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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:40 am


    E tu, Brute? lol1

    "Turns Out, Russia Was Right: ISIL Oil is Going to Turkey – German Media"

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151128/1030895284/Russia-Right-ISIL-OilI-Going-Turkey.html#ixzz3sk4CKwUg



    Ivan the Colorado wrote:"Evil Russia is using illegal munitions on the peace loving civilians" meme has resurfaced. Incendiary bombs now. This time Raqqa where there is no such thing as a peaceful civilian.

    https://twitter.com/raqqa_sl/status/670284120510111746
    https://twitter.com/iraqisecurity/status/670335333867905024

    Wasn't blowing sh*t up i Raqqa one of the core values of this entire undertaking? Cool

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:44 am


    Militarov wrote:Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6 - Page 5 CU20P4EWEAAy98e

    "Forgive us Recep" - refering to Recep Erdogan written on R27 missile.

    Looks like Russian pilots are out for blood...Turkey blood... Twisted Evil

    Moron Erdogan, before this it was just geopolitics for Russia but now he made the whole thing personal.

    Can entire countries win Darwin Award or is it only given to individuals? Razz


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    Post  KiloGolf Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:50 am

    The Kremlin’s Holy Warrior

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    The spokesman for the Russian Orthodox Church has blessed Vladimir Putin’s Syrian intervention as a sacred crusade. Jihadis in Syria happen to agree.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/24/the-kremlins-holy-warrior-chaplin-putin-russia-turkey-syria
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    Post  Guest Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:53 am

    KiloGolf wrote:
    The Kremlin’s Holy Warrior

    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6 - Page 5 Gettyimages-143244487chaplin

    The spokesman for the Russian Orthodox Church has blessed Vladimir Putin’s Syrian intervention as a sacred crusade. Jihadis in Syria happen to agree.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/24/the-kremlins-holy-warrior-chaplin-putin-russia-turkey-syria

    Guy on the left, Serbian lol
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    Post  Stealthflanker Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:38 am

    Ivan the Colorado wrote:"Evil Russia is using illegal munitions on the peace loving civilians" meme has resurfaced. Incendiary bombs now. This time Raqqa where there is no such thing as a peaceful civilian.

    https://twitter.com/raqqa_sl/status/670284120510111746
    https://twitter.com/iraqisecurity/status/670335333867905024

    They only need a little bit of time to google...

    RBK-250 with ZAB 2.5 incendiary warhead... and no..they're no WP bomb.

    Hell it's been around and detailed since 2012

    http://rogueadventurer.com/2012/11/27/update-cluster-munitions-in-syria-zab-2-5-incendiary-submunitions/

    http://rogueadventurer.com/2012/12/13/differential-identification-of-white-phosphorus-and-zab-submunitions-in-syria/

    But for some reason.. ppl are just ignorant and call it WP..
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    Post  OminousSpudd Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:53 am

    Stealthflanker wrote:
    Ivan the Colorado wrote:"Evil Russia is using illegal munitions on the peace loving civilians" meme has resurfaced. Incendiary bombs now. This time Raqqa where there is no such thing as a peaceful civilian.

    https://twitter.com/raqqa_sl/status/670284120510111746
    https://twitter.com/iraqisecurity/status/670335333867905024

    They only need a little bit of time to google...

    RBK-250 with ZAB 2.5 incendiary warhead... and no..they're no WP bomb.

    Hell it's been around and detailed since 2012

    http://rogueadventurer.com/2012/11/27/update-cluster-munitions-in-syria-zab-2-5-incendiary-submunitions/

    http://rogueadventurer.com/2012/12/13/differential-identification-of-white-phosphorus-and-zab-submunitions-in-syria/

    But for some reason.. ppl are just ignorant and call it WP..

    Because it is WP, very Well Played. Very Happy
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:09 am

    Militarov wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    The Kremlin’s Holy Warrior

    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6 - Page 5 Gettyimages-143244487chaplin

    The spokesman for the Russian Orthodox Church has blessed Vladimir Putin’s Syrian intervention as a sacred crusade. Jihadis in Syria happen to agree.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/24/the-kremlins-holy-warrior-chaplin-putin-russia-turkey-syria

    Guy on the left, Serbian lol

    Wish I could say I'm surprised, I really wish I could.... lol1

    I swear, it's like we have some genetic condition that keeps us from not sticking our heads out... thumbsup russia
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    VKS making a surprise appearance on some Jihadist's interview! pwnd

    EDIT: I would also like to know more about what the news reporter is saying, can one of our Indian members translate?


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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:46 am

    Ivan the Colorado wrote:

    VKS making a surprise appearance on some Jihadist's interview! pwnd

    EDIT: I would also like to know more about what the news reporter is saying, can one of our Indian members translate?

    82mm mortar from Harakat position making the world a better place. Not VKS. But we appreciate the same. Also old footage. In arabic the guys were gloating about how they defeated this and that and they keep going. Needless to say, it's done.
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    Post  Guest Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:54 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Ivan the Colorado wrote:

    VKS making a surprise appearance on some Jihadist's interview! pwnd

    EDIT: I would also like to know more about what the news reporter is saying, can one of our Indian members translate?

    82mm mortar from Harakat position making the world a better place. Not VKS. But we appreciate the same. Also old footage. In arabic the guys were gloating about how they defeated this and that and they keep going. Needless to say, it's done.
    Thanks, must have resurfaced recently on social media. Didn't follow the Syrian conflict very closely before September of this year.
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    Post  Werewolf Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:56 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Ivan the Colorado wrote:

    VKS making a surprise appearance on some Jihadist's interview! pwnd

    EDIT: I would also like to know more about what the news reporter is saying, can one of our Indian members translate?

    82mm mortar from Harakat position making the world a better place. Not VKS. But we appreciate the same. Also old footage. In arabic the guys were gloating about how they defeated this and that and they keep going. Needless to say, it's done.

    You don't speak arabic or did i get a wrong impression?

    What languages do you speak?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:57 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Looks like Betab 500

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    here a view of all the bombs Russia using.

    https://www.rt.com/news/317662-russian-smart-bombs-syria/

    Beautiful bomb ,hezbolah.. have to be having a lot of Fun with Russian new weapons.. Laughing

    That's not a missile, it's either a LG artillery round (which clearly looked like it) or it's SyAAF/RuAF doing the striking. Given that there was a secondary deton, while the missile got inside the building, then it can be a BetaB 500. But it can also just be ammo getting lit up.
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    Post  Vann7 Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:59 am


    No US airstrikes in Syria since Russia deployed S-400 systems Laughing

    S-400 range in Syria.. cover all Israel ,all Syria ,most of Jordan and more than half of Turkey
    all the way to the Capital. Smile

    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6 - Page 5 565976bdc46188e0318b462b

    Still Russia will need to capture more territory to really seal the borders of Syria..
    Because flying low can evade radars. Russia needs to control all the borders with turkey and Israel. to fully cover both.. High flying planes and low flying ones across all Syria. and Or the deployment of 3-4 awacs.. one around damascus.. another around Latakia and another near
    iraq border in eastern homs.. to fully See everything that move at any altitude over Syria.
    Also Electronic Warfare and Gps jammers too.. a plus.

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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:03 am

    Werewolf wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Ivan the Colorado wrote:

    VKS making a surprise appearance on some Jihadist's interview! pwnd

    EDIT: I would also like to know more about what the news reporter is saying, can one of our Indian members translate?

    82mm mortar from Harakat position making the world a better place. Not VKS. But we appreciate the same. Also old footage. In arabic the guys were gloating about how they defeated this and that and they keep going. Needless to say, it's done.

    You don't speak arabic or did i get a wrong impression?

    What languages do you speak?

    There's a translated version in Liveleak. Lemme find it. I speak all the 4 nasties. Italian, French, English, Serbo-Croat, understand enough Turkish and Farsi and off course Albanian, which is my mother tongue. I do not speak Arabic, bar the basic things (ironically learned through the Arab Spring).

    Also this is "old" in the sense it is 10 days? old.


    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8ed_1447868711

    This is the short version, but there's also a longer 40 second version.

    Also, 122mm on Kuweires at the beggining of the assault to clear the Shayk ahmad route. ISIS no more.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=014_1448479647

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    Post  Werewolf Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:57 am

    I've encountered quite a view alabano/croati/serbs that speak to many languages to comprehent why and from where.

    Know a greek at work he speaks 7 languages. Fluent in arabic, turkish, good in russian, greek of course, not bad in romanian and forgot another one.

    From where do you know those languages and why?
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:01 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    No US airstrikes in Syria since Russia deployed S-400 systems  Laughing

    S-400 range in Syria.. cover all Israel ,all Syria ,most of Jordan and more than half of Turkey
    all the way to the Capital. Smile

    Still Russia will need to capture more territory to really seal the borders of Syria..
    Because flying low can evade radars. Russia needs to control all the borders with turkey and Israel. to fully cover both.. High flying planes and low flying ones across all Syria. and Or the deployment of 3-4 awacs.. one around damascus.. another around Latakia and another near
    iraq border in eastern homs.. to fully See everything that move at any altitude over Syria.
    Also Electronic Warfare and Gps jammers too.. a plus.

    It must be highly likely that as the SAA moves north and east that short and medium range SAMs will move with them. The unarguable reasoning being that they will be needed to fill in the gaps in coverage due to geography, range and time delay given the position of the S-400.

    IMHO this is the biggest impact of the shootdown. A NATO country gave Russia an open door to upgrade the air defences of Syria. No wonder US/NATO flights have reduced, they must be hopping mad at CENTCOM.

    Incidentally, did anyone else spot the very careful wording by Moscow that the actual arrival of more fighters was dependent on what happens now, not they are going 'today'? The good old 'make the threat but save resources by not actually doing it' ploy.

    The British seem to have achieved the same by accident with the timing of the attack Syria vote. Get some 'kudos' for deciding to attack ISIS in Syria but not actually be able to as they can't safely overfly it.

    Also, the location of the US carrier task force sent quickly out of the East coast at the start of the week seems to be very quiet. Perhaps they decided that the Eastern Med was not the best place to be diplomatically ATM.

    Also, has anyone seen anything about the modus operandi of the French Navy planes? Are they flying with Russian or US targeting data? Are they flying less like the US/NATO?
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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:07 pm

    Bye bye Turkey.

    https://www.rt.com/news/323825-us-turkey-syrian-border/

    US urges Turkey to close off its Syrian border to ISIS - media

    Washington is urging Ankara to seal off a 100-kilometer stretch of borderline with Syria currently used by Islamic State for transportation of fighters and supplies into the Syrian war zone. The Turkish Army would need an estimated 30,000 personnel to do this.

    The Obama administration is urging Turkey to ensure Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) in Syria receives no supplies through the Turkish border, the Wall Street Journal reports, citing sources in Washington. The request involves sealing off part of the frontier between the western Turkish town of Kilis and Jarabulus in eastern Syrian.
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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:10 pm

    The topic about Russian Su-24 has long been diluted so I decided to put it here

    https://www.rt.com/in-motion/323672-funeral-russian-marine-su/

    Funeral held for Russian Marine who died rescuing Su-24 pilot

    Hundreds came to pay their respects at the funeral of Alexander Pozynich, the Russian soldier who died attempting to rescue the crew of the Su-24 downed in Syria. The ceremony was held on Friday in the Rostov Region in the south of Russia.

    Link of the video: https://youtu.be/GuAESrEfqOc

    Another video clip from RT, about Russian AA systems in Syria: https://www.facebook.com/Rogozhin.142/videos/1505275239801628/
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:16 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:Bye bye Turkey.

    https://www.rt.com/news/323825-us-turkey-syrian-border/

    US urges Turkey to close off its Syrian border to ISIS - media

    Washington is urging Ankara to seal off a 100-kilometer stretch of borderline with Syria currently used by Islamic State for transportation of fighters and supplies into the Syrian war zone. The Turkish Army would need an estimated 30,000 personnel to do this.

    The Obama administration is urging Turkey to ensure Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) in Syria receives no supplies through the Turkish border, the Wall Street Journal reports, citing sources in Washington. The request involves sealing off part of the frontier between the western Turkish town of Kilis and Jarabulus in eastern Syrian.
    Wow, if true I'll have to update the comment I just made about air defences being the biggest result.

    The Turks action has resulted in that US decision, the second most important event in keeping Assad in power, after the Russian intervention. The Turks must be feeling really proud about that Smile

    This is the best revenge that Moscow could have hoped for. Those Russians certainly didn't die in vain.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:26 pm

    Werewolf wrote:I've encountered quite a view alabano/croati/serbs that speak to many languages to comprehent why and from where.

    Know a greek at work he speaks 7 languages. Fluent in arabic, turkish, good in russian, greek of course, not bad in romanian and forgot another one.

    From where do you know those languages and why?

    Because being a memeber of the PPSH wasn't only about talking crap on stakhanovist Albanians producing more than a rigged VW engine. I'm from south Albania, if you don't know 3 languages you can't survive there (Albanian, Greek, Italian). Plus our main exit door for many years was only Yugoslavia (that's 4). Working in Brussels for almost 2 decades makes it 5 and almost sic (although I use Dutch as a last resort weapon),  And then you have English. Which was compulsory for outbound comissions (7). Turkish and Farsi it's more of a hobby. Although with the Iranians coming back in my old city it's becoming more than that. There's money to be made and Iranians are outstanding merchants. Plus I'm an Old World kind of guy, even though the current situation, for instance, there are many things I see as my one when some Alevi Ane gets down and prepars Gözleme or Byrek and sets up the ground floor tables. Part of my nieghbourhood were Bektashi. It's the Balkans man, it's all about being so different that you end up being the same people.

    You should come some times, see how beautiful it is, when we don't figth to death.
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:30 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:I speak all the 4 nasties. Italian, French, English, Serbo-Croat, understand enough Turkish and Farsi and off course Albanian, which is my mother tongue.

    Impressive.
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    Post  Werewolf Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:33 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

    Impressive.

    Indeed, my respect.

    I find it very hard to learn new languages. I kind of struggle to get my ass up to learn chinese.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:42 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

    Impressive.

    Indeed, my respect.

    I find it very hard to learn new languages. I kind of struggle to get my ass up to learn chinese.

    It's the future ;-)/
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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:11 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

    Impressive.

    Indeed, my respect.

    I find it very hard to learn new languages. I kind of struggle to get my ass up to learn chinese.

    Học tiếng Việt đê Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

    (try Vietnamese)

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    Post  Werewolf Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:55 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

    Impressive.

    Indeed, my respect.

    I find it very hard to learn new languages. I kind of struggle to get my ass up to learn chinese.

    Học tiếng Việt đê Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

    (try Vietnamese)

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