China's Military and Geopolitics

Had no doubt in my mind that you are not a Serb but rather one of those low life, low IQ people of color. Explains your fondness for Pakis.

You misunderstand... he thinks you are a pakistani because you support a Chinese and Russian invasion to destroy India, he does not realise you are Russian.

BTW if you take a DNA test you will find there are very few people with no colour in them... pink and white are colours too.

First, China is NOT communist.

Communism is a system of government and it is the system of government China uses.

Just this year itself the European members of G7 chose not to accept the US dictum of imposing sanctions on China.

For financial reasons, not ideological ones.

They don't want to save China, they have a lot of money invested there and don't want to lose those, and see 1.5 billion customers for their products which is a market they don't want to cut themselves out of either.

The US on the other hand think they can swap from 1.5 billion Chinese buying buying their crap, to 1.2 billion Indians buying their crap... it is a sacrifice they are prepared to go with. Perhaps they have worked out that Indias population is going to keep growing while the population of China might stabilise and level out.

Corporate America itself is the biggest supporter that China has in the West, as Nike's CEO states here in this interview how important China is for Nike

In ten years time Chinese workers are going to demand more rights and more money for the work they do and Corporate America will run to India or Bangledesh for cheap expendable labour sources... hell if the ruble is low enough they might look at shifting production to Russia... but more likely the Ukraine if they can get guarantees their money wont just disappear.

Lessons for Russia and India - if we were large enough ( US$ 10 trillion economy), human rights, military misadventure and all the other issues for which we are chided by the West, will be a 10th order variable..

They also sold out to those western companies and effectively screwed there own people and their own environment... western companies build factories in China because there is no red tape... ironically... you want to build a big factory on this river and pump filth directly into it... go ahead as long as lots of money comes our way we don't care... the workers will work at slave labour levels...

China has been very clever to encourage investment and even more so those Nike factories making shoes 8 hours a day... the manager that runs the factory trains up two more shifts so the factory is running 24/7, but for the other 16 hours it makes Nukee shoes with the same materials and design but different labels which he sells to other markets for $20 a pair. It means very little mark up price but he will sell millions of shoes, and most customers wont bother to bring back shoes they paid $40 for if they only last 2 years, while with Nikes when they wear out after 2 years but cost you $300 a pair you ask for replacements and get a pair for free... which means you are still paying $150 a pair anyway.

Pretty soon that manager has made enough money to build his own factories for making shoes and he starts getting orders and modifying the designs... and his shoes are not worse than western shit we already buy but much cheaper... though as the quality and design get better the price creeps up as wages increase...

Market economy is prohibited under communism.

Rubbish. Market economies have nothing to do with politics.

China is a one party state which is a loose definition of Communism in the west. Technically you might claim they are a socialist state, but to most westerners it is the same thing.

China maybe ruled by a party that defines itself as Communist but even members of this politburo owns private assets described above.

My understanding of the system is that you can go for money or politics but not both, you can be rich or you can be powerful but not both.

Sounds like a good idea to me... look at what has happened in the west... you have companies telling the US drug and food administration to make laws to allow foods made mostly of sugar to be called sugar free... how can that be in the interests of the public?

If I find a brain I'll buy it for you. India friend/client of Russia for a century Razz Razz India did not even exist till 1947.

Russia didn't exist between about 1918 and 1991 either and like India has been artificially fragmented assisted by those white europeans you love so much.

India was a friend/client but now China is Russia's friend and ally and also a client. Russia need not have to fight India directly but should support China when it invades India.

You seem sure China will not invade Russia, yet think they might invade India?

I realise that is what the US wants, but are you really so weak willed to just believe it might be true because the US wants it to happen?

The US also wanted Assad out and Putin out for that matter... two obvious things they have failed miserably in trying to make happen.

The real irony is throwing white power around the place when most western europeans consider Russians to be half asian...

It is white people in the US and UK and EU that stir up chaos and death because they make a lot of money that way... they are nothing to follow or revere.

Makes sense... the US wants war and China wants to trade... it is pretty obvious which of the two would send troops to occupy Thailand at any given time.

US support and military build up and stupid empty gestures like visits from politicians helped prevent war in the Ukraine... it is bound to be just as effective in Taiwan... the obvious solutions are military threats and military buildups as well as sanctions and attempts to demonise and isolate their enemy should work as well as it did in Europe...

walle83 wrote:

GarryB wrote:US support and military build up and stupid empty gestures like visits from politicians helped prevent war in the Ukraine... it is bound to be just as effective in Taiwan... the obvious solutions are military threats and military buildups as well as sanctions and attempts to demonise and isolate their enemy should work as well as it did in Europe...

On the other hand China is overreacting here.

And the difference between Ukraine and Taiwan is that the US has not made any military promises in Ukraine but they have said over and over that they will military help Taiwan if China attacks them.

It's not a matter of China overreacting

But instead as in the Ukraine - it's a matter of the US overreaching. There was no necessity in US officials visiting Taiwan at this moment, as there was no necessity in constructing military bases in the Ukraine or covering for it not implementing the Minsk peace process.
These actions are not for the benefit of US's own security - but rather altogether transparent attempt to box in those it sees as its enemies and rivals (despite them also not having threatened the US). And the reactions of those America sees as its enemies are in fact entirely predictable; they will act to break out of the trap set for them or turn the tables.