"They did not destroy hospital, but...they are still guilty".. i love this logic.
and this bears another question...
How it can be damaged in the first place ?
Did Russian fighters do a gun strafe ?
I assume you have never been on recieving side of aerial bombs
Mark 84 (probably with conversion kit for guidance) fell some 500m from where i was in 1999. it destroyed building it ment, and significantly damaged outdoors of all buildings around it, windows were shattered in 300m radius maybe even more. Suprisingly noone died coz it was during night and ppl were sleeping noone was on the street.
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"They did not destroy hospital, but...they are still guilty".. i love this logic.
and this bears another question...
How it can be damaged in the first place ?
Did Russian fighters do a gun strafe ?
I assume you have never been on recieving side of aerial bombs
Mark 84 (probably with conversion kit for guidance) some 500m from where i was in 1999. it destroyed building it ment, and significantly damaged outdoors of all buildings around it, windows were shattered in 300m radius maybe even more. Suprisingly noone died coz it was during night and ppl were sleeping noone was on the street.
Stealthflanker wrote:and this bears another question...
How it can be damaged in the first place ?
Did Russian fighters do a gun strafe ?
Not necessarily, probably it was damaged during clashes or random attacks some time ago and it has not been repaired properly due to lack of manpower, funds or both since those workers on the left hint to what appears to be a slow work in progress.
I assume you have never been on recieving side of aerial bombs
Mark 84 (probably with conversion kit for guidance) some 500m from where i was in 1999. it destroyed building it ment, and significantly damaged outdoors of all buildings around it, windows were shattered in 300m radius maybe even more. Suprisingly noone died coz it was during night and ppl were sleeping noone was on the street.
Yeah. so i asked.
So the damage around are from flying debris and blast waves. i see.
Cyberspec wrote:Should be Russian...there are (unverified) reports that half the Mi-24's have been deployed at a SyAF base in the province
Update
RuAF Mi-8 alongside Syrian Mi-8 at a base in Hama province....some Mi-24's could be stationed there as well
Also,
WASHINGTON, Nov. 4 - RIA Novosti. The US believes that Russia deployed ground artillery in the Syrian province of Hama and Homs, said Wednesday at a congressional hearing the US Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland. "Russia has decided to place ground artillery, and this further worsens the situation in the provinces of Hama and Homs, "- said Nuland. She did not provide any evidence of this assertion.
Over-pressure from the explosion does damage way beyond lethal range. It's fine if you're living in a strong stone & wood house but modern construction is extremely flimsy.
Closed windows will be shattered, dropped ceiling will be dislodge, doors can get bend out of shape, wiring and tubes will be damaged, plaster separation will crack, etc...
Sure it's nothing compare to actually be where the bomb fall, but it's still damages.
U.S. Brings Dogfighters to Counter Russians Over Syria
The US is moving jets intended for air-to-air combat to Syria-and Russia might be why
An American poster made some weird claims today
But toe-to-toe, mano-y-mano, I think the F-15 comes out on top of any Russian fighter including the Su-30. This is because
1.) US Pilots are younger, in better physical conditioning, and get more flight time.
2.) Avionics and Radar packages are better in F-15.The F-15 ECM and radar package is always being updated. That's where the advantage comes in. The F-15 is old and that's one of its strengths. The IAF had a well known incident where in a mid air collision an F-15 was still able to fly missing a wing.
3.) The US knows what the Russian pilots will do before the Russian Pilot does thanks to that 'souka'Adolf Tolkavchev
Some photos of one of Russia's recently acquired cheap merchant ships, this time the Robur now known as the Alexandr Tkachenko, a 25 year old RO-RO ferry capable of carrying (on my simple calculation) around 30 full length Euro tractor/trailer units. On this trip on the upper deck there are mainly small containers and associated light trucks/trailers. The contents of the lower deck is unknown but it could possibly hold 25+ MBT or similar.
max steel wrote:U.S. Brings Dogfighters to Counter Russians Over Syria
The US is moving jets intended for air-to-air combat to Syria-and Russia might be why
An American poster made some weird claims today
But toe-to-toe, mano-y-mano, I think the F-15 comes out on top of any Russian fighter including the Su-30. This is because
1.) US Pilots are younger, in better physical conditioning, and get more flight time.
2.) Avionics and Radar packages are better in F-15.The F-15 ECM and radar package is always being updated. That's where the advantage comes in. The F-15 is old and that's one of its strengths. The IAF had a well known incident where in a mid air collision an F-15 was still able to fly missing a wing.
3.) The US knows what the Russian pilots will do before the Russian Pilot does thanks to that 'souka'Adolf Tolkavchev
I always love their absolute ignorance and stupidity. and consistently underestimate their opponents in every war. in WW2 they got man-handled by german subs that also sailed in sight of U.S harbours, they could not handle Vietnam and the Chinese kicked their asses in North Korea too back to what's now the DMZ. Couldnt handle Iraqi insurgents....couldnt handle Taliban... all with "superior technology"
But sure, they will be more than able fighting an modernized millitary global superpower with an exausted millitary where suicides nowadays outrank combat casualties that are themselves dramatically high in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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"They did not destroy hospital, but...they are still guilty".. i love this logic.
and this bears another question...
How it can be damaged in the first place ?
Did Russian fighters do a gun strafe ?
I assume you have never been on recieving side of aerial bombs
Mark 84 (probably with conversion kit for guidance) fell some 500m from where i was in 1999. it destroyed building it ment, and significantly damaged outdoors of all buildings around it, windows were shattered in 300m radius maybe even more. Suprisingly noone died coz it was during night and ppl were sleeping noone was on the street.
max steel wrote:U.S. Brings Dogfighters to Counter Russians Over Syria
The US is moving jets intended for air-to-air combat to Syria-and Russia might be why
An American poster made some weird claims today
But toe-to-toe, mano-y-mano, I think the F-15 comes out on top of any Russian fighter including the Su-30. This is because
1.) US Pilots are younger, in better physical conditioning, and get more flight time.
2.) Avionics and Radar packages are better in F-15.The F-15 ECM and radar package is always being updated. That's where the advantage comes in. The F-15 is old and that's one of its strengths. The IAF had a well known incident where in a mid air collision an F-15 was still able to fly missing a wing.
3.) The US knows what the Russian pilots will do before the Russian Pilot does thanks to that 'souka'Adolf Tolkavchev
Americans can be very simple minded people. No critical thinking amongst most of them.
1) What does younger pilots have to do with it? Second of all, does the *intelligent* man even know the names and what kind of condition Russian pilots are in? 2) And did he provide any data to back his claim up? We do know that Bars radar can detect/track roughly around 200km for a fighter size target. F-15C is what? Roughly the same? There seems conflicting info but F-15C APG-63V2 AESA radar has a detection/track range of roughly 195km. But there is very little open data on it. It is mostly just talk more so than anything. Not to mention Russian jets would get support from ground based systems like ground based radar, electronic warfare systems like Krasukah-4 just as examples. It isn't a 1vs1 enviornment. 3) And none of that even applies anymore as things have changed since the 80's. As example, basic upgrades and adjustments of equipment like radar systems. Hence why US was surprised by even the interception from Su-30SM's that they apparently didnt detect with their F-16's (which BTW, F-16's have apparently better radar than the F-15C's. Well, at least the Saudi variants do).
The F-15 and Su-30 are roughly comparable....the rest posted in Max's post is basically 'blah blah blah'
Pretty much. Although the APG-63V2 is newer than the BARS-M radar but quite similar to performance in terms of detection range.
max steel wrote:U.S. Brings Dogfighters to Counter Russians Over Syria
The US is moving jets intended for air-to-air combat to Syria-and Russia might be why
An American poster made some weird claims today
But toe-to-toe, mano-y-mano, I think the F-15 comes out on top of any Russian fighter including the Su-30. This is because
1.) US Pilots are younger, in better physical conditioning, and get more flight time.
2.) Avionics and Radar packages are better in F-15.The F-15 ECM and radar package is always being updated. That's where the advantage comes in. The F-15 is old and that's one of its strengths. The IAF had a well known incident where in a mid air collision an F-15 was still able to fly missing a wing.
3.) The US knows what the Russian pilots will do before the Russian Pilot does thanks to that 'souka'Adolf Tolkavchev
1)Now unexperienced pilots are better and have more experience that veterans.. and he even claim americans have "more flight time" 2)Older planes now are better.. it was before a major problem for Russia but now is a feature. and he somehow talk about how much better are American ECM than Russian ones even thought American pentagon military have said Russia is ahead them. He goes and explain an anecdote of how F-15 can fly with a missing wing.. Obviously no pilot in their right mind will like to test their luck flying with one. 3)Oh now American Pilots know how Russian Pilots thinks for a 40 years old report of a soviet spy.
In Short according to him Russian Airforce is "doomed" ,because the USA is #1
He seems like many of the brainwashed teens that post at F16.net forums that are full brainwashed of Hollywood movies and Discovery Channel documentaries of how the American forces always win in all fights.
In more serious note will be nice to see more Old School Russian Bombers in Syria with more capabilities to carry more and deadlier weapons.. something like this..
the Sexiest plane/bomber in the world..
It can carry cruise missiles with nuclear warhead too.. so it will have a major psychological impact on the nations temped to do something stupid in Syria and provoke or even attack Russian airforce. It can carry a very huge workload of weapons.. up to 69 × FAB-250 or 8 × FAB-1500
Compare that with the 8-12 bombs that the SU-34 can carry of the FAB-250. IF my numbers are correct ,A single TU-22 should be equivalent to the work of all 4-6 x Su-34 in Syria. Also wondering why Russia do not equip/modify/configure a cargo plane like Antonov An-124 ,fill it with Bombs fully, fly it very high above terrorist bombs and do a mass scale carpet bombing ,but also customize it to drop FAB series of Bombs.. or the FOAB super bomb. it will be super nice if dropped on the terrorist .
With such a bomb , with 300m radius destruction..even if terrorist not located in that zone.. it will blow up their ears hearing the explosion at 400m or 500m and no longer communicate by radio or coordinate anything. The fear also such a bomb will cause will provoke terrorist to flee any city that is warned its people will be bombed by it.
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Does anyone know when the air contingent in Latakia is getting rotated? Personally I'd like to see Su-35 deployed for the CAP role and Tu-22M3 bombers deployed to bomb mujahids.
ultron wrote:Does anyone know when the air contingent in Latakia is getting rotated? Personally I'd like to see Su-35 deployed for the CAP role and Tu-22M3 bombers deployed to bomb mujahids.
Well, if Su-35S got to Syria, it would really counter those F-15C's since Irbis-E's performance is top notch and closer to APG-79 track/detection so would trump the F-15C's. But that wont happen.
Here apparently news of....Russian destroyer Vice-Admiral Kulakov going towards Syria with KA-27s onboard. If someone with knowledge of language would be so kewl and translate last paragraph for us
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and he somehow talk about how much better are American ECM than Russian ones even thought American pentagon military have said Russia is ahead them. He goes and explain an anecdote of how F-15 can fly with a missing wing.. 
