25 units of engineering equipment, of which 13 engineering barrier vehicles, one UR-77 mine clearance unit, as well as five armored recovery vehicles and a command and staff vehicle.

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12535059@egNews