Russian special military operation in Ukraine #3

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Russian paras in Keivsky oblast

They're making good progress

In fact they are being shot at by an BRM which was positioned as a monument in front of a residence. The video don't show all the perspective.

Oh boy, what the hell

Please god let this be real.

https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1498005681265336330

and news of these Negotiations ? or have they taken place at all yet?

Krepost wrote:Kharkov: Among the propaganda of the destroyed Russian Tigrs, there is also a burning Ukrainian BTR-4

Great post. Most of the time you don´t see how much pain such an ambush enflicts on the attacker.

Also weird. Most of these films/pics are made by civilians. Yesterday I saw a long video about a large column of UkroNazi vehicles, totally destroyed, still burning, with civilian vehicles driving trough the wreckage. Most of these civilians would end as "collateral damage" in a NATO-style war.

The world economy is going to run out of lithium and Russian metals for microchips. Americans and Japanese will not have their Xbox and Playstation. And stupid Western hipsters and hippies won't have their iPhones.

Finty wrote:Regarding dead goat f*ckers...

The destruction of a convoy of Chechen special forces near Hostomel on Feb. 26 officially confirmed by the President's Office.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497771662615396354

And a specualtive thread regarding Russian strategy
https://twitter.com/delfoo/status/1497498201527521281

2/Here's where I will start from. The Russian armed forces have never attempted anything like this. This isn't about what kind of war they're fighting it's about what they're capable of mustering.

According to Dmitri Alperovitch
@DAlperovitch

That’s not accurate. And doesn’t explain why there is very little use of tactical bomber aviation, EW and even artillery

Maybe the real reason is the Russian military wanted this to fail from the outset because they don't agree with Putin's tarded aims?

A certain "pro-Russian" poster ("kvs"), who openly claimed here to be half-Ukrainian, really helped to spread this disinformation about Ukraine's true combat abilities.

Ukrainians are not really that great fighters, I know that, but as long as they get state-of-the-art weapons like the Javelin and Stinger missiles, among others, they cannot be taken lightly. Also, they know they have a rather solid backing from their long-lost Germanic brothers in the West.

Last but not least, they had eight years to prepare.

Finty wrote:Oh boy, what the hell

Please god let this be real.

https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1498005681265336330

Finty stop spewing bullshit. If you don't have anything worthwhile to post, just don't do it all. What are you, 13?

Finty wrote:Maybe the real reason is the Russian military wanted this to fail from the outset because they don't agree with Putin's tarded aims?

Maybe the real reason is they wanted to save as many Ukrainians as possible???

Ordinary people in Ukraine are not NAZIs despite brainwashing in Ukraine for 8 ongoing years...nationalits maybe but most are not NAZIs...BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER!

Look at all the destruction the democratic, free, liberal USA brought to Iraq. In Ukraine Russians are willing to sacrifice their life to protect brotherly ukrainian citizens. see the difference!

Finty wrote:Regarding dead goat f*ckers...

The destruction of a convoy of Chechen special forces near Hostomel on Feb. 26 officially confirmed by the President's Office.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497771662615396354

That's BS of course.
Yesterday they claimed to have killed this guy. Today it was confirmed he's fine and coming after Kiev officials.

The Chechen battalion has terrifying mental effect on Kiovans. I knew it would work. And not out of reason - these guys took a base next to Kiev within hours from their deployment.

Problems with the way you train coming home to roost when its time to fight?

For a military that understands how to use offensive support its Armoured forces don't seem to appreciate the need for dispersion.

This is now a high value target.

Not an isolated example at all.

https://twitter.com/EliLea1/status/1497369230588596227

Can the basement dwelling virgins here that suck off Putin so much defend these tactics? They don't seem great.

another video of Russian MRLS launch.

Uploaded to drive:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dYyKpAdq_C4YopTL7js6FafJ6c3Aqnqi?usp=sharing

file is called:

The work of Russian MLRS in Kakhovka

Azi wrote:

Finty wrote:Maybe the real reason is the Russian military wanted this to fail from the outset because they don't agree with Putin's tarded aims?

Maybe the real reason is they wanted to save as many Ukrainians as possible???

Ordinary people in Ukraine are not NAZIs despite brainwashing in Ukraine for 8 ongoing years...nationalits maybe but most are not NAZIs...BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER!

Look at all the destruction the democratic, free, liberal USA brought to Iraq. In Ukraine Russians are willing to sacrifice their life to protect brotherly ukrainian citizens. see the difference!

So that means you needlessly sacrifice the lives of your men when the Ukienians aren't returning the favor?.

If Putin truly thinks that then he is a fool.

caveat emptor wrote:

Finty wrote:Oh boy, what the hell

Please god let this be real.

https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1498005681265336330

Finty stop spewing bullshit. If you don't have anything worthwhile to post, just don't do it all. What are you, 13?

You're sounding like Mike now, snap out of it.

flamming_python wrote:

ucmvulcan wrote:So Facebook and Twitter are blocking Russian news sources.  The EU is blocking Sputnik and RT, that's always a sure sign that someone is making some serious shit up, and wants to prevent people from getting another spin on things.  Don't these people understand that this is the internet and you can't keep people from finding ways to access just about anything you want? I condemn the EU for this, and I just know Washington is going to try to start the same nuttery here.  Well, enough of the information and propaganda war, what is going on in the ground war?  I hear Marioupol is about to be liberated.  What is the situation around Kharkov, Chernigov, and Nikolayevsk?  

Kharkov - contested. Russian Spetsnaz is in town, and Russian forces have entered from 8-9 different directions. I don't think there is a huge rush to sweep it though. Lots of Ukrainian military in the city, a column of Russian Tigrs and light infantry vehicles was already destroyed. Absolute priority is to avoid any destruction or civilian casualties. Hence no artillery support. It's just infantry advances.
Apparently there is a considerable amount of local support in Kharkov for the Russian invasion, lots of people are waiting for the Russians to arrive and sweep out the Ukrainian hold-outs and nationalists garrisoned in the city.

Chernigov - held by Ukrainians, and surrounding villages have stopped Russian forces from passing through. There's one where a bunch of villagers stop a Russian T-90A column and tell them to turn around and leave. Which the Russian tankers do in the end. Then the villagers celebrate by shouting 'Glory to Ukraine!'. Another vid where villagers take over a Russian T-72B3, think it got abandoned. It's a mess. Chernigov is central Ukraine, it's more anti-Russian than the south and east provinces.

Nikoalev - held by Ukrainians but half-way to being encircled by now. There's a considerable amount of local defense, and civilians taking up arms against Russia. Best to avoid it.

The Azov must be executed en masse in the woods as the Chetniks did with the fascist Croats in the 90s. Let the pro-Russian civilians do it. Damn bastards.

Azi wrote:

Finty wrote:Maybe the real reason is the Russian military wanted this to fail from the outset because they don't agree with Putin's tarded aims?

Maybe the real reason is they wanted to save as many Ukrainians as possible???

Ordinary people in Ukraine are not NAZIs despite brainwashing in Ukraine for 8 ongoing years...nationalits maybe but most are not NAZIs...BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER!

Look at all the destruction the democratic, free, liberal USA brought to Iraq. In Ukraine Russians are willing to sacrifice their life to protect brotherly ukrainian citizens. see the difference!

Compare this to a hostage situation. You don´t burn down a bank because you desperately want to get those pesky 2 bank robbers, killing the 20 hostages. You give the hostage takers the chance to surrender. If they decline, then you send in a SWAT unit. Normaly these guys try to avoid harming the hostages even if this is risky.

This is my thought.
Nazi vermin are using proRussians and even more neutral "Ukrainians" as meat shields.

Why doesn't Russia send Kadyrov's gang to Lvov and say "missile the **** out of them" if the Nazis in the East/Central Ukraine don't let all the civilians out?

U probably can't reason with a Nazi over its own life. Would a Nazi happily trade its family's lives as well?
I suspect not.

Finty wrote:


Maybe the real reason is the Russian military wanted this to fail from the outset because they don't agree with Putin's tarded aims?

No.. and it was explained earlier..

because putin is a teddy bear polite moron ,and want to limit ukrainian army casualties , because he hope to convince them to join russia side.. so this is why russia is not even using 1%
of its airforce capabilities in ukraine.. aside of the show of force with hellicopters the first day..
when it comes combat jets and drones is missing its use. not a single su-34 video seen in ukraine.
so effectively putin's weakness is causing russian army lives.. if russia had very strong close air support to their convoys.. none of this ambush on their military had succeed.

flamming_python wrote:

Finty wrote:

Problems with the way you train coming home to roost when its time to fight?

For a military that understands how to use offensive support its Armoured forces don't seem to appreciate the need for dispersion.

This is now a high value target.

Not an isolated example at all.

https://twitter.com/EliLea1/status/1497369230588596227

Can the basement dwelling virgins here that suck off Putin so much defend these tactics? They don't seem great.

The Russians tend to know where the enemy arty is. They're also in a built up area and even the Ukrainian military will think about targeting them here.

So far I haven't seen any Russian columns taken out by artillery. Maybe 1. Otherwise the ones taken out were ambushed

VDV column from videos today was destroyed by MLRS apparently.

Arkanghelsk wrote:Nazis executed a poor guy,  these randoms have weapons

https://t.me/breakingmash/31891

Russia needs to stop these guys

Is these Zelenskys free guns?

Hole wrote:

Azi wrote:

Finty wrote:Maybe the real reason is the Russian military wanted this to fail from the outset because they don't agree with Putin's tarded aims?

Maybe the real reason is they wanted to save as many Ukrainians as possible???

Ordinary people in Ukraine are not NAZIs despite brainwashing in Ukraine for 8 ongoing years...nationalits maybe but most are not NAZIs...BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER!

Look at all the destruction the democratic, free, liberal USA brought to Iraq. In Ukraine Russians are willing to sacrifice their life to protect brotherly ukrainian citizens. see the difference!

Compare this to a hostage situation. You don´t burn down a bank because you desperately want to get those pesky 2 bank robbers, killing the 20 hostages. You give the hostage takers the chance to surrender. If they decline, then you send in a SWAT unit. Normaly these guys try to avoid harming the hostages even if this is risky.

Wrong example to use....

its more like this. You try to engage in a gentlemen's agreement, to avoid doing certain things. The other side goes "Naw F you bruh, we going to do whatever the f we want"

But you keep playing by these rules, all the while you're telling your friends "Look guys, I know we could make this much easier and spare you all but you see.....I need to make the guys who are going to kill all of you think, I want the best for them. So you all can't be too tough on them, only throw baby punches and when you die remember, they are your brothers...Oh right because I am to important. I cannot fight myself....sooooo have fun!"

#BREAKING: EU countries will provide #Ukraine with 'fighter jets' under Brussels funding, says
@JosepBorrellF
.

https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1498030112230592512

We can give them some of our Tornado GR4s... joke.

Borrell is crazy to think that they can supply Ukraine with combat aircraft, unless it's Su-25, Su-24, Su-27, Mig-29. And as far as I am aware not my EU countries have any of these aircraft. Maybe polish mig-29. Because u cant just hand over any aircraft and expect a pilot to be able to fly a F-16 for example. Not to mention do they have any airport in good condition to be able to fly the aircraft, and how will they get aircraft into Ukraine? They will be bombed by road, shipping them is a no go, and NATO won't let their pilots fly into Ukraine airspace with aircraft especially combat aircraft.

Updates

1) EU Intends to Supply to Ukraine Combat Aircraft as Part of Military Assistance - Borrell

2) Talks Between Kiev & Moscow Will Be Held on Monday Morning in Belarus' Gomel Region, Ukrainians Travel Through Poland For Security Reasons - Source

3) Three Bayraktar Drones Shot Down, Ukrainian S-300 Complex Destroyed During Sunday Ops: Russian MoD

Russia began a military operation to "demilitarise and denazify" Ukraine on Thursday after a formal request for assistance from the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics coping with unceasing Ukrainian attacks. On Friday, President Putin called on Ukraine's armed forces to rise up and seize power from the country's current authorities.
Three Turkish-sourced Ukrainian Bayraktar TB-2 strike drones were shot down in the suburbs of Chernigov, and an S-300 air defence complex was rendered inoperable in the area of the city of Kramatorsk during Russia's ongoing military operation in Ukraine, Defence Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said Sunday.
Six other air defence systems, including Buk M1 and Osa missile systems, as well as 56 radar stations, were also destroyed during Sunday's operations, Konashenkov said.
Some 1,067 objects of Ukrainian military infrastructure have been destroyed during the operation to date, including 254 tanks and other armoured vehicles, 31 grounded aircraft, 46 heavy multiple launch rocket artillery systems, and 103 artillery guns and mortars, the MoD spokesman said.
Russian troops have suffered casualties, including dead and wounded, Konashenkov said. These are "many times" below those of among Ukrainian nationalist formations, and those of the regular Ukrainian army, he said. The spokesman did not elaborate on specific casualty figures, however.
According to the MoD, Donetsk People's Republic forces have advanced six kilometers, freeing the settlements of Nizhneye, Granitnoe and Gnutovo, while Lugansk People's Republic forces pushed forward four kilometers with Russian fire support.