Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #4

Shoigu explained the low death rate from coronavirus in the army

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that the mortality rate from coronavirus in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is 45 times lower than in the country. According to him, this is due to the fact that 95% of servicemen and personnel are vaccinated, RIA Novosti reports .

“The mortality rate is 45 times, times, not percent, times less than the all-Russian indicators. The occupancy of the bed capacity is three times less than last year, three times, "Shoigu said on the air of the Moscow. Kremlin. Putin ".

The Minister stressed that Ministry of Defense cannot be loyal to vaccination, citing as an example Russian warships of the far sea zone, which go to sea on combat duty.

“If someone infected suddenly appears there, do we need to return the ship? And who will take up combat duty, who will defend the country? The boat is leaving. These are all serious things, strategic nuclear forces. We have crews on alert 24 hours a day. And here we cannot allow even the slightest doubt that we are confidently managing this entire process. Therefore - to get vaccinated, "- said Shoigu.

A decree of the Chief State Sanitary Doctor of the Ministry of Defense of June 18 introduced mandatory vaccination of all categories of military personnel, workers involved in socially important facilities, as well as certain categories of federal civil servants.

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higurashihougi wrote:https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202110/1237118.shtml

Why China’s zero-COVID-19 policy deserves defending

By Eric Sommer

A number of leading corporate-controlled Western mass media are currently belittling and attacking China's zero-COVID-19 strategy as "authoritarian" and "non-viable." Headlines like this shriek; "How long can China's zero-COVID-19 policy last?," "China's COVID-19-Zero Strategy Risks Leaving It Isolated for Years," "China is policing speech that supports 'living with Covid'." Meanwhile, the COVID-19 death of Colin Powell (who infamously set the stage for the Iraq War with a vial of powder) reminds the world to be skeptical of propaganda aimed at targeted countries.

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The Chinese dug a hole for themselves and now they can't get out.

First they went all out in of a sense of panicky self-preservation and stuck to a policy of zero covid. After this scorched earth tactic they started weaponising Covid for domestic propaganda purposes (ie. blaming others for 'mismanagement' whilst CCP good)

Reality is that Covid is hardly a threat for anyone under 60 that isn't morbidly obese. The general Chinese population however thinks it's the new black plague - which makes it very hard for the CCP to backtrack on any of these policies. The psychological damage is immense.

Zhong Nanshan (the Chinese Fauci) recently said that China is looking to ditch the zero Covid strategy in 1 to 1,5 years but then this morning I read the opposite again.

They dug themselves a pit and now they can't get out. Maybe they are looking to go North Korea and can use killervirus as an excuse for it.

GarryB wrote:All your objections about the vaccine being some poison trojan horse to control population numbers don't apply in Russia because they use normal already proven vaccine technology... so he is right to encourage more Russians to get the Jabs.

Viral vectors are new technology too and only a stair above the mrna abominations.

'Traditional' Covid vaccines are on the basis of an inactivated virus (Valneva, Covaxxin, Sinopharm, Sinovac),virus like particles (Medicago) or on a protein base (Novovax)

franco wrote:Shoigu explained the low death rate from coronavirus in the army

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that the mortality rate from coronavirus in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is 45 times lower than in the country. According to him, this is due to the fact that 95% of servicemen and personnel are vaccinated, RIA Novosti reports .

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https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog/army/news/2021/11/07/16813717.shtml?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=nui

Shieeet young and fit men aren't dying from the rona.

Absolute shocker.

In the video below Dr. Vladimir Zelenko talks about the same issues, 80-90 percent miscarriage rate in the first trimester, myocarditis in young kids, excess deaths amongst demographics that are not at risk etc.

His conclusion: this only makes sense if you are looking at is as a human sacrifice.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/WsvhxBD4k1uZ/

https://www.rt.com/news/539734-new-zealand-vaccine-mandate-protest/

A massive crowd of protesters took to New Zealand’s national parliament to demand an end to government lockdowns and vaccine mandates, with scuffles reportedly breaking out between demonstrators and police, as well as journalists.

Some 3,000 people showed up in Wellington early on Tuesday to protest the government’s Covid-19 policies, local media reported, with the crowd starting its march from the capital’s Te Ngakau Civic Square before heading north to the Parliament building, commonly known as the Beehive for its shape.

kvs wrote:Whether Medicago's vaccine gets approved and available in Canada will be the final test for me as to the agenda.   It is a proper vaccine
which does not screw around with human cell genetic machinery and serves the actual purpose of a vaccine: to give the immune system
antigen targets.   It does not spew spike proteins into the the system like the mRNA concoctions.   It is also vastly better than the
adenovirus vector vaccines, which are safer than the mRNA poison but still screw around with things we do not understand.

You need to see this..

@KVS

Indian scientist explain the dangerous poison of pfizer and moderna and other western mRNA vaccines.

Spike Protein Goes to Nucleus and Impairs DNA Repair (In-Vitro Study)



it will be a matter of days ,the video will be taken down.. by the mafia behind this scam and the lying media . Their main tool to silence those reporting the truth , to save lives are censorship . but they will not win , and will have to hide either to avoid jail those directly involved in this crime . another good one.


sorry mr MODERATIOR Garryb you will not silence the truth ever... and you will have to apologize sooner or later to everyone in this forum for advertising and promoting this criminal vaccines of western corrupt pharma as "safe", when they are not.  you will have no excuse to say ,you did not knew.  Because you knew all this top scientist and REAL doctors findings  

and this is not a janitor garryb , or a doctor in psychology but an important doctor in the front line fighting covid and saving lives.

Dr. Peter McCullough Issues Emergency Warning: Vaccine Created Spike Protein is Deadly in the Human Body

https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=6185b407e19ed5372ded8319

last but not least.. Governor of the state of florida , got a victory in court ,stopping the killer mandatory vaccines order . and from his own mouth.. listen this @Garryb what the top executive
of Florida state , and the top surgeon in the state fighting covid..

Israel scientist studies shows , Natural immunity superior to vaccine immunity  



so why the world is being forced into this crap ? that does not work , now need "endless boosters"
for each new variant ,and have been proven are causing the mutations of the virus.. mRNA experiments making the pandemic much worse.

somewhere was told that most states in US in a lawsuit against president Joe Biden mandatory vaccinations  orders with this poisonous vaccines. So in case mr garryb does not get it ,, if this vaccines he loves ,are cancelled or pushed back ,by the doctors and scientist and governors in same country who created the vaccines , then it means the mRNA poison ,he defends blindly so much,
are not as safe as he claimed ,but actually dangerous, just like i told it , more than a year ago.
An apology will be welcome..  but i don't think he will have the courage to admit being wrong .

lastly a random comment.  @KVS

There are doctors saying this mRNA shots side effects are not as minor as people believe , all this heart attacks and heart injuries is causing , cause permanent damages in the heart ,even after they
"healed" , because of the scars in the heart does not repair itself  and so that people with side effects with this pfizer and moderna and J n J vaccines , not only will reduce the performance of people oxygen ,but cause 10 years less of life in the long term .  (last count number of serious side effects that required hospitalization,months ago more than half a million, now should be twice that if not more, serious side effects) . So the mortality rate of population will dramatically increase dramatically in the millions long term. I can't see how this criminals government in the west will be able to handle the civil unrest ,that this is going to cause ,world wide.  i can see many governments taken down . and another american revolution ,but also revolts in canada , uk ,australia and newzealand , this will totally destroy anglo pharma industry forever , from the world map. after this scam. where this anglo pharma vaccines were pushed on population as mandatory or even as voluntary too.. this will cause jail to thousands of politicians  ,doctors and scientist around the world.
and we will be celebrating this defeat of this evil for once.     @KVS..

BIG ONE!!!

watch this @KVS..
NEW international scientist and doctors conference , natural vs vaccine immmunity studies published,
scandalous revelations ,that we knew , but with the evidence released.

Doctors and Scientist vs Global COVID Tyranny: Highlights From Seven Hour Symposium



Dr. Peter McCullough and other top scientist and doctors speak out at the COVID-19 Florida Summit in Ocala Nov 6, 2021, “Our public health agencies have become part of the disease and the vaccines are now a menace on society. There shall be no childhood vaccination, complete recognition of natural immunity, and no impediments to medical treatment of COVID-19.“



This mRNA genetical experiments tyranny have its days counted.  it will get worse and worse for the western narrative by liberal pharma and mainstream media and politicians backing this ,to stop the truth.  Half of US military and half of united states , states opposing this vaccines mandates. There is major distrust ,in mRNA vaccines working and safety and is not just for constitutional issues.


https://www.infowars.com/posts/doctors-and-scientist-vs-global-covid-tyranny-highlights-from-seven-hour-symposium/

Welcome back from the Gulag Vann7!

Mir wrote:Welcome back from the Gulag Vann7!

thanks..

But maybe not for long ,after the censorship police shows again.
watch the last videos i posted scientist and doctors ,released a new report..
showing how dangerous are the mRNA experiments and how superior is natural immunity.

GarryB wrote:

Nope. Just biology.

And if they didn't get the vaccine and caught covid and both the mother died and the baby died... what then?

Yes of course let's inject pregnant mothers up til the point where 80-90 percent lose their babies in the first trimester

Because, you know, killervirus might kill the mother (0.01 percent IFR for 20-49 year old females). Those fatalities are obese immunocompromised people anyway in case you are now imagining a healthy young women perishing. Think stage 4 cancer patienttl that catches the bug. One for the rona, and curfew for the rest of you!

Seriously, I suggest you stop speaking in the name of biology. It's borderline offensive to connect this field of study with this nonsense

Californian Governor Gavin Newsom is missing in action for 12 days now. He had the booster shot 13 days ago and has been as sick as a dog ever since.

The rumors have started in fullest. This newspaper all edges he is suffering from a neurological disorder (Guillain Barre Syndrome) as a side effect. Or let's just call it a main effect because these shots are basically useless anyway.

I saw an Alex Jones fragment the other day wherein Jones (and whatever you think of him, he has pretty good sources when it comes to things like this) said that sources within the police force, Hollywood and the state government have told him Newsom is in his house in Sacramento and that he is not seeing anyone except medical professionals.

AJ also said that it could be part of a disinformation campaign as Newsom has apparently leaked false information to the press before.

https://www.ibtimes.sg/gavin-newsom-suffers-neurological-disorder-after-moderna-vaccine-booster-jab-report-stokes-61169

He even missed the COP26 which is of course a very big thing in his shithole state of Trannyfornia.

There is a sense of justice in this..

kvs wrote:I am sure they will come up with some cover story.  

They can't ignore this clown like the tens of thousands of "nobdies" so they will need to lie.

BTW, that concert "stampede" in Texas is a cover story.   There is plenty of video of people
having seizures without any crushing.   Being vaxxed was mandatory for admission to the concert.

I am not sure. I have my opinion on it but don't want to derail the thread. Let's just say that there was a shocking amount of occult and even satanic symbology at that concert. So it could be both.

A bigger problem will be all the famous young people that are now coming down with heart problems. If they continue with these booster shots this will only accelerate.

Even the MSM is now picking up on it. This article (in German) is basically about why so many amateur and professional football players are suddenly suffering from heart failure

https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/news/raetselhafte-herzerkrankungen-im-fussball-li.193554

Bayer's Stefan Oelrich a couple of days ago admitted on camera that the mRNA vaccines are indeed gene therapy and that without this pandemic 95 percent of the general population would have given them a hard NO, now however with the pandemic 'raging'...

Well you already know the story.

Conspiracy theory CONFIRMED. Should now be categorized as a conspiracy fact. I wonder what the next issue will be wherein people with common sense& critical thinking skills get vindicated

EDIT: these YT links never work.

Relevant part can be seen here. In English.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9jOt17LNjAU

By their last official statements ,shows They are losing their patience now !!!, means they
are showing frustration , which is good news , means their plans for world depopulation are not
not working as they expected..

Now Pfizer CEO is saying to a NATO think tank ,that (the former vicepresident of pfizer and those that don't vaccinate ,including doctors ) and all others that are telling to not vaccinate are "spreading disinformation" are criminals.!!!!    


Pfizer CEO calls people spreading vaccine ‘misinformation’ criminals

https://www.rt.com/news/539828-pfizer-ceo-anti-vaccine-criminals/

So lets see who are the ones spreading disinformation about vaccines.

1) Who are the ones that have lobbies , in all countries spreading disinformation about sputnik vaccine in all major media ?  this was revealed by Argentine and Mexican governments about pfizer.
the latest one hinted that pfizer was pressuring the vaccination of children even without studies or evidence to backup this, for profits and not for saving lives.

2) Who are the ones  forcing people to sign up a document ,that allows them to avoid responsibility in case their vaccine injure or kill people?   So governments force people first to vaccinate or die homeless in the streets without money , after mandatory in all business the vaccine.

3) who are the companies , who have been hiding information about vaccine deaths and vaccine injuries for a full year ?  They don't even have a direct form document to document people that die from their vaccines.    if this is not criminal , hiding important information , then what it is?

4) who are the companies that have been saying , "vaccinate to end the pandemic" , "vaccinate to avoid hospitalizations"  , then later after their vaccines failing , vaccinate to prevent death from covid, or vaccinate to avoid being infested..?  now all that turned to be lies.. no?
US pharma fake vaccines don't prevent covid , don't prevent hospitalizations , don't prevent transmission , don't prevent death from covid. it does not work at all.. in protecting or saving anyone. according to latest studies , reported by Florida state government and top doctor of the state.

5) And who are the ones ,who have been sending millions of contaminated shipments with graphene and other toxic metals ,like stainless steel ,and their cargo returned in the millions by Japan?

They are the ones criminals ,and you have now ,the capital of the vaccines , United States and Britain pharma , that their vaccines against covid sold most in the world , its own states and doctors  ,and politicians pushing back against this criminal genetical experiment on population.

In case people not paying attention...!!!!!


THe Governor of the state of Florida.. in US , governor DeSantis , in just one month ,his discourse , went from pfizer and moderna vaccines produce "very few" side effects , to their Vaccines don't work at all , and that natural immunity is way superior and that alternative medicine should be used instead without interference from federal agencies.       


if this is not a major rebellion and insurrection to US genetical experiments on depopulation, in United States ,then no idea what an insurrection is.. and on top of that american major courts , declaring Biden mandatory vaccinations illegal.     this are major game changing event , and is going to get worse for pfizer ,the more data and reports show up , and more doctors goes public denouncing this criminal vaccines in the open and speak.

United States is officially divided , and this is going to get uglier with time ,this fights for power ,
the next elections ,could trigger a war , since unlikely democrats and those complicit in this vaccination experiment genocide will give away voluntarily power .

the only question left.

When a major civil war will start in US ,to stop this criminal poisonous vaccines ?

when the internet is taken down by supposed putin's hackers.. The first thing that will go is all forms of communication by population..   So people living in US ,UK ,CANADA ,Australia and NEW Zealand ,
your internet will be taken down by your government and (later blamed in foreign nations), when a major civil war , and or coup start against those in power.[/u]

You can't be taken seriously Garryb..  because you contradict yourself.
you first claims western pharma is corrupt , but then advertise their vaccines as "safe"   , so again , your opinions are as good as dog shit .. if you totally contradict completely..

you even admit the west "only" wants to depopulate their enemies.. in a discussion around the safety of their western vaccines.. so how can you ever be taken seriously dude?  what you are doing is trolling and nothing else..   because if you say western pharma is corrupt.. then is corrupt and so their products , like vaccines cannot be trust blindly as you do. because so many doctors ,countries and states are exposing this vaccines as dangerous..

by the way , i don't care, if you want to drink poison or gasoline , i could care less ,what you do with your life dude.. that's your problem..

but don't come here to this topic to insult out intelligence , by saying that all the top doctors and top scientist opinions ,and about half of the states in the land of pfizer and moderna , that are opposing this vaccinations are idiots or stupid..   because they are not..

So unless you have evidence to backup your claims ,that this vaccines are "safe" and can be trusted , and that any information about them , being dangerous are wrong , then just refuse to even post in this thread ,  because your opinions are not facts garryb..  your opinions are only opinions.

Pfizer and moderna sources ,that backup this vaccines as "SAFE" ,are either people paid , by pfizer and moderna or that work at the company too..  or the corrupt government in place at washington dc.  or corrupt federal agencies like CDC and FDA .   means that if any "Evidence" that pfizer and moderna vaccines are "safe" is made by the same company former employees , so the entire thing is invalid ,because it does not comes from independent sources and so there is a clear conflict of interest.

so you are welcome to disagree , but be genuine and real and not fake ,you can't just post an opinion as if that was fact.. because is not .  Don't say the western pharma is corrupt as many noticed you told , and later claim that is safe to trust in their products ,because this is an insult to everyone intelligence..  

just because your vaccine shot did not injured you or kill you ,means nothing on the larger scale.
they are not designed to murder everyone 100% of people that takes them.. that will make it too obvious for everyone to see , is the vaccine what is killing them.. and not any virus..and so a revolution start. so is designed to fool everyone by mass murdering a lot of people in the hundreds of millions and more, and do it slowly , over long and medium term.  if they do it slowly , is more easier to hide the crime.

and you are do sponsoring garryb indirectly mass murdering on population , by promoting vaccines that are murdering people and evidence being released everyone.. this is simple logic..   if you promote a poison ,then you are promoting the killing of people. you can't get away with this .

if i promote something , that is killing people ,then is a promotion of murdering.. just because your intentions are not to harm anyone ,does not negate ,that the promotion is being done , on things many doctors and scientist i posted videos are saying this..

im not a doctor or scientist.. but i have been posting many many scientist and doctors ,including pfizer emplooyes and pfizer former vice president that are saying this covid vaccines studies ,have been done in very fraudulent way and are designed to kill many..

if a former vicepresident of Pfizer opinions ,does not matter to you ,  if current pfizer employees and doctors from US federal agencies doctors .. under Veritas report , does not matter to you at all, and the fact that the country that sells you vaccines, most doctors there are telling this vaccines are not safe, does not matter to you , then you are completely delusional dude and complete devoid of reality. and should not be even commenting on anything related with vaccines or safety.  you either show reports from your sources that contradict the ones posted here by us , but your opinions are not valid arguments against real scientist and real doctors that oppose this vaccines..

you simply try in fraudulent ways ,to discredit any information posted in this topic , by any doctor , by saying he is not a real doctor..   so no offense garryb ,but you constantly show to not have a genuine interest in a serious discussion in this forum on this pandemic , so better refrain from giving any opinion , unless you backup it with something much more substantial than your opinion.
otherwise you will be simply trolling dude..   and deserve to be ignored by everyone . so that adults ,people that really cares about making a difference ,can discuss seriously what is really happening in the world today.

so go ahead ,and debunk the state of florida governor and top surgeon doctor claims ,that israel new studies shows , natural immunity is superior to your sponsored vaccines immunity. this is clear promotion that this vaccines you support does not work at all ,and neither safe as you and corrupt pharma claims.

once more..  go ahead deny governor desantis of state of florida and his top surgeon doctor dealing with covid , clearly implying than this pfizer vaccines are not safe at all ,and that natural immunity is superior.



im not a doctor or scientist.. so my opinions alone on this subject ,that im not ranked to talk means nothing ,so this is why i post people that knows about the subject. and your are not a doctor or scientist garryb . so neither your opinions alone matter in any way, either post your sources , that contradict florida government claims american vaccines immunity ARE NOT BETTER ,than natural immunity . in other words ,they suck, and don't work at all , and means that your claims that this vaccines save lives and that "the benefits does outweight the risk" are not true at all ,but just bullshit lies. as many in this forum suspected from the very start. when pandemic started.

sundoesntrise wrote:The Chinese dug a hole for themselves and now they can't get out.

And inside that hole China is having a good positive economic growth while the pandemic are being kept under control.

Meanwhile the ones outside of the hole are like this https://fortune.com/2021/11/08/denmark-reintroduce-covid-restrictions-masks-health-passes/

From my humble point of view, what you named as "China's hole" provide good protection and is a good choice.