Arkanghelsk wrote:
No doubt they also saw on NEBO that Su57 in configuration is not visible on radar.
Same old dilemma. Would this mean that the radar is weak/bad, or the Su-57's VLO design is good
Arkanghelsk wrote:
No doubt they also saw on NEBO that Su57 in configuration is not visible on radar.
The latter picture has clear IR seeker.
Don't underestimate AIM-9X.
Americans were shocked with R-73 and AIM-9X development came as a result of that shock.
The X model is pretty good missile.
This is the reason why new RVV-MD development came to be.
New Russian SRAAM needs to be more compact to be internally carried and it needs new seeker to have better ECCM capabilities.
What Americans clearly ignored is Russian DIRCM capabilities.
They thought that since they have AIM-9X their F-35 does not have to be a outstanding dogfighting plane.
Thats where they are wrong and proof of that is each modern plane still has the good old cannon.
No doubt they also saw on NEBO that Su57 in configuration is not visible on radar.
Same old dilemma. Would this mean that the radar is weak/bad, or the Su-57's VLO design is good
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medo wrote:Are this two b/n 02 and 52 the third and the fourth Su-57 for 2021? So now RuAF have 5 serial Su-57 with b/n 01, 51, 52, 02 and 52?
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Like fighter jet origami.TMA1 wrote:Never seen such a dynamic array of lifting surfaces. It is so damn lovely. No other fifth gen compares.
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TMA1 wrote:Never seen such a dynamic array of lifting surfaces. It is so damn lovely. No other fifth gen compares.
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LMFS wrote:TMA1 wrote:Never seen such a dynamic array of lifting surfaces. It is so damn lovely. No other fifth gen compares.
It is so 4.5th gen isn't it...
Jokes apart, this is a genuine triplane configuration, tried and tested by Sukhoi for several decades. It is the most complex yet most capable configuration for maneuverability, lift optimization, trimming etc., of course more complex, heavy and expensive than the others. To me is a clear indication of the "no compromise" attitude of Sukhoi with the performance goals of the PAK-FA design, unlike the much simpler approach they show with the LTS, which does not have canards nor LEVCONS and does not even have proper h-stabs.
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gmsmith1985 wrote:I think you are correctmedo wrote:Are this two b/n 02 and 52 the third and the fourth Su-57 for 2021? So now RuAF have 5 serial Su-57 with b/n 01, 51, 52, 02 and 52?
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AMCXXL wrote:gmsmith1985 wrote:I think you are correctmedo wrote:Are this two b/n 02 and 52 the third and the fourth Su-57 for 2021? So now RuAF have 5 serial Su-57 with b/n 01, 51, 52, 02 and 52?
Why ?
The numbers could have been changed as they are not suitable for the air units that will receive them.
The red Nº02 appears to be the previous blue Nº52
Air Force units based in Lipetsk and Akhtubisnk , both use RED tail numbers.
The only planes that have been seen in transit to West through Novosibirsk are the red Nº02 and the red Nº52 which are n/s 52001 and 52002 respectively
In any case, we will have to wait for more information, it will not be surprising that one of the most modern prototypes is delivered as a plane for state tests to replace the one that crashed in December 2019
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Novosibirsk spotters captured two new fifth-generation Su-57 fighters, which made an intermediate landing at Novosibirsk Tolmachevo airport on February 3, 2022, while transferring to their bases in the European part of Russia. Judging by these photographs, two Yu.A. Gagarin (KnAAZ, a branch of PJSC "Company" Sukhoi "as part of the UAC) new Su-57 fighters have red tail numbers "02" and "52".
The Su-57 aircraft with tail number "02 red" has not been "lit up" before. This machine bears on board the emblem of the 929th State Flight Test Center named after V.P. Chkalov of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in Akhtubinsk (Astrakhan Region), and, apparently, is intended for this unit. Recall that the first serial Su-57 fighter (T-50S-2 aircraft, serial number 51002) produced by KnAAZ, actually received at the end of January 2021 by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, received tail number "01" (originally blue), and, according to known data, was also transferred to the 929th GLITs in Akhtubinsk.
The second Su-57 aircraft, now filmed in Novosibirsk, has tail number "52 red" and previously flashed in a KnAAZ promotional video, but with tail number "52" in blue. Interestingly, this aircraft in Novosibirsk carries the registration number RF-81775 on its keels. Previously, this registration number RF-81775 was briefly used during the deployment to Syria in early 2018 on the last, tenth flight prototype of the PAK FA - the T-50-11 aircraft with tail number "511".
It can be assumed that the new Su-57 with tail number "52 red" may enter the 4th Order of Lenin of the Red Banner Center for military testing and training of personnel of the VKS named after V.P. Chkalov of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation at the Lipetsk airfield.
As our blog has already reported, at the end of 2021, KnAAZ will thushanded over to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation two serial Su-57 fighters, which corresponded to the planned task of the plant. These two Su-57 aircraft transferred to the Russian Aerospace Forces, presumably, have serial numbers 52201 (T-50S-3) and 52202 (T-50S-4), and are the third and fourth production Su-57s built by KnAAZ.
Recall that in August 2018, at the International Military-Technical Forum "Army-2018", the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and PJSC "Company" Sukhoi "signed a contractfor the supply to the Armed Forces of the first two production fighters of the fifth generation Su-57 (in the guise of T-50S - T-50S-1 and T-50S-2 sides) with engines of the "first stage" ("product 117"). The terms of the contract were 2018-2020, with the delivery of one aircraft in 2019 and 2020. In June 2019, at the Army-2019 International Military-Technical Forum, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and PJSC Sukhoi Company signed a contract for the supply of a total of 76 serial fifth-generation Su-57 fighters to the Armed Forces (including the first two contracted in 2018 of the aircraft).
The first serial Su-57 aircraft (T-50S-1 aircraft, serial number 51001, tail number "01 blue"), built at KnAAZ, made its first flight in Komsomolsk-on-Amur in early December 2019 and was planned to be transferred to the Ministry of Defense On December 27, but on December 24, 2019, at the final stage of factory testing , it crashed as a result of an accident, due, presumably, to a failure in the aircraft control system.
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limb wrote:Yes, finally more than 1 serial Su-57!
Now that they're serial, does that mean that it's operating the R-77M, the R-37M and the ram jet powered R-77 derivative?
I heard that the byelka radar was planned to have up to 1800 T/R modules in serial aircraft. Is this possible?
Also can the Su-57 and Su-35 provide midvourse guidance to active radar missiles through readings of their IRST and L-bamd radars?
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limb wrote:Yes, finally more than 1 serial Su-57!
Now that they're serial, does that mean that it's operating the R-77M, the R-37M and the ram jet powered R-77 derivative?
I heard that the byelka radar was planned to have up to 1800 T/R modules in serial aircraft. Is this possible?
Also can the Su-57 and Su-35 provide midvourse guidance to active radar missiles through readings of their IRST and L-bamd radars?