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    Post  Regular Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:12 pm

    Scorpius wrote:https://t.me/boris_rozhin/32342
    The moment of the fall of the rocket in Donetsk. Cameras at the entrance to the DNR Bank. There are women and children in the frame.

    That's terrible, I hope the kid escaped without injuries and the guys with injured legs survived. Just shows how deadly shrapnel can be.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:14 pm

    https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/43560

    Fucking BTR 4 working on guys BMP1, you can see their feet behind the BMP

    That is 30mm HE FRAG?


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    Post  Regular Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:15 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/intelslava/22333

    Chechens close to kiev

    Those ODON forces are built for urban combat

    Those St. George stripes make them look like they are wearing tracksuits.

    15km from Kiev is in range of their artillery, I hope they know what they are doing as they are very tightly packed. It looks they are securing surroundings, proper siege will commence soon.

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    Post  Lurk83 Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:32 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/intelslava/22333

    Chechens close to kiev

    Those ODON forces are built for urban combat

    Why do they look so much better equipped than the rest of the Russian troops we’ve seen with the possible exception of VDV at gostomel?
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    Post  Regular Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:34 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/43560

    Fucking BTR 4 working on guys, you can see their feet behind the BMP

    Wait a sec? Is it BMD? BTR 4 was using 30mm осколочно фугасный (OF) rounds, but still managed to shred BM(?) and by how they were aiming, it seems some rounds got under. ZTM-1 is either a very inaccurate cannon or they didn't zero it.

    Makes you wish that soldiers had heavier IFV's in service that can survive 30 mm AP fire from the front.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:35 pm

    They are urban storm troops, so they have bells and whistles

    But from what I've seen the regular infantry from motorized rifle battalions look decked out too

    Platoon commander has tablet strelets,

    Look at war gonzos vids he's with the russian motor rifle forces, and they have nice gear too

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    Post  d_taddei2 Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:37 pm

    Sujoy wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:1) India is considering taking up a Russian offer to buy its crude oil and other commodities at discounted prices with payment via a rupee-rouble transaction, two Indian officials said, amid tough Western sanctions on Russia over its invasion of Ukraine
    Good if this happens but I'm not sure if Rupee Rouble transactions can take place.

    Balance of trade has always been in Russia's favour YoY. So what will Russia do with billions of Indian Rupees.

    They have already been using this system of payment with S-400 deal I believe

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:39 pm

    Regular wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/43560

    Fucking BTR 4 working on guys, you can see their feet behind the BMP

    Wait a sec? Is it BMD? BTR 4 was using 30mm осколочно фугасный (OF) rounds, but still managed to shred BM(?) and by how they were aiming, it seems some rounds got under. ZTM-1 is either a very inaccurate cannon or they didn't zero it.

    Makes you wish that soldiers had heavier IFV's in service that can survive 30 mm AP fire from the front.  

    It's BMP 1 , the turret and hood give it away

    Yeah he aims low as the rounds almost bounce and ricochet off the ground

    It looked like the hull was penetrated , for the guys behind, it was a bad day for sure

    It's war

    Thank you for clarifying AP round, I only could find 3UOF8 which is HE FRAG seems like
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    Post  mavaff Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:40 pm

    The aftermath in Donetsk. So bad.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:42 pm

    https://t.me/intelslava/22336

    T72b3 working on buildings in volnovakha, those guys having a bad day too, enough to go around
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:48 pm

    Regular, you might be right it could be BMD 1 , i can't tell, honestly idk wtf it is, some say it looks like a BMP 0.5 , lol but probably militia

    But even an LAV would get wrecked by 30mm , or even .50


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    Post  Regular Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:53 pm

    Lurk83 wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/intelslava/22333

    Chechens close to kiev

    Those ODON forces are built for urban combat

    Why do they look so much better equipped than the rest of the Russian troops we’ve seen with the possible exception of VDV at gostomel?

    Looks can be deceiving, but they don't look better equipped than Razvedka guys of the Russian army, not to mention SSO with all the gucci gear and Gost 6 plates.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:55 pm

    Incoming today at Berdyansk port. Wrong colour for warships, maybe supplies?

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    Post  mavaff Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:00 pm

    Lurk83 wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/intelslava/22333

    Chechens close to kiev

    Those ODON forces are built for urban combat

    Why do they look so much better equipped than the rest of the Russian troops we’ve seen with the possible exception of VDV at gostomel?

    I have read around that Kadirov got a lot of financing from central government to enhance his army.

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    Post  Regular Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:05 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Regular, you might be right it could be BMD 1 , i can't tell, honestly idk wtf it is, some say it looks like a BMP 0.5 , lol but probably militia

    But even an LAV would get wrecked by 30mm , or even .50

    Or maybe you are right, it looks to wide than BMD, but I am no expert. Yes, LAV, Stryker, Boxer, M2 Bradley even with armor addons would be goners here. Only few IFVs claim to survive 30mm from the front - CV90 with applique armor and Lynx IFV. Ignore me here, I never seen HE rounds hit the vehicle before and I thought they have no penetration at all.
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    Post  Airbornewolf Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:08 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/43560

    Fucking BTR 4 working on guys BMP1, you can see their feet behind the BMP

    That is 30mm HE FRAG?

    Another deepfake in my opinion.

    Check how the shadows of the lampposts/electrical posts cast a shadow to the left.
    The BMP does not cast any shadow.

    From the angle the BTR is filming it should have seen an shadow clearly.
    But instead, the sun is hitting the BMP on the wrong side!?.
    It only casts an shadow under the BMP. not even on the troops behind it.

    kind of shit...when your PC can not render the shadows of dynamic objects isnt it?.

    Also, i recognise ARMA AI in here. How you order troops to "disembark" and they all bunch up on the rear of the vehicle.
    When they get out they take this idle standing stance. this just looks like it.
    Save the vid, and go frame by frame at full screen at the feet.

    So unless the Russians/another source confirm it with evidence, i call bullshit on this one.

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    Downright Pathetic.

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:12 pm

    Sujoy wrote:
    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:It the plant is mostly safe For Russia it would not be bad to have a second marine and energy gas turbine plants Ina friendly Novorussian state. Especially since they produce also the reduction gearboxes, for which  Zvezda in Saint Petersburg had several issues and delays.
    Russia at the moment does not produce the old
     Are you saying that reduction gearboxes are being designed in Novorussia?

    Re the turbines, NPO Saturn is designing turbines to replace the Ukranian ones but have they been fitted on any Russian ships yet?

    No, of course not.

    I just mentioned that the former responsibilties of zorya mashproekt were split between Zvezda (the company in Saint Petersburg, not the shipyard in the fat east) , which does the reduction gears, and Saturn which does the gas turbines.

    However I heard that the Zvezda had some issues with production rates.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:15 pm

    https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/43575

    How long does autoloader take usually? Here I counted 19 sec between first shot and second

    Not bad, he was also relocating positional for the second shot



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    Post  Regular Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:16 pm

    Airbornewolf wrote:
    So unless the Russians/another source confirm it with evidence, i call bullshit on this one.


    Downright Pathetic.

    Why would they depict this? This video is also cut, please see the left top corner and change of azimuth/turret direction. It's not continuous video as it is being presented.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:18 pm

    Airbornewolf wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/43560

    Fucking BTR 4 working on guys BMP1, you can see their feet behind the BMP

    That is 30mm HE FRAG?

    Another deepfake in my opinion.

    Check how the shadows of the lampposts/electrical posts cast a shadow to the left.
    The BMP does not cast any shadow.

    From the angle the BTR is filming it should have seen an shadow clearly.
    But instead, the sun is hitting the BMP on the wrong side!?.
    It only casts an shadow under the BMP. not even on the troops behind it.

    kind of shit...when your PC can not render the shadows of dynamic objects isnt it?.

    Also, i recognise ARMA AI in here. How you order troops to "disembark" and they all bunch up on the rear of the vehicle.
    When they get out they take this idle standing stance. this just looks like it.
    Save the vid, and go frame by frame at full screen at the feet.

    So unless the Russians/another source confirm it with evidence, i call bullshit on this one.

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    Downright Pathetic.

    I would like to believe it is fake,

    The footage looks good, but like you said those shadows might be questionable

    We'd have to see, anyway , it could be bad rendering of ARMA bullshit

    Hopefully it is so

    Looks real enough... gut wrenching, but fucking war is always
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    Post  Werewolf Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:19 pm

    Airbornewolf wrote:
    Another deepfake in my opinion.

    Check how the shadows of the lampposts/electrical posts cast a shadow to the left.
    The BMP does not cast any shadow.

    From the angle the BTR is filming it should have seen an shadow clearly.
    But instead, the sun is hitting the BMP on the wrong side!?.
    It only casts an shadow under the BMP. not even on the troops behind it.

    kind of shit...when your PC can not render the shadows of dynamic objects isnt it?.

    Also, i recognise ARMA AI in here. How you order troops to "disembark" and they all bunch up on the rear of the vehicle.
    When they get out they take this idle standing stance. this just looks like it.
    Save the vid, and go frame by frame at full screen at the feet.

    So unless the Russians/another source confirm it with evidence, i call bullshit on this one.

    Downright Pathetic.

    I am pretty sure they are real, also I don't know any Video Game that has damage modelling of burning entry holes and "popping" engine compartment doors. That is unfortunately nightmare for any receiving end what they have experienced. My question would be, why BMD-1?

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    Post  lyle6 Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:22 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/43575

    How long does autoloader take usually? Here I counted 19 sec between first shot and second

    Not bad, he was also relocating positional for the second shot

    Is he - angling? LMAO Razz
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    Post  Regular Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:25 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/43575

    How long does autoloader take usually? Here I counted 19 sec between first shot and second

    Not bad, he was also relocating positional for the second shot




    Roughly 7 seconds or so, it all depends on where the round is in the carousel, but more or less it's constant if ammo is not being reselected. Also, it's not a machine gun, gunners usually shoot after the command is given by TC and he has to confirm target and etc. Fire rates are not as important, choosing right target is.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:25 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    Airbornewolf wrote:
    Another deepfake in my opinion.

    Check how the shadows of the lampposts/electrical posts cast a shadow to the left.
    The BMP does not cast any shadow.

    From the angle the BTR is filming it should have seen an shadow clearly.
    But instead, the sun is hitting the BMP on the wrong side!?.
    It only casts an shadow under the BMP. not even on the troops behind it.

    kind of shit...when your PC can not render the shadows of dynamic objects isnt it?.

    Also, i recognise ARMA AI in here. How you order troops to "disembark" and they all bunch up on the rear of the vehicle.
    When they get out they take this idle standing stance. this just looks like it.
    Save the vid, and go frame by frame at full screen at the feet.

    So unless the Russians/another source confirm it with evidence, i call bullshit on this one.

    Downright Pathetic.

    I am pretty sure they are real, also I don't know any Video Game that has damage modelling of burning entry holes and "popping" engine compartment doors. That is unfortunately nightmare for any receiving end what they have experienced. My question would be, why BMD-1?

    So we confirm bmd 1??? Looked like bmp , but there is lot of space underneath hull

    Looks like militia DPRSVY detachments, the dismount should be covered , idk what gunner is doing there

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