Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #3

Soyuz-2.1b carrier rocket with Arktika-M satellite blasts off from Baikonur spaceport

First Arktika-M weather satellite launched from Baikonur successfully reaches orbit

MOSCOW, February 28. /TASS/. A Soyuz-2.1b carrier rocket with a Fregat booster and Arktika-M weather satellite blasted off from the Baikonur spaceport, according to a broadcast on the Roscosmos state space corporation’s website.

The first Arktika-M Arctic monitoring satellite launched from the Baikonur spaceport aboard a Soyuz-2.1b carrier rocket has been successfully put on the designated orbit by a Fregat booster. The Arktika-M spacecraft separated as scheduled at 12:14 Moscow Time and entered a high elliptical orbit with the apogee height of 37,400-39,800 km, perigee of 600-3,000 km and incline of 63.30 degrees, according to the statement.

The Arktika-M spacecraft is created on the basis of a unified platform Navigator of the Lavochkin Research and Production Association. It ensures operation of the satellite at all stages of its autonomous flight.

The minimum line up of the Arktika-M hydrometeorological space system should include two satellites. The devices will provide round-the-clock all-weather monitoring of the Earth's surface and the seas of the Arctic Ocean, as well as constant and reliable communication.

These satellites will be able to transmit overview images of the Earth’s northern polar region and the adjacent areas at least every 15-30 minutes.

Earlier, Roskosmos chief Dmitry Rogozin said that the state space corporation had agreed with Russia’s Federal Service for Hydrometeorology and Environmental Monitoring (Roshydromet) to explore the possibilities so that the first two Arktika-M satellites "should not become the sole space vehicles.".



https://tass.com/science/1261105

https://tass.ru/kosmos/10850401

MOSCOW, March 6. / TASS /. About 10 launches of the British communications satellites OneWeb on Soyuz rockets, the launch of the Nauka multifunctional laboratory module, the resumption of the lunar program and other launches are planned this year. This was announced on Saturday to TASS by the general director of Roscosmos Dmitry Rogozin.

"2021 - launch of MLM (multifunctional laboratory module" Science ") and the Node module to the ISS, launch of Luna-25 with the European Pilot-D, launch of 2 LV (carrier rockets) Angara, launch of Soyuz with space tourists , about 10 OneWeb launches each with 36 spacecraft (and this is not counting federal and other commercial launches, as well as launches on a manned program), "Rogozin said.

Next year, the head of Roscosmos reminded, the launch of the Russian-European ExoMars mission and the completion of the construction of the National Space Center, where 20,000 engineers will work, are expected.

In 2023, according to Rogozin, flight tests of the Angara will start from the launch pad at the Vostochny cosmodrome, the Soyuz-5 carrier rocket, the new manned spacecraft Orel, and it is also planned to put into operation the serial production of Angara missiles in Omsk. ...

"2024 - the launch of the NEM (scientific and power module) to the ISS, the launch of the Orel PPTK (promising manned transport vehicle) docked with the ISS, the beginning of hot tests of new methane engines at KBKhA, the launch of the orbital Luna-26," Rogozin added ...

Further exploration of the Moon will continue with the aid of the Luna-27 heavy lander. Its launch is scheduled for 2025. In the same year, the ship "Eagle" will fly with a crew for the first time.

"And this is in a large cage, to which should be added the deployment of work on a super-heavy rocket, the start of flight tests of the Sarmat heavy intercontinental ballistic missile and the deployment of its combat infrastructure, the launch of the Sphere program, the start of flight tests of the Amur launch vehicle with a reusable reusable stage," tests of hydrogen engines, "Rogozin said.

Already in 2028, Roskosmos plans to send astronauts to fly around the Moon. Scientific tasks include launching a mission to Venus in 2029, as well as launching Spectr-UV and Spectr-M.

Lots of promises by Rogozin, lets see how many of them materialize in the said time frames.

owais.usmani wrote:

Lots of promises by Rogozin, lets see how many of them materialize in the said time frames.

These are not "Promises from Rogozin", but quite specific tasks planned for implementation.

Scorpius wrote:

owais.usmani wrote:

Lots of promises by Rogozin, lets see how many of them materialize in the said time frames.

These are not "Promises from Rogozin", but quite specific tasks planned for implementation.

Rogozin was already given specific set of tasks for implementation years ago and all of it was 5 years away then just as it is 5 years away from now

GarryB wrote:He can't do any worse than Musk, who in 2016 promised launches to Mars in 2018 and ever two years after that till 2026 because of the suitable launch windows.

Then Russian government should fire Musk for failing to deliver on state ordes... Oh wait, Musk doesn't work for Russian government


Rogozin does

PapaDragon wrote:

Rogozin was already given specific set of tasks for implementation years ago and all of it was 5 years away then just as it is 5 years away from now

I do not know what exactly Rogozin did to you, but he is the only one in recent decades who is trying to clear up all the mountains of shit that have buried the space industry in Russia.
I just want to remind you that nowhere in the world have there been such people who would have the competence of Korolev, Glushko or Chelomey
So Rogozin is not the worst possible option. I would even call him the best administrator available in Russia today possible candidates for the post of head of Roscosmos.

If you do not agree with me, you can at any time name a real candidate who can be better than Rogozin now. If you can't do this , then all your remarks to Rogozin are a meaningless hait and should be ignored in the future.
Don't get me wrong - but I'm a proponent of constructive and informed criticism. There are too many brainless haters around.

Even if we apply a factor of 5 PPP adjustment (2.77 -> 13.85 billion dollars), Roscosmos does no less than NASA. Recall that the
US is outsourcing to Space-X and pals. So a factor of two real budget vs. the do-nothing ESA is quite something.

The trolls on this forum invoke launch accidents as proof of failure. This is not only certifiable retardation, it is also brazen
hypocrisy since by that metric Space-X, the ESA and NASA are all total failures.

Just for clarity, I have never seen the trolls show any comparative analysis of launch accident statistics to even try to
make a credible case. They just spout that accident = fail.

Russia, China ink memorandum on cooperation in creating lunar research station

https://tass.com/science/1263979

You mean like...

Reporter: What are your plans for the future of the country?
Answer: Putin has to go!
Reporter: And then?
Answer: Putin has to go!
Reporter: Do you plan a tax relief?
Answer: Putin has to go!

Kiko wrote:Russia, China ink memorandum on cooperation in creating lunar research station

https://tass.com/science/1263979

Number of people taking this seriously in Russia and the world combined is about the same as number of people on this forum doing the same

That number is even lower in China

Russia and China can't even put together an airplane but Rogozin expects people to believe that they will somehow build lunar station?

All this in a time when Roskosmos is canceling almost complete and long overdue projects so they could focus on trying to copy SpaceX?

How many missions beyond Earth's orbit has Russia sent over the past two decades? How many scientific missions have they managed to complete by themselves? Have they ever sent even a bacteria beyond Earth orbit? Forget human...

They have absolutely nothing to snow for and they think that it will be Chinese who will want to drag their dead weight to the Moon now when Chinese are finally rounding up their space program?

Remember your complaints about CR-929? Well that will be the good old days compared to this

Russia has even less to offer to China in space sector than it does to aircraft one and once they have that they will drop them like turd on a concrete

Chinese know that Roskosmos is ran by a shaved monkey who was stupid enough to refuse a practically free ride on Artemis program (something Chinese would kill for) and who would torch entire Russian space program over his butthurt ego and are in no hurry to spend any more time with them than absolutely necessary

Yenisei is not being cancelled.   The LNG fueled rocket, the Amur is a totally different project.   I doubt Rogozin ever stated that
Amur will replace the Yenisei.   But journalist swine are highly likely to put words in the mouths of Rogozin and others.   This
thread demonstrates this fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amur_(launch_vehicle)

https://www.space.com/russia-announces-reusable-rocket-amur

https://spacewatch.global/2020/10/russia-wants-super-heavy-launcher-based-on-amur/

Russia wants super-heavy launcher based on Amur

Luxembourg, 8 October 2020. – Russia has ambitions to develop a super-heavy launch vehicle, based on the Amur rocket, a Roscosmos official told the news agency Tass.
An upgraded reusable first stage of Russia’s advanced Amur methane-fueled rocket can be used to develop a super-heavy carrier rocket, Roscosmos Executive Director for Long-Term Programs and Science, Alexander Bloshenko, told Tass this week.

“Designers have already put forward proposals on using the methane-fueled rocket’s first stage to create a carrier with an increased lifting capacity. It will weigh over 440 tonnes and be able to deliver 17 tonnes of payload into low orbit. The same stage could potentially be used as a side core of a super-heavy rocket,” Bloshenko was quoted.

Russia’s State Space Corporation Roscosmos and the Progress Space Rocket Center signed a contract for the Amur-SPG space rocket center to design the new Amur methane-fueled rocket, Tass reported. The rocket will be launched from the Vostochny spaceport in the Russian Far East.

Nothing here about cancellation of the Yanisei. It sounds like it could be, but the current production philosophy in Russia is URMs, URMs and more URMs.
The Angara is the transition to such a paradigm. The Soyuz-5 will be deployed, then they can choose what get more to orbit. Any SHLV based on
the Amur is going to be substantially weaker than the Yanisei. Bloshenko's statement is basically rumination and not policy.

Big_Gazza wrote:.........Russia has launched a number of successful BEO missions (see below), though most have been joint missions with ESA
...

• Mars Express
  Venus Express
  Exo-mars TGO
  Spectk-RG
  

 

Every single one was ESA's, not most

All Russia did was to take someone else's payload, install it on their granddaddy's rocker, launch granddaddy's rocket and deliver someone elses's payload to granddaddy's old target zone

Big_Gazza wrote:...Chinese & Russian flags side by side on mission penants and PR releases is a powerful statement, even more so in the current period of ...

PR releases is all they will deliver same as with commercial aircraft

Big_Gazza wrote:...Chinese economic ascent and challenge to the US-led hegemonic world order....

Chinese want to be part of US world order not to challenge it

Anyone who thinks otherwise is buttfuck retarded

Big_Gazza wrote:...Russia is an invaluable partner to Chinese efforts to push back against stifling US hegemonical pressures. ....
.... finger in the eye to the accursed Muricanz...

Thank you, Tzavo

Chairman Winnie the Pooh appreciates your efforts

Big_Gazza wrote:...The Chinese are not interested in riding on Artemis as they know the US only offered such in order to tie Russia down into a lunar program that the US controls.  

China has their man in the White House now and in 4-8 years when Joe smooths over the situation the Chinese will be hopping on that seat to Artemis while Russia will be left sucking it's own dick and making threats on Twitter about all the stuff they will do better than their waifu Musk 5 year from then

Magical 5 years, always 5 years...

PapaDragon wrote:

Big_Gazza wrote:.........Russia has launched a number of successful BEO missions (see below), though most have been joint missions with ESA
...

• Mars Express
  Venus Express
  Exo-mars TGO
  Spectk-RG
  

Every single one was ESA's, not most

Spektr RG is not ESA, but purely Russian space observatory operating 1.5 million km away from earth.
Yes, they did install eRossita equipment, but it is just a payload. Complete idea of the spacecraft, planning, implementation and etc. was Russian.
Also, they successfully implemented Spektr-R mission recently.

PapaDragon wrote:
All Russia did was to take someone else's payload, install it on their granddaddy's rocker, launch granddaddy's rocket and deliver someone elses's payload to granddaddy's old target zone

launching spacecraft to the space is not the same thing like delivering payload via trucks. It is not just load-deliver-unload.

P.S. people from Balkan destroy every single forum

https://tass.ru/kosmos/10875887

MOSCOW, March 11. / TASS /. The flight prototype of the navigation system intended for the promising manned spacecraft Orel will be delivered to the Rocket and Space Corporation (RSC) Energia next year. This was reported to TASS by Roman Bessonov, head of the optical-physical research department of the Space Research Institute (IKI) of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

“Our task is to supply flight samples to Energia in 2022 so that they have a fully finished first flying machine in 2023,” Bessonov said.

According to the head of the department, tough tasks have been set to meet the deadlines.

The navigation system consists of four cameras and software. Two cameras are star sensors and determine the angular orientation in space, two more are directed either to the Earth or to the Moon (depending on the location of the ship) to measure coordinates. “It turns out that we measure three angles and three coordinates of a spacecraft in space using optical methods - no one has such a thing,” the scientist noted.

Now a sample of the navigation system has passed laboratory development tests, the next stage is bench testing.

The promising manned spacecraft Orel (formerly the Federation) is being created as part of the Russian lunar program. The first launch of the Eagle without astronauts on board is scheduled for December 15, 2023 from the Vostochny cosmodrome; during this flight, the spacecraft docking with the ISS is not envisaged. In 2024, Oryol will perform a second flight (also without astronauts), followed by docking with the station. In 2028, he should make a manned flight around the moon.

American astronauts to again use Russian Soyuz rocket to reach ISS as NASA can’t rely on ‘unstable’ US tech – Moscow space chief
11 Mar, 2021

After the US bought a seat on a Russian spacecraft to send a NASA astronaut to the International Space Station, the chief of Russia's Space Agency Roscosmos Dmitry Rogozin claimed that American spaceflight is still “unstable.”

From 2011 to last year, the US relied on Russia's Soyuz launch system to send its astronauts to live on the ISS, with America not having its own capability. In May 2020, Crew Dragon, a reusable spacecraft made by Elon Musk's private company SpaceX, took two Americans to space for the first time on a US-made vehicle in nine years.

However, despite this progress, it appears that NASA will still need help from Moscow.

Revealed by Roscosmos on Wednesday, in late 2020 the Americans asked for a spot for astronaut Mark Vande Hei on Soyuz MS-18, due to go to the ISS on April 9. According to a press release, the request was made very late and interrupted the Russian flight program, but the company accepted it as a way to “confirm its commitment to joint agreements and the spirit of joint use of the International Space Station.”

“The tradition of international crews, which has existed for more than twenty years, will be continued again,” the statement said.

Before 2011, there was an agreement between Russia and the US to share seats on each other's spacecraft. Last year, NASA reported that it would be negotiating with Roscosmos to bring back this crossover system. However, according to Rogozin, this latest agreement isn't a swap-over.

“Flights to the ISS are unstable,” Rogozin wrote on Facebook. “There was an urgent need for them to find insurance and send their man on our ship, to make sure their segment on the space station isn't left unattended. The talk of swapping seats has nothing to do with this at all,” he clarified, noting that the agreement was made with Axiom Space, a NASA contractor and private space company which has plans to eventually sell human spaceflight experiences to tourists who want to visit the ISS.

“It's convenient for them, and we don't care. We'll invest the proceeds in new developments.”

In 2014, when he served as deputy prime minister, Rogozin famously joked that the US should use a trampoline to send its astronauts to space after sanctions that targeted the Russian space industry. In 2020, after the success of SpaceX, Musk quipped, “the trampoline is working!”

However, Musk was not to have the last laugh. Following the latest US request for a seat, Rogozin wrote on Facebook: “Apparently, the trampoline only works so-so.”

https://www.rt.com/russia/517842-usa-use-soyuz-sputnik/

He just can't keep his fat stupid mouth shut, can he?

Beggar bragging with pittance and last cold leftovers from someone else's party

Everyone knows he will soon be eating those words alongside big helping of shit but he just keeps on yapping like a retard

Maybe he practices for when he has to accuse Chinese of being backstabbing assholes when they jump on Artemis program and he is stuck with his flacid little dick demanding to be swallowed by his fat stupid piehole?

Big_Gazza wrote:

Ned86 wrote:
Spektr RG is not ESA, but purely Russian space observatory operating 1.5 million km away from earth.
Yes, they did install eRossita equipment, but it is just a payload. Complete idea of the spacecraft, planning, implementation and etc. was Russian.
Also, they successfully implemented Spektr-R mission recently.

Well said, and I'd also observe that Russia provided instruments on both the Venus Express (*1) and  Exo-Mars TGO (*2) missions, so again they are not just a "transport contractor" like some seem to insist.

(*1)
Ultraviolet and Infrared Atmospheric Spectrometer (SPICAV/SOIR) - JV with France & Belgium

(*2)
Atmospheric Chemistry Suite (ACS), a 3-channel IR spectrometer
Fine-Resolution Epithermal Neutron Detector (FREND), a hydrogen detector

For those that may want to know, Fourier transform spectrometers measuring in the IR bands are the primary tool to
determine the chemical composition of atmospheres.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_spectroscopy

This is no off the shelf ho-hum scientific tech. It is bleeding edge.

PapaDragon wrote:
He just can't keep his fat stupid mouth shut, can he?

And what can the Americans say? What, will they impose sanctions on Russian enterprises of the space industry or ban the launch of satellites on Russian rockets? Oh, wait - they've already done it. So don't give a fuck about the opinion of the Americans - Rogozin can joke as he pleases. There is no relationship that can be ruined.

PD is spreading the typical knee-jerk NATzO fanboi BS about how once some western partner has a finger in a Russian space project,
then that project is totally owned by the western partner. Because Russians are all mud hut dwelling primitives that couldn't wipe their
asses without western magical knowhow.

Yeah...