Is that because of Some neo-nazi groups fought against that pro-russian criminal?
The Same groups were this week removed from Kiev by KIEV forces so kiev doesn't even support those groups THEY WANT THEM TO LEAVE.
Flyingdutchman wrote:Israel is ISIS?!!!?!?! Hahahahahha HOLY SHIT.
You're sick man.
Vann7 wrote:Flyingdutchman wrote:Israel is ISIS?!!!?!?! Hahahahahha HOLY SHIT.
You're sick man.
Yep.. not crazy..
Hold..will look for the report.. Israeli support anyone ,even the same devil if they can use them against
their enemies.
Flyingdutchman wrote:Vann7 wrote:
What we witness in the world today is a criminal mafia western elite ,that have hostage the entire world at gun point. And Russia is the only one standing to counter them.Now it doesn't matter if Nation crash civilian planes with hundreds of passengers against buildings to justify a war. It doesn't matter if they openly finance and arm Terrorist organizations and nazis to overthrow governments. It doesn' matter if their allies celebrate the killing of children in cameras.. as Israel does.That bomb even schools of United Nations with children inside Two Times and no single sanction against them. Without that inconditional EU support to them ,it will have been IMPOSSIBLE for that criminal elite to continue terrorizing the world as they are doing in the middle east ,and now in eastern Europe.
Stop with your bullshit.
The "evil" west and the "evil" US, are the only one that do something About ISIS ( those guys that Shell cities, and kill everyone that doesn't believe in the Same or believe something at all ).
They even kill CHILDREN, they push people back to a mountain and let them starve to DEATH!!
And NO ONE is doing something!!
But the US is doing it!!
FRANCE is doing it!!
THE WEST IS DOING IT!!
And Russia is doing NOTHING, NOT A FUCKING THING!! ( don't start About the delivery of fighters that iraqi's can barely fly ).
Russia doesn't give a fuck About the people tht are starring yet.
But when the whole world starts to give logistical supplies, THEN Russia willndo something.
But they won't take the LEAD, in something that MATTERS TO THE WORLD!!!
AND THE WEST DOES IT!!!!!!!
Flyingdutchman wrote:Vann7 wrote:Flyingdutchman wrote:Israel is ISIS?!!!?!?! Hahahahahha HOLY SHIT.
You're sick man.
Yep.. not crazy..
Hold..will look for the report.. Israeli support anyone ,even the same devil if they can use them against
their enemies.
Not sure About that buddy...
Flyingdutchman wrote:And now somebody start telling me WHY you call ukrainians nazi's?
Is that because of Some neo-nazi groups fought against that pro-russian criminal?
The Same groups were this week removed from Kiev by KIEV forces so kiev doesn't even support those groups THEY WANT THEM TO LEAVE.
Airbornewolf wrote:@ zivo's post.
the guy is clearly an amateur. he has not the character or physical body of an combat soldier, yet he has an rather expensive 600 dollar holo-sight equipped on his weapon next to his NATO M.O.L.L.E type vest that looks brand-new.
proffesional seasoned soldiers always hold their rifle in front of their chest with their finger next the safety. especially at kodak-moments. none of "us" wants to be caught on camera looking like some amateur like this guy.
Airbornewolf wrote:Flyingdutchman wrote:And now somebody start telling me WHY you call ukrainians nazi's?
Is that because of Some neo-nazi groups fought against that pro-russian criminal?
The Same groups were this week removed from Kiev by KIEV forces so kiev doesn't even support those groups THEY WANT THEM TO LEAVE.
the driving force in the violence inside the Ukrainian government is indeed Ukrainian Nazi party's like Svoboda and Right Sector. they openly see Stephan Bandera as an Ukranian hero while he had close ties with Nazi-germany in WW2. Bandera actively formed subversive units and other para-millitary groups to do the Nazi's bidding against russians. that happened to co-incide with the Nazi goverment at the time. or...in extention...to this day on behalf of the U.S government. its all on the internet, just google it.
Like the Taliban where "usefull tools" against the Russians in the soviet-afghan war the U.S simply is financing and using the Svoboda and Right sector neo nazi's to cross the Russians.
in 2010, Ukraine declared Stephan Bandera an hero. the EU and U.S where condemning the decision and etcetera and etcetera. but clearly they do not have problems with having that kind of people in government now.
history often repeats itself Flyingdutchman, and the U.S has a habit of running its own programs identical to those it already done in the past. stop reading mainstream media and go research yourself the facts .
Flyingdutchman wrote:Vann7 wrote:
What we witness in the world today is a criminal mafia western elite ,that have hostage the entire world at gun point. And Russia is the only one standing to counter them.Now it doesn't matter if Nation crash civilian planes with hundreds of passengers against buildings to justify a war. It doesn't matter if they openly finance and arm Terrorist organizations and nazis to overthrow governments. It doesn' matter if their allies celebrate the killing of children in cameras.. as Israel does.That bomb even schools of United Nations with children inside Two Times and no single sanction against them. Without that inconditional EU support to them ,it will have been IMPOSSIBLE for that criminal elite to continue terrorizing the world as they are doing in the middle east ,and now in eastern Europe.
Stop with your bullshit.
The "evil" west and the "evil" US, are the only one that do something About ISIS ( those guys that Shell cities, and kill everyone that doesn't believe in the Same or believe something at all ).
They even kill CHILDREN, they push people back to a mountain and let them starve to DEATH!!
And NO ONE is doing something!!
But the US is doing it!!
FRANCE is doing it!!
THE WEST IS DOING IT!!
And Russia is doing NOTHING, NOT A FUCKING THING!! ( don't start About the delivery of fighters that iraqi's can barely fly ).
Russia doesn't give a fuck About the people tht are starring yet.
But when the whole world starts to give logistical supplies, THEN Russia willndo something.
But they won't take the LEAD, in something that MATTERS TO THE WORLD!!!
AND THE WEST DOES IT!!!!!!!
Regular wrote:Why does Russia have to spend resources to help crush ISIS or other terrorists in the world.
USA is far richer and more powerful country but they can't do a shit right. Middle east is their backyard, they fought for influence there from beginning of Cold War. Russia should stay out for now.
Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
Russian court arrests five Ukrainian servicemen suspected of crimes against civilians
ROSTOV-ON-DON, August 08, /ITAR-TASS/. The Krasnosulinsky district court in Russia’s southern Rostov region arrested five Ukrainian officers on Friday. They are suspected of using prohibited means of warfare and shelling the Russian territory, the court said.
The officers including battalion commander of Ukraine’s 72 mechanized brigades Ivan Voitenko, his deputy Vitaly Dubinyak, tank battalion commander Alexander Polyakov, battalion chief of staff Alexander Okhrimenko and company commander Dmitry Ustilko crossed the Russian border together with more than 400 Ukrainian servicemen on August 3.
All of them, according to investigators, admit the fact of using various weapons but they have denied using it against peaceful civilians.
Vladimir Markin, a spokesperson for the Russian Investigation Committee, said on Friday that the servicemen from Voitenko’s battalion testified he had ordered the use of heavy offensive weapons against the towns of Krasnopartizansk and Krasnodon in the Lugansk region that lasted from July 19 to August 3. As a result, at least ten civilians were killed or wounded.
Investigators are also checking information on whether the 72nd motorized brigade used phosphorous bombs against civilians and was linked to shelling the Russian territory.
Earlier on Friday, Markin said the detained Ukrainian servicemen could hardly have imagined when they were heading to carry out a punitive operation in Eastern Ukraine in nationalistic frenzy that they would have to answer for their crimes sooner or later.
“Instead of jubilations on Maidan in their honor and all the promised (military) decorations, they will face a trial, a sentence and ultimately a fair punishment,” Markin stressed.
One of the significant aspects of the very minuscule amount of help Russia is giving Novorossiya. An early "Nuremberg"?
Well some terrorists they fight are not paid, but they are consiquence of their idiotic foreign policy.Werewolf wrote:Regular wrote:Why does Russia have to spend resources to help crush ISIS or other terrorists in the world.
USA is far richer and more powerful country but they can't do a shit right. Middle east is their backyard, they fought for influence there from beginning of Cold War. Russia should stay out for now.
I don't get it why someone would make such a statement? USA could do something....like stop paying terrorists and mercenaries to cause chaos everywhere and creating all this terror groups.
Feldmarszal wrote:I wonder if 2 or 3 months from now, when winter starts to set in and people start freezing in their little tents, everyone in the west will still be against Russian intervention. It will be interesting to see what the white collars at the UN and what the Ukrainian everyman will think about over-the-border pain relievers then.
What also makes me wonder is how Kiev is going to pay for Russian resources while maintaining full mobilization and fighting a guerilla war with the most important industrial areas of the country on their knees? Everyone in the western Ukraine might find their heaters real cold, real fast...
sepheronx wrote:
Lastly, they will bring the country into continuous debt. They will keep pushing more and more IMF loans in order to change the countries economy where they will become reliant on money coming from the west to pay for their demands. And this in turn will keep the country in a continuous debt spiral that will never end, and they will owe far more in the future than they will now. This simulated currency will pay for the resources needed (even if the money is considered toilet paper).
the basic necessities.
Don't worry, when you are in the hands of uncle sam, you won't be left to starve or freeze to death. You will just have to do everything they want, and you will get the basic necessities.
http://voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/3585-voyna-na-yugo-vostoke-onlayn-10082014-hronika-sobytiy-post-obnovlyaetsya.html wrote:There are reports that in Izyumsk near Kharkov People's Republic, destroyed supply column, which was carrying ammunition deployed in Izyumsk 1st Independent Tank Brigade redeployed there from Chernigovska oblast'. Four truckloads of ammunition blew up. The fifth truck captured militiamen were filled, not with tank ammunition, but with American ATGM FGM-148 Javelin (Javelin).
Most likely, Javelins were brought in Kharkov by the American military transport aircraft, which is often there in the last few nights.
Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:This is interesting.
Google translation with a bit of cleanup:http://voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/3585-voyna-na-yugo-vostoke-onlayn-10082014-hronika-sobytiy-post-obnovlyaetsya.html wrote:There are reports that in Izyumsk near Kharkov People's Republic, destroyed supply column, which was carrying ammunition deployed in Izyumsk 1st Independent Tank Brigade redeployed there from Chernigovska oblast'. Four truckloads of ammunition blew up. The fifth truck captured militiamen were filled, not with tank ammunition, but with American ATGM FGM-148 Javelin (Javelin).
Most likely, Javelins were brought in Kharkov by the American military transport aircraft, which is often there in the last few nights.