Right now, Russia hasn't made any real orders yet on any jet. Only 32 or so for Su-30sm. Why? Because they are waiting
Tu-22M hit the ground hard due to shit landing due to poor visibility. This can be fixed with flir for all planes.
GarryB wrote:And they still have the whole fleet streamlining to handle
Streamline?
Su-24s are supersonic...
This can be fixed with flir for all planes.
GarryB wrote:Su-24 is on it's way out because it's approaching it's expiration date, plain and simple
The Su-24 managed to do a better job than the F-22 in dealing with ISIS in Syria and it did so at a mere fraction of the operational and ordinance costs... I would say it was actually the way of the future.
The Su-34 is fixed wing so in the end should work out cheaper to operate and maintain but until they have a few more there is no urgent need to replace the Su-24 just yet.
The problem here is Russian Armed Forces are not designed to mainly fight ISIS or terrorists with few AA capability and zero airforce... so personally I believe it is OK for Su-24 and Su-25 to be retired soon and to ramp up Su-27/30/34/35/37/57 to full the gap.
miketheterrible wrote:I'm curious about the Su-34 vs the Su-30SM. Su-30SM cleary has better air superiority ability of Su-34 but it also has very good air to ground and anti ship capabilities. If these are the cases, why not just use Su-30SM instead and have NAPO also license build them?
GarryB wrote:This can be fixed with flir for all planes.
You might mean thermal imaging cameras.. and even they wont detect wind shear or other wind related conditions.
Radio beacon and auto landing systems are normally radar based which can be used in heavy rain and heavy snow situations at any temperature... unlike thermal systems.
Interesting that the new Su-57 camo make it look like a light coloured Su-57 with some sort of flying wing directly below it with a twin underslung engine design setup...
PapaDragon wrote:
Isos wrote:
You can see the sukhoi drone painted on the su-57 on the back under the star. Means they will be used by su-57 in the air.
JohninMK wrote:Isos wrote:
You can see the sukhoi drone painted on the su-57 on the back under the star. Means they will be used by su-57 in the air.
Well spotted. Does the State or Sukhoi own that aircraft?
If you mean a two-seater Su-57, this is not likely IMHO, they have simulators, AI support plus full plane recoverability after stall. Pilots that reach Su-57 will be only the best of the best, so not likely to need nursing onboard. Given the intellectual support / high level of automation of the plane, no hint was given of a two-seater version being necessary, as the rest of 5G planes and as is logical to get as much performance as possible for the aircraft.higurashihougi wrote:Sukhoi two-seater is a potential option for training, too. The teacher in one seat and the student in the other.
You can see the sukhoi drone painted on the su-57 on the back under the star. Means they will be used by su-57 in the air.
JohninMK wrote:Isos wrote:
You can see the sukhoi drone painted on the su-57 on the back under the star. Means they will be used by su-57 in the air.
Well spotted. Does the State or Sukhoi own that aircraft?
Isos wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/1088198362992726016
Okhotnik camouflage scheme on Su-57. Can someone post the pictures please.
This plane will for sure be used for test su-57/Okhotnik dual use.