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Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

JohninMK

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JohninMK Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:00 pm

KoTeMoRe wrote:

franco wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

franco wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

franco wrote:Apparently the ASF now has 69 aircraft in Syria. Newcomers include 8 more Su-34 plus some Su-27SM3's. Does anyone have an exact count?

I understood that the total planes participating was indeed 69 including those who operate through Iran.

So in fact only 12 more Su27 family planes were brought in for the VKS and they're at Krymsk.

Link below, a flight could be either 2 or 4.

http://tass.ru/en/defense/838162

Are the 69 aircraft those flying over Syria or those based there?

The Su-34 and 27SM3 flying out of Russia would have to go through Turkish or Bulgarian airspace. Not happening...
Also the bomber fleet is 14 Tu-22M3, 5 Tu-160 and 6 Tu-95MS out of Russia.

Look at the page before, you have break down of forces.

The 12 new Su27 family have to be used from Krymsk according to the Russians themselves.

Thanks guys.

So the 69 (or so) is made up of those based locally in Syria plus the Russia based long range bombers and their Su-27 escorts (as far as the Iran border when the IAF takes over).

I thought that 69 operating at that sortie rate out of a fairly small airfield was pushing it. Whoever is controlling the logistics there is doing an amazing job and will be due some serious promotions. I note that there is a Major General on site, he must now be due hero status for what he has achieved.

The road to the port must be pretty congested and must be the location of a large percentage of the Russian Marines in Syria.

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JohninMK Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:04 pm

max steel wrote:HAHAH WELL FOXTROTALPHA is one of the many US military enthusiast running site/blog on internet showing how Russian is junk and everything is all great about our Empire of Chaos.

I find the actual topics they run quite interesting but I seldom read the comments.

Another interesting site and a current thread is http://warisboring.com/articles/french-jets-head-to-an-old-stomping-ground-for-one-last-fight/

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higurashihougi Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:11 pm

Litva's president claimed that the country won't join anti-IS alliance lead by Russia...

Well the hard truth is that Russia does not need the participation of Litva. Sorry Ms. President but it seems like Putin doesn't care.

http://uatoday.tv/politics/lithuania-will-not-join-anti-is-coalition-with-russia-president-538410.html

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max steel Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:15 pm

JohninMK wrote:

max steel wrote:HAHAH WELL FOXTROTALPHA is one of the many US military enthusiast running site/blog on internet showing how Russian is junk and everything is all great about our Empire of Chaos.

I find the actual topics they run quite interesting but I seldom read the comments.

Another interesting site and a current thread is http://warisboring.com/articles/french-jets-head-to-an-old-stomping-ground-for-one-last-fight/

Medium's Blog War is Boring aka War on the rocks is again biased claptrap but there are some contributors among War is Boring Team posting sensible things too. Their article on PAK-FA was an example.

Baltics is forever US bootlickers. Neglect them.

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franco Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:35 pm

max steel wrote:

Very fake. Not even a single PC is on in front of the officers, except maybe the one controlling the pre-prepared stuff on the big screen
Putin is struggling to stay awake . Putin's yawning was noted by all observers.

I suspect these officers would be duty officers and each 2-man table would connect to a command (ie Combined Arms Army or Air Force Division) The purpose of the 2 man unit ensures that one is always on station while the other has to leave his post.

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PapaDragon Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:46 pm

Kimppis wrote:

max steel wrote:

................

Very fake. Not even a single PC is on in front of the officers, except maybe the one controlling the pre-prepared stuff on the big screen
Putin is struggling to stay awake . Putin's yawning was noted by all observers.

That footage is from the briefing, right? So they were supposed to watch that pre-prepared stuff on the big screen and that's it. I guess the higher-ups work elsewhere, so they don't need PCs there. And doesn't Putin always look like that?

Agreed. I find it hilarious how people seem to think that content of those screens when journalists are allowed inside has anything to do with what they display during everyday operations. Razz

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Solncepek Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:52 pm

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PapaDragon Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:55 pm

higurashihougi wrote:Litva's president claimed that the country won't join anti-IS alliance lead by Russia...

Well the hard truth is that Russia does not need the participation of Litva. Sorry Ms. President but it seems like Putin doesn't care.

http://uatoday.tv/politics/lithuania-will-not-join-anti-is-coalition-with-russia-president-538410.html

And what would their contribution be if I might ask? Would they throw another Nazi rally? I don't think that ISIS would be impressed with bunch of morons walking around with torches... pwnd

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whir Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:28 pm

Solncepek wrote:image x2

CyberBerkut wrote:21.11.2015 SAMs for Qatar. The Poles supply ISIS militants with Ukrainian weapons

CyberBerkut keeps on sorting the emails of the head of Polish arms company "Level 11" Paul Witold Kzhykovsky. In October we partially published some information obtained from them.
Looking through the Kzhykovsky's correspondence with the Vice-president of "Level 11" Vasily Babytsky we paid attention to the letter from some Volodimir Kuruts.

Having googled for a while we found out that Volodymyr Yanovich Kuruts was an actual person. He works as the Counsellor for Trade and Economic Affairs in The Embassy of Ukraine to the State of Qatar.
The letter contains two applications which unveil the fact that Qatar Ministry of Defence was actively looking for the ways to procure SAM systems in September, 2015.
Evidently for this purpose the Qatar military delegation attended international exhibition "Arms and Security – 2015" which took place on September 22 – 27 in Kiev. Continue reading.

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kvs Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:22 pm

whir wrote:

Solncepek wrote:image x2

CyberBerkut wrote:21.11.2015 SAMs for Qatar. The Poles supply ISIS militants with Ukrainian weapons

CyberBerkut keeps on sorting the emails of the head of Polish arms company "Level 11" Paul Witold Kzhykovsky. In October we partially published some information obtained from them.
Looking through the Kzhykovsky's correspondence with the Vice-president of "Level 11" Vasily Babytsky we paid attention to the letter from some Volodimir Kuruts.

Having googled for a while we found out that Volodymyr Yanovich Kuruts was an actual person. He works as the Counsellor for Trade and Economic Affairs in The Embassy of Ukraine to the State of Qatar.
The letter contains two applications which unveil the fact that Qatar Ministry of Defence was actively looking for the ways to procure SAM systems in September, 2015.
Evidently for this purpose the Qatar military delegation attended international exhibition "Arms and Security – 2015" which took place on September 22 – 27 in Kiev. Continue reading.

Bitter, loser nutjobs whose hate for Russia makes them blind and retarded. Eventually this sort of behaviour catches up with such idiots and they
will feel the consequences of their actions. Je ne suis Polish retard.

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JohninMK Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:50 pm

max steel wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

max steel wrote:HAHAH WELL FOXTROTALPHA is one of the many US military enthusiast running site/blog on internet showing how Russian is junk and everything is all great about our Empire of Chaos.

I find the actual topics they run quite interesting but I seldom read the comments.

Another interesting site and a current thread is http://warisboring.com/articles/french-jets-head-to-an-old-stomping-ground-for-one-last-fight/

Medium's Blog War is Boring aka War on the rocks is again biased claptrap but there are some contributors among War is Boring Team posting sensible things too. Their article on PAK-FA was an example.

As with much on the Internet, there is good stuff amongst the dross.

Sadly, according to the UK's telecoms regulator, a disturbingly high proportion of children think that what is on Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, Google etc is true.

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sepheronx Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:39 pm

Kimppis wrote:

max steel wrote:

Very fake. Not even a single PC is on in front of the officers, except maybe the one controlling the pre-prepared stuff on the big screen
Putin is struggling to stay awake . Putin's yawning was noted by all observers.

That footage is from the briefing, right? So they were supposed to watch that pre-prepared stuff on the big screen and that's it. I guess the higher-ups work elsewhere, so they don't need PCs there. And doesn't Putin always look like that?

Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4 - Page 36 V8snocG

@1:55 you will be able to see it.
Anyone who works on computers, dummy terminals, etc as a job, will know that such monitors have a back bezel in order to hide cabeling. See picture. Red is a protruding cable and the yellow is the bezel to hide cables. Dell monitors in the 24 and 27 inch range meant for workstations have this for the clamp/arm extenders. As well, more than likely these guys don't have a single workstation but using dummy terminals that connect to a mainframe. For instance something like this:
Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4 - Page 36 FlvPi0M

Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4 - Page 36 FlvPi0M

Not necessarily that unit but such thin clients/dummy terminals have mounting brackets for various placements, so more than likely it is on the side of the desk on the inside.

Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4 - Page 36 SYQzgl7

Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4 - Page 36 SYQzgl7

Thin clients don't need anything powerful or exceptional to run as the mainframe does most of the job. In this case, the hard drive in them are usually a SD Card with enough space for the OS (Linux) and some applications like a hyperterminal for linux.

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Neutrality Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:18 pm

higurashihougi wrote:Litva's president claimed that the country won't join anti-IS alliance lead by Russia...

Well the hard truth is that Russia does not need the participation of Litva. Sorry Ms. President but it seems like Putin doesn't care.

http://uatoday.tv/politics/lithuania-will-not-join-anti-is-coalition-with-russia-president-538410.html

Oh the tragedy! Now Russia will have to do without the invisible Lithuanian Air Force lol1

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par far Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:43 pm

Neutrality wrote:

higurashihougi wrote:Litva's president claimed that the country won't join anti-IS alliance lead by Russia...

Well the hard truth is that Russia does not need the participation of Litva. Sorry Ms. President but it seems like Putin doesn't care.

http://uatoday.tv/politics/lithuania-will-not-join-anti-is-coalition-with-russia-president-538410.html

Oh the tragedy! Now Russia will have to do without the invisible Lithuanian Air Force

This is very funny LOL

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JohninMK Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:46 pm

sepheronx wrote:

Kimppis wrote:

max steel wrote:

Very fake. Not even a single PC is on in front of the officers, except maybe the one controlling the pre-prepared stuff on the big screen
Putin is struggling to stay awake . Putin's yawning was noted by all observers.

That footage is from the briefing, right? So they were supposed to watch that pre-prepared stuff on the big screen and that's it. I guess the higher-ups work elsewhere, so they don't need PCs there. And doesn't Putin always look like that?

@1:55 you will be able to see it.
Anyone who works on computers, dummy terminals, etc as a job, will know that such monitors have a back bezel in order to hide cabeling. See picture. Red is a protruding cable and the yellow is the bezel to hide cables. Dell monitors in the 24 and 27 inch range meant for workstations have this for the clamp/arm extenders. As well, more than likely these guys don't have a single workstation but using dummy terminals that connect to a mainframe. For instance something like this:

Not necessarily that unit but such thin clients/dummy terminals have mounting brackets for various placements, so more than likely it is on the side of the desk on the inside.

Thin clients don't need anything powerful or exceptional to run as the mainframe does most of the job. In this case, the hard drive in them are usually a SD Card with enough space for the OS (Linux) and some applications like a hyperterminal for linux.

Not necessarily. Those desks look like they have ventilation vents in the front which would not be needed if they are operating as thin clients. We don't get a clear view of both sides of the base of the screen. There is room there for a cable slot. It would be very unusual if the screen had captive cables not sockets.

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par far Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:12 pm

"SYRIA: A GAME BY RUSSIA’S RULES", a very good article, explaining the situation in middle east. After reading this article, I think Russia should step up their support for the Shia's and Iran.

http://southfront.org/syria-a-game-by-russias-rules/

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PapaDragon Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:15 pm

Zaid Benjamin Verified account ‏@zaidbenjamin

#Syria | Fuel prices rise 80% in #ISIL controlled areas after more airstrikes targeting tankers - SOHR

https://twitter.com/zaidbenjamin/status/667734458460712960

Russian cruise missiles filmed while traversing Iraqi Kurdistan:

I gotta say that Russian cruise missiles make lot nicer sound than American ones but then again, I have a VERY BIASED opinion on this topic... lol1

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Guest Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:16 pm

Rodinazombie wrote:

ShahryarHedayatiSHBA wrote:Tu-160 bombing raid

Seems like a huge waste of fuel, why not just fly from engels ovr iran/iraq and then return back the same way? Would be much shorter flight times.

Pilots gather flying hours this way too, also refueling tanker crews get their training in real situations etc. Plus it sends a message of a sort.

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Siempre_Leal Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:18 pm

Militarov, thanks for the post. Where have you been man?
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Guest Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:19 pm

Siempre_Leal wrote:Militarov, thanks for the post. Where have you been man?

Made little pause, was reading mostly Smile

You welcome.

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TU160 being refueled by IL78 over Caspian Sea.

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JohninMK Sat Nov 21, 2015 8:00 pm

Siempre_Leal wrote:Militarov, thanks for the post. Where have you been man?

Agree, good to see you again. Now the post count goes into overdrive again Smile

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Bolt Sat Nov 21, 2015 8:01 pm

Neutrality wrote:

higurashihougi wrote:Litva's president claimed that the country won't join anti-IS alliance lead by Russia...

Well the hard truth is that Russia does not need the participation of Litva. Sorry Ms. President but it seems like Putin doesn't care.

http://uatoday.tv/politics/lithuania-will-not-join-anti-is-coalition-with-russia-president-538410.html

Oh the tragedy! Now Russia will have to do without the invisible Lithuanian Air Force

Hey, buddy! Watch your tongue! We have one L-39 and one Spartan! An several Mi-8!!
Russia just lost a big possible ally!

bahhahahaha, yes, our fucking president is that dumb. Sad

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Bolt wrote:

Neutrality wrote:

higurashihougi wrote:Litva's president claimed that the country won't join anti-IS alliance lead by Russia...

Well the hard truth is that Russia does not need the participation of Litva. Sorry Ms. President but it seems like Putin doesn't care.

http://uatoday.tv/politics/lithuania-will-not-join-anti-is-coalition-with-russia-president-538410.html

Oh the tragedy! Now Russia will have to do without the invisible Lithuanian Air Force

Hey, buddy! Watch your tongue! We have one L-39 and one Spartan! An several Mi-8!!
Russia just lost a big possible ally!

bahhahahaha, yes, our fucking president is that dumb.

Well...AN26 was used as bomber in Yugoslavia couple of times, nothing is stopping you from using Spartan same way Very Happy

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