Russian special military operation in Ukraine #6

Plenty of abondoned russian vehicles were "attacked" to make it look like it was a battle when it was just shooting at a parked vehicle.

Plenty of bmp and bdr were abondoned. And ukraine has also hundreds of bmp-1 which aren't really used by russian army. Russia uses mostly bmp-2. Bmp-1 are very rare and the one they use were modernized with a 30mm canon.

Bmp-1's canon isn't precise at all. I doubt they want to go at war with such vehicle.

Isos wrote:Plenty of abondoned russian vehicles were "attacked" to make it look like it was a battle when it was just shooting at a parked vehicle.

Plenty of bmp and bdr were abondoned. And ukraine has also hundreds of bmp-1 which aren't really used by russian army. Russia uses mostly bmp-2. Bmp-1 are very rare and the one they use were modernized with a 30mm canon.

Bmp-1's canon isn't precise at all. I doubt they want to go at war with such vehicle.

Well BTR 4 is shit vehicle, Iraq rejected it and chasis can't handle the weight. It's less armoured than BMP. The gun is not zeroed and is very inaccurate even with an external mount. Not a super weapon and makes very little difference.

Separatists use BMP-1 on quite a large scale, not to mention they captured plenty of trophy's.

Anyways, the battle continues, the Ukrainian army is refusing to relieve Azov and if rumors are true, Ukrainian military that is surrounded will be willing to lay down arms.

Isos wrote:Plenty of abondoned russian vehicles were "attacked" to make it look like it was a battle when it was just shooting at a parked vehicle.

Some of them are pretty funny.
For example, they pretend to carry intensive combat with armored vehicles using ... OG-7W. It is a 40 mm shrapnel round, dedicated to battle the enemy soldiers only, having no penetration capability other than really light brick walls.
But again, this propaganda machine is not directed at anyone who knows the shit ... but on the mass population that knows shit

Arkanghelsk wrote:

So we confirm bmd 1??? Looked like bmp , but there is lot of space underneath hull

Looks like militia DPRSVY detachments,  the dismount should be covered , idk what gunner is doing there

It's probably a BMP-1, because there are air vents visible on this screenshot Airborne took, while BMD-1 shouldn't have them. Anyways in the end it doesn't really matter, because BMP-1 or BMD-1 they are in very bad position against 30mm. There is also this little frame of an entry whole from 30mm round which gives me the impression they go through like through a slightly tougher car. The "popping" up engine compartment door also is evidence that they go through the frontal armor.



Also you can see the cable swinging from the pressure created from the 30mm canon.

The entry whole right after the engine compartment door popped up.
It's glowing because the fire inside the engine compartment.

Isos wrote:Plenty of abondoned russian vehicles were "attacked" to make it look like it was a battle when it was just shooting at a parked vehicle.

Plenty of bmp and bdr were abondoned. And ukraine has also hundreds of bmp-1 which aren't really used by russian army. Russia uses mostly bmp-2. Bmp-1 are very rare and the one they use were modernized with a 30mm canon.

Bmp-1's canon isn't precise at all. I doubt they want to go at war with such vehicle.

ISOS , the feet of the guys dismounting is seen under the vehicle to the rear..

So it does not look abandoned , just a case of catching DPR militia with their pants down

Some maps, found them on a Russian telegram channel so I think they have passed inspection

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Isos wrote:Plenty of abondoned russian vehicles were "attacked" to make it look like it was a battle when it was just shooting at a parked vehicle.

Plenty of bmp and bdr were abondoned. And ukraine has also hundreds of bmp-1 which aren't really used by russian army. Russia uses mostly bmp-2. Bmp-1 are very rare and the one they use were modernized with a 30mm canon.

Bmp-1's canon isn't precise at all. I doubt they want to go at war with such vehicle.

ISOS , the feet of the guys dismounting is seen under the vehicle to the rear..

So it does not look abandoned , just a case of catching DPR militia with their pants down

The BTR gunner also was purposfully aiming below the vehicle to kill the soldiers. So I am not convinced of you guys arguing it is inaccurate. Everyone knows the 30mm 2A42 or whatever they are using is shaking while firing and quite extensively, however he still saw them behind the vehicle and probably hit them. One was already killed next to the BMP-1.

Werewolf wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Isos wrote:Plenty of abondoned russian vehicles were "attacked" to make it look like it was a battle when it was just shooting at a parked vehicle.

Plenty of bmp and bdr were abondoned. And ukraine has also hundreds of bmp-1 which aren't really used by russian army. Russia uses mostly bmp-2. Bmp-1 are very rare and the one they use were modernized with a 30mm canon.

Bmp-1's canon isn't precise at all. I doubt they want to go at war with such vehicle.

ISOS , the feet of the guys dismounting is seen under the vehicle to the rear..

So it does not look abandoned , just a case of catching DPR militia with their pants down

The BTR gunner also was purposfully aiming below the vehicle to kill the soldiers. So I am not convinced of you guys arguing it is inaccurate. Everyone knows the 30mm 2A42 or whatever they are using is shaking while firing and quite extensively, however he still saw them behind the vehicle and probably hit them. One was already killed next to the BMP-1.

Yea he looked dead from before

Dima wrote: I would have liked to see, but which is not going to happen, is 50k-100k Indian troops being deployed in Ukraine as peacekeeping force to take up the job of sanitizing the liberated areas and to secure the place from neo nazi's.

 

India struggles to fight against China at their own border and they will send 50K-100K troops half way across the world.

You must be the forum's favourite ASSHOLE.

Losses of the Ukrainian side following the battles of March 13, 2022

We have completely redone the infographic of the losses of the Ukrainian side during the conflict.

Now irrecoverable and sanitary losses are taken into account separately, there are dynamics for the day, aviation and air defense systems are divided into categories. Losses are listedThe National Guard andState Border Services of Ukraine.

To date, in total, the security forces of Ukraine have lost more than 19 thousand people killed and seriously wounded. The total number of prisoners of war is about 1,000.

We know that these figures are not final: unfortunately, it is not possible to count the losses of nationalist battalions, the "International Corps" and territorial defense detachments.

But we are working on it.

Idk if this has been posted already but several sources claim that Russia has asked China to support them with military aid. Doubtful China will send more fuel to the fire.
China and the US will soon meet in Rome, Italy and will focus on the direct effect of Russias war against Ukraine on regional and global security.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/13/politics/jake-sullivan-meeting-chinese-counterpart-ukraine/index.html
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/14/us-official-russia-seeking-military-aid-from-china

China can only offer combat drones in large numbers, but then again training can take more than this conflict, not to mention deployment and etc. Most likely fake news used to make China publicly denounce this kind of support during the meeting. Old tactic.

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Between 01 Mar and today 13 Mar 2022, there have been at least 27 Italian Air Force flights between airports in Italy and Rzeszów-Jasionka Airport in Poland, the likely hub for military aid for Ukraine:

C-130J MM62177: 7
C-130J MM62178: 2
KC-767A MM62227: 18

Ispan wrote:Some maps, found them on a Russian telegram channel so I think they have passed inspection

If you read that guy on Twitter he is definitely pro West, so use the maps with a pinch of salt.

They are getting picked up all over the place, partly I think due to their 'official' look with all the unit details.

walle83 wrote:Idk if this has been posted already but several sources claim that Russia has asked China to support them with military aid. Doubtful China will send more fuel to the fire.
China and the US will soon meet in Rome, Italy and will focus on the direct effect of Russias war against Ukraine on regional and global security.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/13/politics/jake-sullivan-meeting-chinese-counterpart-ukraine/index.html
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/14/us-official-russia-seeking-military-aid-from-china

Obvious fake and psyops.

But I do want Russia to act at the earliest and get two things critical for respective services. Combat drones and emergency transfer of in-service ships/frigates.


In addition there is a need for conventional IRBMs. My belief is that there is still limited space for conventional blows (with cruise and ballistic missiles) before the murican alliance turns to employing nuclear stuffs, in which case Russia will retaliate in same coin with an eventual MAD.

China can provide IRBMs, but I would like Russia to get it either from Iran or DPRKorea, where by it can help both countries. Iran has beyond doubt shown the accuracy of their missiles and Korean system will be similar.
Need of the hour is alliances, which will put pressure on the opponents to disperse their assets to cater to various theaters.

walle83 wrote:Idk if this has been posted already but several sources claim that Russia has asked China to support them with military aid. Doubtful China will send more fuel to the fire.
China and the US will soon meet in Rome, Italy and will focus on the direct effect of Russias war against Ukraine on regional and global security.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/13/politics/jake-sullivan-meeting-chinese-counterpart-ukraine/index.html
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/14/us-official-russia-seeking-military-aid-from-china

Official Chinese line is that they know nuffin. Chinese FM is is Moscow this week to see Lavrov.

Regular wrote:Old tactic.

It's old, but beautiful in its simple effectiveness. Just throw random BS out there and voilá.

West: Russia begs China for help, say anonymous officials.
Experts, think tankers, media: Russia is in deep shit, Russia evil, China is evil, blah blah blah.
China: Nobody asked for anything.
Experts, think tankers, media: Haha, even China has ditched Russia, haha!

Etc.

You see the same with the "chemical weapons" BS they've brought up. Just out of the blue. Literally no indication or even far-fetched possibility, but once it's been uttered then it's a "thing".

I think this conflict might be the most one-sided propagandized one in history, by the way. I haven't seen a single correction in MSM of obvious false attributions, completely made-up Ukrainian stories etc. It's frightening.

Excellent news.

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The Russian MOD says that today DPR forces, supported by the Russian military, destroyed almost all of the Ukrainian positions in the suburbs of Mariupol, with Special Forces "eliminating the main neo-Nazi forces in residential areas along the perimeter of the city".

"To evacuate Mariupol residents, 4 convoys were formed with a total of 200 buses, 50 of which have already arrived in Mariupol. All Mariupol residents wishing to be evacuated will be taken to temporary accommodation centers."

"The successful operation to unblock the city made it possible to open humanitarian corridors for civilians to leave from 3 p.m. today and to begin the mass evacuation of the population, which had been held hostage by the neo-Nazis for a long time."

all that bullshit came from the US. Go figure Walle would be stupid enough to believe it.

China and Russia are laughing for sure. Even the Duran guys were shaking their head at that claim.

This is causing huge disruption in the EU, Germans have asked Poland to stop shipping trainloads west.

A useful number for Russia, if they are the right sort

lyle6 wrote:Other works by the same artist:
https://www.artstation.com/jeffbearholy

Very nice artwork. Being a history nut, the Tiger E road wheels are not very detailed although the hull etc is. Tiger B looks like it has Porsche wheels but if so the turret is wrong. Either way, great work!

Werewolf wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:
Another deepfake in my opinion.

Check how the shadows of the lampposts/electrical posts cast a shadow to the left.
The BMP does not cast any shadow.

From the angle the BTR is filming it should have seen an shadow clearly.
But instead, the sun is hitting the BMP on the wrong side!?.
It only casts an shadow under the BMP. not even on the troops behind it.

kind of shit...when your PC can not render the shadows of dynamic objects isnt it?.

Also, i recognise ARMA AI in here. How you order troops to "disembark" and they all bunch up on the rear of the vehicle.
When they get out they take this idle standing stance. this just looks like it.
Save the vid, and go frame by frame at full screen at the feet.

So unless the Russians/another source confirm it with evidence, i call bullshit on this one.

Downright Pathetic.

I am pretty sure they are real, also I don't know any Video Game that has damage modelling of burning entry holes and "popping" engine compartment doors. That is unfortunately nightmare for any receiving end what they have experienced. My question would be, why BMD-1?

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Perhaps its real, i just have reservations how some things appear to look in the vid.
they look wrong to me. But ill let it go after this post. i promise .

I also tried to look up the gunner view of the BTR 4 and an manual if they can indeed over-ride certain settings in the fire control station.

In 2 Demos online the BTR-4 shows an clear ammo counter and the sliders during testing in indonesia and Ukraine.
cant find the manual, so i can not be sure what the gauges exactly mean.
the text on the right side is the munition counter and selection anyway.

In the Ukraine footage they are all empty.

Couple of points to add here.

1) Just wondering if the Russian forces are using drones for urban areas and if not, why?
We have seen, how much commercial drones was used by the NATO jihadi's to direct their attack on the Syrian forces. The exact tactics, in every sphere, is being replicated in Ukraine as well.

The above ambushes in Mariupol definetely was aided by drones (or spotters from rooftops) which is helping them to position themselves in advantage and attack.
Making use of commercial drones to scan buildings and lanes before going in will definitely help.



2) The nazi jews intend of talks is just to waste time and drag things on. But Russia is still falling for it and going for talks.

Zelensky's need for direct meeting with Putin in Israel should never happen. We have already seen how desperate the entire western $cums and nazi joos are to see him eliminated.

Hope better sense prevail in Russia and understand that the nazi joo's effort to get Putin into direct talk in Israel (or Turkey) is to explore the possibility for his assassination with likely slow poisoning or anything like that. Hope nothing of that sort happen.
It would be good for Russians to understand that almost all their traitors and those destroyed their country through out the 90s were these nazi joo's.

JohninMK wrote:Incoming today at Berdyansk port. Wrong colour for warships, maybe supplies?



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GRIGOROVICH CLASS FFGH LOCATED

Imagery from the 130937Z Mar 22. 2 units located North of Snake Island with 2 x unknow vessels and a Ropucha I LST

A lot of the smaller ships have a black/white lower hull, makes ranging on the hull difficult. What is real and what is the other end, so to speak.

Much like the war between Armenia & Azerbaijan in 2020 in this war as well casualties on both sides is being caused almost entirely by heavy artillery and missiles and not that much by the vaunted Western ATGMs

Ukraine's arsenal of Tochka seems to be impressive. With S-400 covering most of the Ukranian airspace interesting that the Ukranians are still managing to hit Russian targets.