You can't be taken seriously Garryb.. because you contradict yourself.
You have to take me seriously Vann...
you first claims western pharma is corrupt , but then advertise their vaccines as "safe"
I understand you are not the sharpest pencil in the pencil case, but western pharma can at the same time be both corrupt and also able to make safe vaccines.
These two things are not contradictory.
so again , your opinions are as good as dog shit .. if you totally contradict completely..
Let me spell it out.... a contradiction is two things that cannot both be true.
It is raining and it is not raining is a contradiction. Both statements cannot be true at any given time.
Both use the word is, saying it is currently raining and it is currently not raining.
It is not raining and I am wet is not a contradiction. I might be swimming, or have just stepped out of a shower or bath.
It is not raining and I am wet from the rain currently falling down is a contradiction but only obviously because contained in those two statements are that it both is raining and that it isn't... which can't be the case.
you even admit the west "only" wants to depopulate their enemies..
Again... not reflecting well on your intellect... if the west wants to depopulate its enemies then it should be handing out vaccines for free to all its enemies... the Taliban, Iran, Cuba, Russia, etc etc.... and would not be using such things on its own territory.
what you are doing is trolling and nothing else.. because if you say western pharma is corrupt.. then is corrupt and so their products , like vaccines cannot be trust blindly as you do. because so many doctors ,countries and states are exposing this vaccines as dangerous..
I am trying to help you because you clearly lack the ability to reason and understand for yourself.
The company that makes Wheetbix is called Sanitarium... and it is a religious outfit that claims to be a religion and therefore does not pay tax... how corrupt is that? Totally corrupt obviously. Yet I buy their breakfast cereal and don't expect it to kill me any time soon.
They make more than any other cereal company makes with their product because they don't pay tax... does that mean they want to kill me?
A corrupt company will not remain a company very long if it kills its own customers... I can understand you claiming they want to kill the customers eating other brands of cereals... that would reduce the market for their competition, but trying to wipe out their own customer base is nonsense.
The west likely do want to depopulate the world... China, Africa, Russia... big rivals and small rivals... they are hardly going to start by killing their own populations.
by the way , i don't care, if you want to drink poison or gasoline , i could care less ,what you do with your life dude.. that's your problem..
Thank you for you permission, but my problem is reading the bullshit you are repeating clearly without even understanding what you are posting and thinking it is all evidence to support your psychosis...
but don't come here to this topic to insult out intelligence
You are doing that yourself.
by saying that all the top doctors and top scientist opinions ,and about half of the states in the land of pfizer and moderna , that are opposing this vaccinations are idiots or stupid.. because they are not..
All? If it was really all the top scientists and top doctors then why would hospitals and health professionals continue to administer these vaccines if they all think they are poison and have hidden millions of deaths as you suggest.
One or two examples exaggerated is like the anti Putin demonstrations in Russia... how many are being funded by anti vaxxers?
So unless you have evidence to backup your claims ,that this vaccines are "safe" and can be trusted , and that any information about them , being dangerous are wrong , then just refuse to even post in this thread , because your opinions are not facts garryb.. your opinions are only opinions.
I had both jabs of Pfizer and I am fine.... isn't that evidence. Would have preferred Sputnik V but was not an option... and by the way I have donated Plasma about 5 times since I was vaccinated including my yearly bloods checkup to make sure everything is OK and there have been no problems.
Pfizer and moderna sources ,that backup this vaccines as "SAFE" ,are either people paid , by pfizer and moderna or that work at the company too.. or the corrupt government in place at washington dc. or corrupt federal agencies like CDC and FDA .
Funny you mention that because I receive no funding from anyone and have not been paid to be here by any company or agency or government, but you remind me of a Lithuanian Blogger who claimed all sorts of symptoms from Sputnik V that she posted on both her Lithuanian and English speaking blogs. Later on on her Lithuanian blog she mentioned that she was in the placebo group that didn't actually get Sputnik V and so the symptoms were all in her head but she never made that correction on her English language blog.
People have all sorts of political and economic reasons to say the things they do and trust me... if I did have problems with Pfizer I would have no problem telling you all about them in great detail. To be honest the first dose I didn't realise I had been injected though he had to put a plaster on because there was a little bit of bleeding. A few hours later the place where I was jabbed hurt a little bit... like a light pinch. The second jab was just as painless... in the same shoulder... no bleeding this time and no after effects at all.
The stand down period for plasma donation was 12 hours and my next scheduled donation was four days after the jab and that went fine.
so you are welcome to disagree , but be genuine and real and not fake ,you can't just post an opinion as if that was fact.. because is not .
My actual experience of getting the vaccine is valid and relevant, I have no reason to fake anything.. I don't own any shares in Pfizer or any other big pharma company.
Don't say the western pharma is corrupt as many noticed you told , and later claim that is safe to trust in their products ,because this is an insult to everyone intelligence..
Well drop whatever device you are using to access the internet with because the modern desktop computer was largely developed in the corrupt evil west and the advertising and environment the internet has become is corrupting you as we speak... not to mention 4g and 5g microwave signals cooking your brain and giving you cancer.... strip off all your clothes and just walk out into nature away from the modern world because it is all corrupt and broken....give us two or three years to fix it and come back and test the waters....
just because your vaccine shot did not injured you or kill you ,means nothing on the larger scale.
Thank you for saying that.
Just because a vaccine injures or kills someone means nothing on the larger scale... you have to look at the bigger picture.... when 10 people have no effects and everyone else dies or is mortally wounded then don't get the jab.... but the opposite.... when 10 people get sick or even die from the vaccine but the millions of others who take it are fine then odds are pretty good that you should take it and you will be fine.
they are not designed to murder everyone 100% of people that takes them.. that will make it too obvious for everyone to see , is the vaccine what is killing them.. and not any virus..and so a revolution start. so is designed to fool everyone by mass murdering a lot of people in the hundreds of millions and more, and do it slowly , over long and medium term. if they do it slowly , is more easier to hide the crime.
Then why bother... their kill rate with Opioids in the US is much much higher than the vaccine... more people are dying from malpractise in the US than from the vaccines... sounds like a fucking useless method of getting the job done to me.
How do they engineer it to only kill some... and more importantly they should be making a vaccine that kills the young and strong because the old and weak are their main income stream... kill them off and they wont make nearly as much money as they do...
and you are do sponsoring garryb indirectly mass murdering on population , by promoting vaccines that are murdering people and evidence being released everyone.. this is simple logic.. if you promote a poison ,then you are promoting the killing of people. you can't get away with this .
But if what you are saying is true, that western pharma companies are killing westerners first then I am all for that... waiting for them to run out of money is waiting too long when they just print more... letting them kill their own seemingly at random as you suggest to avoid being noticed would be a terrible way to cull the population.
You want to start by getting rid of the useless
that don't do anything... middle management... hedge fund managers... the homeless... with a random application of the cull you would do more damage than good... especially when the illegal migrants coming in to the US are not getting vaccinated either... how long before they take over?
im not a doctor or scientist.. but i have been posting many many scientist and doctors ,including pfizer emplooyes and pfizer former vice president that are saying this covid vaccines studies ,have been done in very fraudulent way and are designed to kill many..
They say they are doctors and scientists... have you actually checked any of their credentials... even just one?
Vaccines were needed urgently... cutting corners is what the west first accused the Russians of with Sputnik V... when was the last time the west accused any country of bad behaviour they were not already guilty of themselves?
If they didn't have time to get it right.... how the **** did they have time to get it following their master plan of killing some but not all?
That sounds 100 times harder than just making a vaccine.
if a former vicepresident of Pfizer opinions ,does not matter to you , if current pfizer employees and doctors from US federal agencies doctors .. under Veritas report , does not matter to you at all, and the fact that the country that sells you vaccines, most doctors there are telling this vaccines are not safe, does not matter to you ,
I have no reason to believe them any more than I have reason to believe you... you haven't even had a jab so you are not one of us yet....
you simply try in fraudulent ways ,to discredit any information posted in this topic , by any doctor , by saying he is not a real doctor.. No No so no offense garryb ,but you constantly show to not have a genuine interest in a serious discussion in this forum on this pandemic , so better refrain from giving any opinion , unless you backup it with something much more substantial than your opinion.
Well obviously he must be a doctor if he says he is a doctor... why would he lie?
otherwise you will be simply trolling dude.. and deserve to be ignored by everyone . so that adults ,people that really cares about making a difference ,can discuss seriously what is really happening in the world today.
People want the truth... and of course 50 years ago when truth and justice were supposed to be the American way you might figure you could get it, but truth has never been very important for governments or companies or media who are supposed to be protecting your interests.
People want to know the vaccines are safe but no one can say that, because they aren't safe for everyone, while others think the virus is made up, well evidence seems to suggest otherwise.
I can't tell you getting vaccinated will save you and not harm you, but the anti vaxxers saying it is all a conspiracy and that the real threat is the vaccines is just plain stupid.
The problem with the planet today is that these days there is no honest debate and discussion... instead of fact finding and discussion of merits it becomes us against them and anything that supports your case you post and anything that does not support your side is suppressed or even denied... incredibly unhealthy and it leads to uninformed choices and bad decisions... you just need to look at US politics to see where that leads.
so go ahead ,and debunk the state of florida governor and top surgeon doctor claims ,that israel new studies shows , natural immunity is superior to your sponsored vaccines immunity. this is clear promotion that this vaccines you support does not work at all ,and neither safe as you and corrupt pharma claims.
That statement alone makes me feel comfortable with what I am saying and the choices I have made.
Vaccines create natural immunity and reinforce it... it is essentially training your natural immunity to fight something it otherwise has never likely come across before.
Could care less about what Israel or the Florida governor have to say either.
once more.. go ahead deny governor desantis of state of florida and his top surgeon doctor dealing with covid , clearly implying than this pfizer vaccines are not safe at all ,and that natural immunity is superior.
If they are not safe then I am dead am I?
I don't care what experience some foreign country has with the vaccine or the virus.... it simply is not relevant to me...
Why should I do what America is doing considering their death rates... if anything I should be demanding harsh lockdowns like China implemented...
im not a doctor or scientist.. so my opinions alone on this subject ,that im not ranked to talk means nothing ,so this is why i post people that knows about the subject.
YOu only post one side of the issue.... where are the videos that show the vaccines making a real difference and saving lives.... not reading those? Not Posting Those? Don't you think just posting shit from one side of an argument and only reading shit from one side of the argument just makes you a mouthpiece for the anti vaxxers and therefore not worth paying any attention to?
You have picked a side and are blindly posting their view and their evidence without being critical or thinking for yourself and totally ignoring any other view... that is why I don't look at what you post and don't agree with what you are saying.
im not a doctor or scientist.. so my opinions alone on this subject ,that im not ranked to talk means nothing ,so this is why i post people that knows about the subject. and your are not a doctor or scientist garryb . so neither your opinions alone matter in any way, either post your sources , that contradict florida government claims american vaccines immunity ARE NOT BETTER ,than natural immunity . in other words ,they suck, and don't work at all , and means that your claims that this vaccines save lives and that "the benefits does outweight the risk" are not true at all ,but just bullshit lies. as many in this forum suspected from the very start. when pandemic started.
I am not a doctor or a scientist either but if you use your brain for a second if natural immunity was all that was needed to stop this virus how the **** did it spread to every country on the planet... surely every ones natural immunity would have stopped it and no one would have died and there would be no lock downs and no deaths and no talk of a pandemic.
If you are right and this virus is BS and there is no pandemic and natural immunity is enough to protect from the virus then all we really had to so was lock down the oldies and the weak and let everyone else go about their business... but the obvious problem is that it actually does more than kill the old and the weak... lots of doctors and nurses have died from this virus who were not old or weak and as it develops the people it is able to kill seems to be changing... but hang on... some fag desantos says natural immunity will keep us all safe... what a
because I would bet money he is not a scientist or a doctor either.
Vann makes an excellent point. Pfizer and Moderna will not load every batch with the tracking nanotech that has been found in
some samples (nanoscale nanotube growing devices) and with additional mRNA filaments not coding for the spike protein.
No he doesn't... he has changed his bullshit story because it obviously does not fit the known facts.
They
have to cover their asses and we see that this trick is effective since experts like in the video I posted start dismissing "claims"
because they did not find the additional content in their samples.
They make thousands of different drugs that are sold world wide... if they wanted to kill people then they could do it easily without putting it into a vaccine. They could put it in heart medicine or health supplements.... they could put it in bread or the water.
It is too much a violation of their safe space
world view that Big Pharma is engaging in a Nuremberg war crime level mass experiment. The same Big Pharma that has been
pushing symptom treatments instead of cures for decades. They really care about your health and the are really, really afraid
of the rotten politicians and bureaucrats (FDA, CDC). Not.
So now you contradict yourself.... are they trying to murder us all or just make us sick and get addicted to their snake oil as a solution because both does not make sense.
Also with the hypochondriacs of the world why would they need to create new things that require medication...
YT video by Dr. John Campbell (who for many average Joe's has been the go to guy).
Glenn Campbell was a much better singer.
In this video John talks about the Pfizer whistle-blower, the falsification of their data in the (incomplete and rushed) trial phase (published in the BMJ medical journal) and the possible consequences of this.
I think we need to call this YUGE.
So lets assume this is true... what sort of tin hat nut case are you that equates rushed and incomplete trials with intentions to plant the seeds for a cull of the human population of the world as part of a big social engineering conspiracy?
And if it is true... are you actually surprised... western companies were put under enormous pressure by their governments to come up with vaccines.... made worse by the head start existing work done in Russia gave the Russian companies they were competing against... it is still not evidence their vaccines were designed to kill.... in fact it suggests that that could not possibly be the case because if they didn't have time to make sure it actually worked how much extra time could they spend to make it do the other unproven nefarious things you nutters claim it is supposed to be doing secretly in the background?
You went from this:
I don't give a **** about the numbers where you are because they are meaningless to me and I am not a pregnant female either so I could care less about that issue too.
To this.
There are lots of idiots around who care about their rights more than their social responsibilities and I have no problem with them not getting vaccinated, but for them to encourage others and influence their choices is despicable... and I am sure in the end they will claim that no one really knew for sure so their guilt is only minor.
No further comments.
I still don't care about numbers where you are but fuckwits posting anti vaxxeer shit online make inbreds here think you guys make sense, which delays vaccinations and delays the opening of the borders once we have enough people vaccinated.
You want to be a lemming and refuse to get vaccinated then that is up to you... your choice and your consequences.... but when you spew the anti vaxxer shit all over the internet and convince otherwise normal people to make the same mistake you are making then it does become my business.
The Pfizer vaccine had a higher severe response
than the "placebo" group. Now ask yourself why would the placebo group have any adverse reactions at all. They were injected with
something when they should have been left alone. Why is injecting them with something needed at all? And what were they injected with?
The evidence points to health damaging crap called a "placebo".
Placebos are necessary to out the
. The example I give above of a Lithuainian blogger who claimed health problems after a jab in a test group for Sputnik V who later found out she was in the Placebo group is exactly why you have placebo groups.... if they don't get any injection then they know they are in the placebo group and their results will be effected... surprised you don't understand that fairly standard basic concept.
So these studies are as rotten as Pfizer and the clowns that pimp its poison.
If it was poison over 2 million New Zealanders would be dead, so your comment is demonstrably a lie.... but everyone should trust you because?
Because you are keeping an open mind?
Because you are posting examples and studies that show both sides and you are talking an honest look at the results to get a fair and balanced view?
Im starting to think , that Putin involvement in this global man made pandemic , more complicit and cooperative with it , that i was thinking. and that Putin is becoming part of the scam , on its own way.
Was wondering how long it would be before it was Putins fault... nuf said.
Was going to continue but the rest is just dribble.